What bands 'should' have been bigger?

[entropy]

The Beta Band

Could never reach the heights of mass adulation set by their critical acclaim. I saw them play Northampton Roadmender and then days later announced they were splitting

[tuscaneer]

Gompo said:

While they were successful to a degree, I think Carter USM are overlooked or generally forgotten about. A brilliant debut album, some social commentary very much relevant today. Some great, original tunes too.

Notable mentions to Jesus Jones and EMF. JJ's Perverse album rarely talked about but some great electronic, borderline industrial rock tracks.

tuscaneer said:

i saw pitch shifter in liverpool planet x after they had released their first album... tellies on the stage showing scenes from a slaughterhouse and a 1980s drum machine...it stuck with me to this day... there were about 20 people in this little tiny basement and it still felt empty

great band though...

Pitch Shifter were great, Pitchshifter not so much.

Yes!!!!.. jesus jones debut album I still have on vinyl to this day... another band we supported back in the old days....

I wondered if anyone would get onto my pitch shifter/pitchshifter nuance

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tuscaneer said:

heisthegaffer said:

I met the drummer from DM in Our Price, Welwyn Garden City once.

christian eigner? fking incredible drummer... i often wonder how martin gore would have reacted had he had access to him earlier in his career...would it have shaped how he wrote songs in a different direction... i know he's not actually a proper member of the band and only really plays live drums on tour but their sound has definitely broadened since him and peter gordino on keyboards(another fantastic musician....his live reworkings of some of martin's solo songs are ace) joined in the late 90s

I share the same birthday as Christian. I disagree that he and Gordino have moved DM in a “better” direction. They’re ok but let’s be honest when Alan Wilder left, that was the day the music died. He was the driving, defining, musical force behind the band.

[tuscaneer]

wormus said:

tuscaneer said:

heisthegaffer said:

I met the drummer from DM in Our Price, Welwyn Garden City once.

christian eigner? fking incredible drummer... i often wonder how martin gore would have reacted had he had access to him earlier in his career...would it have shaped how he wrote songs in a different direction... i know he's not actually a proper member of the band and only really plays live drums on tour but their sound has definitely broadened since him and peter gordino on keyboards(another fantastic musician....his live reworkings of some of martin's solo songs are ace) joined in the late 90s

I share the same birthday as Christian. I disagree that he and Gordino have moved DM in a “better” direction. They’re ok but let’s be honest when Alan Wilder left, that was the day the music died. He was the driving, defining, musical force behind the band.

No youve misunderstood me pal... they have been acgreat addition and lit things up live.. as I said, the keyboard reworkings of gore's solo stuff are incredible....

But let's call a spade a spade...while I feel alan wilder contributed a lot sonically and to arrangements ( I am one who wishes he had never left and long for him to come back)... Depeche mode is and always has been (since Vince Clarke left) Martin gore's project.. i didn't like mode with vince... but him leaving as the driving force was the best thing that ever happened to that band. It allowed gore to take it in a darker route.. way better than anything that vince would have done...


Depeche mode is martin gore. Martin gore is Depeche mode.

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 18th August 19:45

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tuscaneer said:

Depeche mode is martin gore. Martin gore is Depeche mode.

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 18th August 19:45

I completely disagree: Martin’s songs, Alan’s music, Dave’s voice. That’s DM.

[tuscaneer]

wormus said:

tuscaneer said:

Depeche mode is martin gore. Martin gore is Depeche mode.

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 18th August 19:45

I completely disagree: Martin’s songs, Alan’s music, Dave’s voice. That’s DM.

I love Alan's involvement... i love dave ghans vocals..... but martin gore orchestrated the whole thing....

Proof that depeche mode are still great despite wilders departure is ultra snd every album since.....


I do agree they all work together magically but as we have seen with paper monsters and numerous recoli releases ghan and wilder are nothing without gore's incredible song writing...

[Iamnotkloot]

The slow readers club

‘You opened up my heart’ amongst many excellent tracks.

Thanks for the Leaves and Kerbdog recommendations! Some great tracks....

[tuscaneer]

Iamnotkloot said:

The slow readers club

‘You opened up my heart’ amongst many excellent tracks.

Thanks for the Leaves and Kerbdog recommendations! Some great tracks....

Ill check them out.. new to me... kerbdog are the bks hey!!??

[andySC]

wormus said:

tuscaneer said:

Depeche mode is martin gore. Martin gore is Depeche mode.

Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 18th August 19:45

I completely disagree: Martin’s songs, Alan’s music, Dave’s voice. That’s DM.

Add to that Anton’s visuals & vids.....erm, what about Fletch ?? ;-))

[tuscaneer]

andySC said:

Add to that Anton’s visuals & vids.....erm, what about Fletch ?? ;-))

you know what...corbijn was very much a part of the whole package much in the same way derek riggs and the album covers he painted were a big part of iron maiden's early success.... totally agree...

fletch i'm not so sure about

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Iamnotkloot said:

The slow readers club

‘You opened up my heart’ amongst many excellent tracks.

Thanks for the Leaves and Kerbdog recommendations! Some great tracks....

really like that slow readers club.... very rooted in new wave... in a good way!...

this track is superb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt20_t6moBg

[K12beano]

Paul Weler has .... well I suppose I would suggest an "interesting perspective" in this linked article on The Zombies ... I dunno, not sure I can get so excited, but maybe a thread contender?

[anonymous-user]

This could be “Who didn’t crack America?” Because if they didn’t they had the scope to be a lot bigger.
Thin Lizzy

[AdeTuono]

gazza285 said:

irocfan said:

I thought that that was Budgie - or was Budgie's mistake not taking I Surrender?

Budgie would not be a good fit, not really their style.

For long-time Budgie fans, the almost unrecognisable Burke Shelley. Spent many a happy hour following them to gigs in the mid-70's.

[irocfan]

hepy said:

marcosgt said:

hepy said:

The Real People - late 80's early 90's Liverpool band. Allegedly taught Noel Gallagher how to write songs.

"Heh, Noel, it's easy, listen to some 60s and 70s stuff and fit some new words around the tunes...."

M

Noel even based one track on a Gary Glitter song!

there's another interesting conversation I guess - does a vile/evil person deserve to have his (sadly it is mostly a he) music appreciated/enjoyed?

[Iamnotkloot]

tuscaneer said:

Iamnotkloot said:

The slow readers club

‘You opened up my heart’ amongst many excellent tracks.

Thanks for the Leaves and Kerbdog recommendations! Some great tracks....

really like that slow readers club.... very rooted in new wave... in a good way!...

this track is superb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt20_t6moBg

Yep, good song that.

Loving ‘Sally’ by Kerbdog - nice and fresh (even though it’s old, if you know what I mean).

Interesting thread and giving me some music I’ve not heard before.

[conkerman]

Catherine Wheel.

Seemed to have everything needed to make it big, but just never did.

Rob is now making Singer Porches now.

[Johnnytheboy]

heisthegaffer said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Kyuss - too niche I guess

Started listening to them today. Brilliant. I'm a massive fan of Down and I can hear similarities between them.

I'm sure you don't need it explaining, but they are effectively Queens of the Stone Age mark 1.

One of those 'album bands' if you know what I mean, and such an earthshaking guitar sound.

Try these two obscure tracks from a funny little EP that came out as they split and QOTSA formed. Absolute crackers, particularly the first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JK3E0m1eTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-B_1wqQNH0

[popeyewhite]

Johnnytheboy said:

heisthegaffer said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Kyuss - too niche I guess

Started listening to them today. Brilliant. I'm a massive fan of Down and I can hear similarities between them.

I'm sure you don't need it explaining, but they are effectively Queens of the Stone Age mark 1.

One of those 'album bands' if you know what I mean, and such an earthshaking guitar sound.

Try these two obscure tracks from a funny little EP that came out as they split and QOTSA formed. Absolute crackers, particularly the first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JK3E0m1eTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-B_1wqQNH0

Fatso Forgotso's good. Demon Cleaner is more their stoner-desert rock style I feel though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8Qqfu1pwQ

Parts of Kyuss now exist as Vista Chino.

[Gompo]

tuscaneer said:

Yes!!!!.. jesus jones debut album I still have on vinyl to this day... another band we supported back in the old days....

I wondered if anyone would get onto my pitch shifter/pitchshifter nuance

Worth giving the Perverse album by Jesus Jones a go if you never have. For me there's a handful of strand out tracks; but I've heard the full thing so many times I enjoy it all.

Jesus Jones - Tongue Tied

Jesus Jones - Your Crusade

Great album closer..:

Jesus Jones - Idiot Stare

It's very 90s in terms of a mixture of electronics with 'rock' guitars, but considering it was released early 1993 it's fairly original for its time; the Wikipedia entry suggests it's the first album recorded entirely on computer excluding the vocals.