Garage Door Replacement with Roller Door

[The Leaper]

We are replacing our up-and-over garage doors, and we have decided that we are going for powered roller doors. We'll probably get a minimum of three quotes. Googling indicates a substantial difference between suppliers as regards materials, family-owned versus franchise businesses, costs of course, etc.

So, ahead of making any decisions, I thought I'd ask PHers for their experiences and advice, with roller doors, and the firms that fit them. Over to you all, and thanks in advance.

R.

[Fer]

No help here, I am afraid, but watching with interest, as I am in the market for a new garage door, as it's beginning to show it's age.

[Rob_125]

For reference, had a 2.1 x 4.25 hormann roller T fitted last year for just under £2400. I'd imagine prices have crept since then.

Does job, seals nicely against the slab.

There are a fair few garage door threads already, so it is worth searching the forum.

[The Leaper]

Rob_125 said:

For reference, had a 2.1 x 4.25 hormann roller T fitted last year for just under £2400. I'd imagine prices have crept since then.

Does job, seals nicely against the slab.

There are a fair few garage door threads already, so it is worth searching the forum.

Ah, I did use the search facility but not much luck. I'll do a more robust trawl.

R.

[Mark83]

Based on wanting the same and having someone to come out and quote... Do you have sufficient height inside the garage for the box it rolls in to? I have an up and over but the ceiling height was low enough that the box inside would sit lower than the top of the door opening. They suggested either raising the garage roof height or a sectional door instead of roller. I've since parked the idea.

[The Leaper]

Fer said:

No help here, I am afraid, but watching with interest, as I am in the market for a new garage door, as it's beginning to show it's age.

Fer,

Watch his space!

By tomorrow evening I will have seen two of the potentially three firms we may consider using. I'll report back asap.

R.

[Fer]

The Leaper said:

Fer,

Watch his space!

By tomorrow evening I will have seen two of the potentially three firms we may consider using. I'll report back asap.

R.

Thanks - I had been looking at Birkdale doors via Costco... I have the stupid question about how you can access if the power goes out, as the fuse box is in the garage.

[Mikey G]

Fer said:

Thanks - I had been looking at Birkdale doors via Costco... I have the stupid question about how you can access if the power goes out, as the fuse box is in the garage.

You would have the option of mechanical means of opening normally via a locked porthole in the frame of the door where you put a handle and wind it up. Just dont lock the handle IN the garage

[Rob_125]

Fer said:

The Leaper said:

Fer,

Watch his space!

By tomorrow evening I will have seen two of the potentially three firms we may consider using. I'll report back asap.

R.

Thanks - I had been looking at Birkdale doors via Costco... I have the stupid question about how you can access if the power goes out, as the fuse box is in the garage.

Believe most roller shutter have the option for an external emergency opener. Ie drill a hole through the wall which lines up with the door mechanism. You are supplied with a crank, which you put through the wall/hole to manually open the door. These generally have a lockable cover.

[M11rph]

Something that's on my to-do-list also.

Here's one other recent thread on the topic...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Dannbodge]

Recently had a Novoferm insulated single roller fitted.
Opted for the full box inside and an external keypad.

Came to £1700 fitted from a local firm that have been operating for 40years.

They were far cheaper than the bigger companies

Edited by Dannbodge on Thursday 23 February 10:08

[mikeiow]

Mark83 said:

Based on wanting the same and having someone to come out and quote... Do you have sufficient height inside the garage for the box it rolls in to? I have an up and over but the ceiling height was low enough that the box inside would sit lower than the top of the door opening. They suggested either raising the garage roof height or a sectional door instead of roller. I've since parked the idea.

We went sectional many years ago when we extended for that reason - no space in the room we built above.
We have some storage space above the doors for long flat things - mostly timber. Obviously only usable when the door is closed! They work well.
Might even be more thermally efficient - fewer seams…

Dannbodge said:

Recently had a Novoferm insulated single door fitted.
Opted for the full box inside and an external keypad.

Came to £1700 fitted from a local firm that have been operating for 40years.

They were far cheaper than the bigger companies

& our sectional doors were also Novoferm: architect suggested at the time they were as good as Hormann but somewhat cheaper to buy.
15 years on, they still work just as well as they did the day we had them installed

[phumy]

A pair of Hormann electric, sectional, 50mm thick insulated doors.

£4.2k fitted, started at 9.00am finished at 3.00pm. Excellent quality and fitted perfectly.

[aeropilot]

I had a single garage roller door fitted 18 months ago in Sept 2021.
SeceuroGlide roller shutter door, fitted by local agent for SeceuroGlide. It was just over £1800. Very happy with it.

