corryvreckan or supernova?

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Flying machine

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Thursday 17th June 2010
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What do you prefer? Why? I enjoyed the uigeadail and these two seem highly regarded - worth getting both or are they very different?

Slightly away from the topic title - have you tried Bruichladdich octomore - at 140ppm it's got to be interesting!

Edited by Flying machine on Thursday 17th June 21:59

Simpo Two

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267 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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So I deduce from www.bruichladdich.com/octomore_distillate.htm that '140ppm' means 140 parts per million of peat?

I'm thinking 'Growbag'...


Flying machine

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Thursday 17th June 2010
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Simpo Two said:
So I deduce from www.bruichladdich.com/octomore_distillate.htm that '140ppm' means 140 parts per million of peat?

I'm thinking 'Growbag'...
smile Peat (phenol measured from what I understand) the ardbegs are apparently 50-80ppm so I'm trying to imagine what this is like!

A911DOM

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237 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Lefty is the man to answer this as he has tried far more than I, but in my limited experience:

Corryvreckan: A true complex whisky, depth of flavour without setting your mouth alight. Strong, subtle and superb!

Supernova: (Ive tried a sample of the previous and have just tried the 2010 release). Its a big hit from the start. The peat is obviously bold, but so is the strength in the spirit. With over 100 PPM (peat) its my sort of whisky and is nothing short of a monster of a dram - BUT, its not as 'drinkable' as the Corry (which I reckon you could plough through in very short time!). The 2010 supernova is peppery hot and really requires you to have a strong palate to cope with the intensity - But it is without doubt a stonking whisky.

The Octomore: (Again I only have 1 of these) is an experience in a glass. Very heavy, thick with vegetal flavour and again I would say its an 'occasional drinker'. Its one to have for special occasions and yet again a spectacular whisky.

So, in summary - Daily drinker Corryvreckan all the way, its easy to live with but in a very sophisticated and satisfying way. The other two are big hitters and fantastic as a treat - But not going to be everyones cup-o-tea.

Buy all three and decide for yourself - thats the answer you really wanted, no? wink

Lefty 200 Drams

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Friday 18th June 2010
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Nice post Dom, I have nothing really to add smile

Completely agree that they are totally different beasts - Corryvreckan is my favourite Ardbeg by a fair stretch (but I love em all, well most of them).

You may want to try looking for some of the sold-out expressions, I'd particularly recommend the young range. Very Young is probably my favourite but they're all good.

Flying machine

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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Superb, nicely described there dom! I didn't realise that the supernova was such a heavily peated whisky. Yes, I think I'll go ahead and order at least 2 of the 3. I was just curious as to how different the 2 ardbegs may be - very by the sounds of it.
Lefty, the expressions sound like they're worth investigating from what you're saying - so I shall biggrin

I've noticed that 'master of malts' do a fair few of their whisky's as tasters and I may go for a few of those along with the couple of full size bottles that I know I'll like.

Lefty 200 Drams

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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The young range comprises:

Very Young
Still Young
Almost There
Renaissance

It's makes a fascinating whisky evening drinking all 4 side-by-side...

Corrvyreckan is the epitome of Islay whisky in my humble opinion. Yes, it's got the peat reek but also tastes of the sea - ever been on a fishing boat or had a driftwood barbie on the beach? That's what this whisky is to me - sea air, salt, oil, phenolic smoke but still with the trademark Ardbeg oak vanilla and citrus fruit. I've got a case of the stuff tucked away wink


Simpo Two

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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Flying machine said:
smile Peat (phenol measured from what I understand) the ardbegs are apparently 50-80ppm so I'm trying to imagine what this is like!
The chemical most associated with peat is humic acid (from which we get humus). But phenol and phenolics are pretty nasty and more associated with Jeyes Fluid than whisky!

Apologies for being boring but everything is just a load of assorted chemicals, even whisky smile

DangerousMike

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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jesus, phenol?! it's pretty nasty stuff and quite toxic also.

Flying machine

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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Simpo Two said:
Flying machine said:
smile Peat (phenol measured from what I understand) the ardbegs are apparently 50-80ppm so I'm trying to imagine what this is like!
The chemical most associated with peat is humic acid (from which we get humus). But phenol and phenolics are pretty nasty and more associated with Jeyes Fluid than whisky!

Apologies for being boring but everything is just a load of assorted chemicals, even whisky smile
Interesting stuff - humic acid eh? Makes sense I suppose given where it's come from! Whatever goes into them, I like it lick

Lefty 200 Drams

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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DangerousMike said:
jesus, phenol?! it's pretty nasty stuff and quite toxic also.
Yup. Now you see why 140ppm is considered a lot!

wink

DangerousMike

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194 months

Saturday 19th June 2010
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yeah...

well i'm off to do a shot of methyl iodide now.

Lefty 200 Drams

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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Well, you probably season your food with sodium chloride...

wink

DangerousMike

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Saturday 19th June 2010
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well yeah but i am also full of sodium chloride and need it to work.

mph1977

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170 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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DangerousMike said:
jesus, phenol?! it's pretty nasty stuff and quite toxic also.
phenols from the peat used in the malting process ...

if you want a whisky with few phenols Glen Ord is the way to go - just a shame that Diageo divert a lot of the not going into blends product to the SE Asia Market Singleton ( the EU Singleton is Dufftown iirc) however one can purchase Singleton of Glen Ord at the distillery

Stu R

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Sunday 20th June 2010
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Lefty 200 Drams said:
Well, you probably season your food with sodium chloride...

wink
As long as you don't wash it down with dihydrogen monoxide I wouldn't worry about it.