Is fruit a load of crap now?
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It’s all garbage. Even if I buy ‘The Best’ oranges or whatever they still taste like st. Bland / watery / tasteless. And an epidemic of short dates too from all major supermarkets.
I’m sure over population will be brought up etc but I don’t agree, it’s just utter crap where big farming is making as much as possible I assume under polytunnels as quick as possible and it’s junk
I’m sure over population will be brought up etc but I don’t agree, it’s just utter crap where big farming is making as much as possible I assume under polytunnels as quick as possible and it’s junk
CoolHands said:
I’m sure over population will be brought up etc but I don’t agree, it’s just utter crap where big farming is making as much as possible I assume under polytunnels as quick as possible and it’s junk
How else are they meant to cater to so many people who want all their food all year regardless of seasonality or the practicality of producing it?Mobile Chicane said:
You can still get great fruit. Just not from supermarkets.
You need to deal with the wholesalers.
Whilst that may be true. How does a couple manage to bit quality produce ?You need to deal with the wholesalers.
The supers are selling very poor quality these days, a lot
Of the “farm shops” are not any near as “artisan” or “”local “ as they pretend to be….
We’ve tried growing our own, but for just two of us , it’s either feast or famine .
We eat a lot of mushrooms peppers and onions , and it’s getting harder and harder to buy genuinly fresh decent quality produce .
Turn7 said:
Mobile Chicane said:
You can still get great fruit. Just not from supermarkets.
You need to deal with the wholesalers.
Whilst that may be true. How does a couple manage to bit quality produce ?You need to deal with the wholesalers.
The supers are selling very poor quality these days, a lot
Of the “farm shops” are not any near as “artisan” or “”local “ as they pretend to be….
We’ve tried growing our own, but for just two of us , it’s either feast or famine .
We eat a lot of mushrooms peppers and onions , and it’s getting harder and harder to buy genuinly fresh decent quality produce .
Also any local veg box suppliers? Riverford is (I think) all mouth and no trousers, expensive for what it is, but there are others.
The only time we can buy consistently good flavoured fruit is when we go to France. Apart from that, we forage quite a lot, so can get cobnuts and walnuts from Spetember/October and stuff like plums, damsons, apples, quince, blackberries, wild strawberries and mullberries from July/August.
Buy fruit thats in season.
Apples have been in the shed since last year.
Oranges will be much the same but in a fridge
Soft fruit will be from Egypt or further afield. Its just never as tasty as british for whatever reason.
At this time of year frozen or canned fruit is actually good as it was frozen or canned back in the summer so it is processed when its freshest.
The only fruit thats in season right now is Yorkshire Rhubarb. Bright red stalks with small leaves.
Apples have been in the shed since last year.
Oranges will be much the same but in a fridge
Soft fruit will be from Egypt or further afield. Its just never as tasty as british for whatever reason.
At this time of year frozen or canned fruit is actually good as it was frozen or canned back in the summer so it is processed when its freshest.
The only fruit thats in season right now is Yorkshire Rhubarb. Bright red stalks with small leaves.
We are very disconnected from seasonal and locally grown food these days. Shoppers expect every product to be available 52 weeks of the year and cheap.
Lots of fruit and veg comes from a long way away for significant periods of the year and is picked unripe and 'ripens' during an often long journey. Having been washed in 'stuff' to help survive the journey and/or help the ripening process. In addition the varieties grown are selected for consistency, heavy cropping and resistance to pest/disease (ie cheaper cost). Anyone who has grown their own food will note that those qualities come at the expense of taste.
We also used to shop via selecting from a box of loose fruit and using feel and smell to pick the ripened ones (smell and feel are related to taste). Generally, retailers don't like this approach because of cost and wastage associated with loose produce.
Lots of fruit and veg comes from a long way away for significant periods of the year and is picked unripe and 'ripens' during an often long journey. Having been washed in 'stuff' to help survive the journey and/or help the ripening process. In addition the varieties grown are selected for consistency, heavy cropping and resistance to pest/disease (ie cheaper cost). Anyone who has grown their own food will note that those qualities come at the expense of taste.
We also used to shop via selecting from a box of loose fruit and using feel and smell to pick the ripened ones (smell and feel are related to taste). Generally, retailers don't like this approach because of cost and wastage associated with loose produce.
Silvanus said:
Caddyshack said:
Maybe seek out farm shops as opposed to supermarkets.
Farm shop oranges won't really be any different to supermarket oranges, other than being more expensive. Good farm shops selling local produce are getting rarer. They grow a lot of their own produce although I expect not much fruit.
I know a lady who has a cool range of cars so asked her what she did - she is the largest grower of strawberries in the UK and has 600 employees....
Caddyshack said:
Silvanus said:
Caddyshack said:
Maybe seek out farm shops as opposed to supermarkets.
Farm shop oranges won't really be any different to supermarket oranges, other than being more expensive. Good farm shops selling local produce are getting rarer. They grow a lot of their own produce although I expect not much fruit.
I know a lady who has a cool range of cars so asked her what she did - she is the largest grower of strawberries in the UK and has 600 employees....
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