Jay Z kicks off Glastonbury set with

[Twit]

Agree with the above. Some of the smaller British festivals are now much closer to the glastonbury of old, I stopped going to Glastonbury when it really kicked up a gear on the commercial front. I don't care what anyone says it certainly changed for the worse about 93ish...

Also, its so flipping expensive, for the same money you can go to some of the european festivals where the main bill is just as big, the weather is better, its a bit more chilled out and doesnt have a city boys festival weekend atmosphere.

Actually thinking about it it was probably 92 that it went a bit wrong when they stopped travellers coming in, for me that changed the whole atmosphere.

[Plotloss]

there were still travellers there in 97 and 98 in the travellers enclave thats now the glade.

i'd say the biggest change for the worse came when the mean fiddler became involved.

[Twit]

What I was mentioning in 92 was specific to 92, they actually stopped the buses coming in and left them outside! It was at the time of the parties and CJB so I'm sure that had something to do with it! I have a tape of the Levellers from that year somewhere and they were ranting about it in front ofa huge audience on the Sunday afternoon...

[Chris71]

castrolcraig said:

quite honestly the worst glasto performance ever.

(on a par with miss crackhouse)

Jeez. Glad I didn't see it.

On reflection I should probably have gone to Massive Attack, but we decided to check out Kosheen instead who were pretty good, but seemed to flag towards the end of the gig.

Everyone we heard talking in the crowd who'd seen it seem to rate the Jay-Z gig, but there again that still left a couple of hundred thousand people who weren't saying anything about it!

The Verve on Sunday night, however, were awesome. They were the only big-name band there who really felt like Glasto headliners. One of the best gigs I've seen at Glastonbury.

[Mattygooner]

Wow, so much to reflect on a topic.

Firstly, Wish i would have gone to see the Raconteurs!!!

Jay-Z - Well i am a big fan of his stuff, old and new, he has worked incredibly hard for his job and the cash he now has, a fantastic rapper and by all accounts a down to earth and pretty reasonable chap. I think he deserved to be there, he is along with Naz probably the greatest living rapper, anywhere in America that gig would have been sold out twice. I agree that it probably was not the best idea but i did enjoy his performance and clearly he put alot of effort in to it, but i think he should have done the album version of encore, same as the video at Madisson Square.

People dismissing it at st because they don't like rap is quite expected but a little stupid.

Winehouse - Wish she would just go away, front row, i would have smacked the bint back. Not only that but if she has TB then i would be telling her to get away from me let alone high five me..

[Chris71]

Mattygooner said:

Firstly, Wish i would have gone to see the Raconteurs!!!

They were fecking awesome.

[Baby Huey]

I went a few times in the early 90's and it was superb, you didn't care who was on the bill. Standing and watching the bands was something to do when you were bored.
It was all about the atmosphere, characters, sights and sounds that you could find around the periphery of the main stages.
I saw Oasis the first time they played there, absolute dross. This show has gone down as being a big event, but the band looked scared and sounded crap.
Best live shows show was the night when Primal Scream played followed by The Orb. Fantastic.

[Chris71]

Baby Huey said:

I went a few times in the early 90's and it was superb, you didn't care who was on the bill. Standing and watching the bands was something to do when you were bored.
It was all about the atmosphere, characters, sights and sounds that you could find around the periphery of the main stages.
I saw Oasis the first time they played there, absolute dross. This show has gone down as being a big event, but the band looked scared and sounded crap.
Best live shows show was the night when Primal Scream played followed by The Orb. Fantastic.

Without a doubt. I don't understand why so many people complained about Jay-Z. I had no intention of watching him so I went and saw one of the 912 other acts (and no, I'm not making that number up!) I think the supporting lineup - Raconteurs, We Are Scientists, Manu Chao, Fun Loving Criminals, Buddy Guy, Fatboy Slim, The Levellers et al was one of the best in ages. And, as implied above, you could quite happily spend three days at glasto without seeing a single band.

To be fair, this year's festival didn't seem to have quite the atmosphere of some of the previous ones, but I think that was largely due to going with just one (not very 'outdoors') person rather than a big group of drunken seasoned festival-goers like I've done in the past. It's still so much better and friendlier than the other big festivals though. I've always preffered the lineup at Reading and so on, but the atmosphere (even these days) just doesn't compare.

[qube_TA]

[Baby Huey]

One of the years I went, Rolf Harris was on, still managed to have a good time.

[okgo]

Channel two now, for the making of his debut album. Will be a good insight

[trackrat]

sstein said:

What I don't get is how people connect or relate to rap music?

The lyrics and their content are so far removed from life in Britain, and the experiences of most people over here who listen to that type of music?

I don't get it

-

Stuart

Just like any genre of music, there are artists that touch on many subjects. It's not all "gangsta".

Politics, racism, struggle, success, loss of loved ones, peace, robots or rapping from the POV of a hamburger ...... you name it, someone has rapped about it.

Hell, MF DOOM (persona = super villian) has another persona called King Geedora, a three headed dragon.

Edited by trackrat on Tuesday 8th July 09:55

[elster]

castrolcraig said:

spiritof'76 said:

Saw Oasis at Glastonbury some years back and sadly they were embarrasingly lame and they acknowleged the fact,they've got to be the most inconsistent act ever.
Jay Z not really my bag but had every right to be there and by all accounts gave his all - saw him on Jonny Ross and thought he came over ok,i don't have a problem with him at all.
And the prize for the best performance at this years Glastonbury goes to - By a country mile or three - The Raconteurs !! Bloody awesome,they had it all.Sadly no tv coverage of Seasick Steve though,the guys a real hoot and a great Bluesman with it !

seen oasis 3 times now, maine road, knebworth and city of manchester and i have to say that maine road was the best live performance ever, no competition at all, rumour has it that they are headlining next year at glasto and if this is the case, lets see how long the tickets take to sell out.....

Rumour's do lots of things, but rarely are rumours of headliners right at this stage, such a long time before glasto.

I like Jay-Z, but the demographic for his music is not really that of the majority of Pistonheaders.

I did notice Noel Gallagher trying to backtrack his comments this week, but hey it did a world of good for both acts sales.