[sospan]

Had a single garage Horman electric roller fitted 3 years ago. Old up and over it replaced was past its best. The mechanism inside had two options for space available. The local agent measured up. Fitted by his 2 oppos in about 2 hours. Cost about £1200 I think, maybe marginally less. Faultless since installation.
Fitted inside so no narrowing of the gap. Two fobs. External release in a locked box in case of power failure. Light on a timer when activated. Usual safety reverse switches if travel blocked.
Chose Horman as we had a manual up and over in the previous house and excellent.

[The Leaper]

Thanks for the posts and for links to other threads on this subject, all a good read.

By way of an update, our neighbour is joining in with this, so four single doors being replaced. Neighbour and I decided to get 3 quotes (all received), but actually we are getting a fourth tomorrow morning. We'll then make a decision which, hopefully, will mean that we will use the same company for all 4 doors which does get us a reasonable discount. Lead time seems to be 3-5 weeks.

Further update to follow.

R.

[The Leaper]

A further update:

1. We obtained four quotes etc for the replacement of the garage doors at our houses, four single doors.

2. There were significant huge differences in the quality of the products.

3. There were very significant differences in the cost of supply and installation.

4. The four firms who quoted were also very different:

• one manufactured, supplied and fitted everything; all their employees are fully employed by the firm;
• one was a franchise and sourced from scratch what they considered to be the right doors for us,;
• one was a door installation company who were an agent for doors manufactured by various companies; all their employees are fully employed by the door installation company;
• one was a one-man business that installed the doors which he sourced from an appropriate manufacturer.

One thing that we learned was that the warranties available from the door manufacturers were all very different. The differences were mainly the period of the warranty, what was and was not covered by the warranty, and also what maintenance had to be done and proved to have been done before any remedial work would be done under the warranty. This latter means that an annual service contract is essential if you want to maintain the warranty.

We have decided to proceed with one of the firms. Our decision was based principally on the quality of the doors and their reputation, type of firm, reputation of the firm, price, and contract terms. We hope we have chosen wisely!

R.

[Glosphil]

3 years ago we had the single up & over door on our built-in double garge replaced with a Birkdale roller door. Our lounge is above the garage & the extra insulation of the roller door has definitely improved the temperature in that room.

We have a socket (with a locking cover) for a manual opening crank in the side wall of the garage. Had to use it once - damn, it does take an age to wind up the door.

[rewild]

Best house/garage upgrade I've done in ages. We went with Hormann roller doors for no reason other than there's a good local installer. Very happy with the product.

The amount of space freed up inside vs up and overs (or sectional I suppose) is fantastic. I've got the roofbox on the ceiling and a load more wall space nearer the doors for hooks and shelves, plus no more risk of slicing my head open on the stupid up-and-over frame. Those things are absolutely lethal if you're tall.

Cost was about £3k fitted for 2 single doors, white, non-insulated, with half a dozen remotes and outside keypad.

[C n C]

The Leaper said:

A further update:

1. We obtained four quotes etc for the replacement of the garage doors at our houses, four single doors.

2. There were significant huge differences in the quality of the products.

3. There were very significant differences in the cost of supply and installation.

4. The four firms who quoted were also very different:

• one manufactured, supplied and fitted everything; all their employees are fully employed by the firm;
• one was a franchise and sourced from scratch what they considered to be the right doors for us,;
• one was a door installation company who were an agent for doors manufactured by various companies; all their employees are fully employed by the door installation company;
• one was a one-man business that installed the doors which he sourced from an appropriate manufacturer.

One thing that we learned was that the warranties available from the door manufacturers were all very different. The differences were mainly the period of the warranty, what was and was not covered by the warranty, and also what maintenance had to be done and proved to have been done before any remedial work would be done under the warranty. This latter means that an annual service contract is essential if you want to maintain the warranty.

We have decided to proceed with one of the firms. Our decision was based principally on the quality of the doors and their reputation, type of firm, reputation of the firm, price, and contract terms. We hope we have chosen wisely!

R.

Thanks for the update, which is sort of interesting.

Unfortunately, for those of us considering replacing an old up and over with a new roller or sectional door, your post is of very little help/use.

Any chance of expanding on

2. What were the quality differences, and which (named) products were better quality?

3. What were the actual costs for supply and installation?

4. Who were the 4 firms, what were their prices, and which one did you opt to go with in the end?

... also, did supply and installation include removal and disposal of your old doors, and which part of the country are you in?

Note - as the above information is completely factual, none of it would fall foul of this forum's "name and shame" rules, but the specifics of your experience could prove very helpful to other PHers looking to do the same.