The Beatles - "Now And Then"

The Beatles - "Now And Then"

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NelsonM3

1,689 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Stealthracer said:
Listened to it for the first time this morning, an a couple of times since and it is rowing on me. I would describe it as great, but not up to the standard of the original greats. The construction is good, especially the way they worked in the key changes, but of course the mot impressive thing about it is the technology that made it possible in the first place.

I agree that the Beatle split up at the right time. Sgt Pepper was their peak and they went downhill from there. The White Album was not just their worst album, but is in my top ten of the worst album from anybody, anywhere, ever. And Let It Be is little better.

The only problem with their splitting up is that it affected everyone else, With the Beatles gone there was nobody to complete with so they didn't bother, and pop (so-called) music went back to the same old crap it had been before the Beatles came along.
I know all music is subjective. But The White Album the worst? Come on! tongue out

Revolver, White Album and Abbey Road definitely in the top three for me. Sgt Pepper could have been great but it’s like they ran out of steam half way through, massively overrated.

Panamax

4,189 posts

36 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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"She came in through the bathroom window,
Protected by a silver spoon."

But I tell you what, she'd have jumped right back out that window if she'd heard this.

"Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer...."

520TORQUES

4,892 posts

17 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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I think the video for it is fab, i was always a bigger fan of George, he was such a nice guy and super cool too, so it was great to see him so prominent in this too.

If you didn't care about the Beatles i can see how it wouldn't grab you on it's own merits in this day and age, but it touches something nostalgic in my mind, I'm glad they made it.

Hopefully you enjoy the videos as much as i did.

The making of short film



The official video


Scotter

386 posts

97 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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520TORQUES said:
I think the video for it is fab, i was always a bigger fan of George, he was such a nice guy and super cool too, so it was great to see him so prominent in this too.

If you didn't care about the Beatles i can see how it wouldn't grab you on it's own merits in this day and age, but it touches something nostalgic in my mind, I'm glad they made it.

Hopefully you enjoy the videos as much as i did.

The making of short film



The official video

Some of the CGI is a bit ropey but the end when they all fade out is quite moving to this Beatles fan.
Also good to hear people have different opinions about their music,it talks to us in different ways I suppose.
I think the “new” song is rather lovely and a touching memory of John and George.

robsco

7,849 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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I think it’s a great song. It’s no A Day In The Life, but then could it ever be expected to be? Enjoy it for what it is.

ThePrisoner

1,057 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Scotter said:
Some of the CGI is a bit ropey but the end when they all fade out is quite moving to this Beatles fan.
Also good to hear people have different opinions about their music,it talks to us in different ways I suppose.
I think the “new” song is rather lovely and a touching memory of John and George.
Don't get me wrong. I was a big big fan back in the day and still am.

My parents used to get me a Beatles single every Christmas . My first was in 1963 ' She loves you ' I was 5 year old.

That treat ended in 1968 with ' Lady Madonna '.

My favourite was George , and in 1970 I got the ATMP album for Christmas . I remember my father moaning how expensive it was at the time.

I have to say though , they should have just left it with the roof top gig. The last but one track on Abbey Rd was the pointer to things to come and they knew they were finished .


Elderly

3,502 posts

240 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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robsa said:
Technologically impressive, …….
Yep - but the ‘performances’ are too perfect.

Scotter

386 posts

97 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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ThePrisoner said:
Don't get me wrong. I was a big big fan back in the day and still am.

My parents used to get me a Beatles single every Christmas . My first was in 1963 ' She loves you ' I was 5 year old.

That treat ended in 1968 with ' Lady Madonna '.

My favourite was George , and in 1970 I got the ATMP album for Christmas . I remember my father moaning how expensive it was at the time.

I have to say though , they should have just left it with the roof top gig. The last but one track on Abbey Rd was the pointer to things to come and they knew they were finished .
Thanks for that,much appreciated as I was a year old when they split so missed the whole story as it unfolded so I’m in no position to comment on how I expect I would feel otherwise.
I’m just glad McCartney is still around in my lifetime and doing what he still clearly loves and holds dear.
For what it’s worth I think old brown shoe by GH is up there with their best songs but again someone may disagree which I think is great.
Still talking about them after all these years is quite amazing I think too.


119

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6,972 posts

38 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Elderly said:
robsa said:
Technologically impressive, …….
Yep - but the ‘performances’ are too perfect.
Are they perfect or just of the time due to the latest recording techniques?

If they were still going, i would imagine them to sound pretty much like this today.

ThePrisoner

1,057 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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Scotter said:
Thanks for that,much appreciated as I was a year old when they split so missed the whole story as it unfolded so I’m in no position to comment on how I expect I would feel otherwise.
I’m just glad McCartney is still around in my lifetime and doing what he still clearly loves and holds dear.
For what it’s worth I think old brown shoe by GH is up there with their best songs but again someone may disagree which I think is great.
Still talking about them after all these years is quite amazing I think too.
beer

Enjoy Scotter

A very special band, biggrin

Riley Blue

21,087 posts

228 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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I've been listening to it on and off for a few days. Little of the melody has stuck in my head and only a handle of words so I don't consider it an instant classic song like many others from the Beatles; I won't be adding it to my playlist. It's beautifully produced, has little memory evoking echoes to past songs and though I thought some of the CGI was ham fisted I enjoyed seeing the four of them 'recording' it.

It seems to me that it's little more than John tinkering on the piano; it's unfinished, work in progress and perhaps ought to have been left as such. I also doubt that John and especially George would have wanted it to have been the final Beatles song.

anonymoususer

6,003 posts

50 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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I think it's very "clever" what they have done.
I'm not so sure it's a great last song but it's a good song which I find quite sad and haunting.

The video I find a bit off. Again it's very clever and it's nice to see the mix of how they looked at different times but having John in many shots acting "goofy" just seems out of place to me.

I always thought Free as a bird was too much like ELO myself

Kinky

39,635 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Rick Beato did a great video on how the song was done using AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PAkVIFUZPQ

Stealthracer

7,783 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Just discovered this version - which I actually prefer!


119

Original Poster:

6,972 posts

38 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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Stealthracer said:
Just discovered this version - which I actually prefer!

That is quite good however it isn’t the Beatles.

hehe

Pitre

4,651 posts

236 months

Tuesday 7th November 2023
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119 said:
Stealthracer said:
Just discovered this version - which I actually prefer!

That is quite good however it isn’t the Beatles.

hehe
Like it thumbup

ThePrisoner

1,057 posts

210 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Kinky said:
Rick Beato did a great video on how the song was done using AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PAkVIFUZPQ
Thanks for that. Very interesting and my thoughts exactly.

Escort3500

11,953 posts

147 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Fascinating technology, but what a dirge frown

Mave

8,209 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Escort3500 said:
Fascinating technology, but what a dirge frown
I agree. I'm don't particularly like the Beatles (I know, sacrilege), I don't mind some of their stuff and can hum along quite happily - bit this is aimless banality.

Stealthracer

7,783 posts

180 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Well I couldn't disagree more - indeed if you dive into the structure you should be pleasantly surprised. I certainly was, as I'd always held the opinion that John wrote the better words, and Paul the better music (although I will concede that both were capable of invading the other's territory from time to time).

This chap explains it better than I can: