REAL Off-road built like a tank that doesn't break the bank?
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IroningMan said:
If you're in central Europe then I'd have thought that a G-Wagen would be the logical answer - parts support, specialist indy workshops and aftermarket bits will be a piece of cake compared to something Japanese which only ever sold in vanishingly small numbers.
You are not wrong about that. The Mercedes G is way more common and available here than Patrols and Land Cruisers. But parts are still expensive and so is maintenance. It is still a Mercedes and specially the G, I don't know what it is but there seems to be a cult around it or something that anything G related is more expensive than other Mercedes. But on top of all that there is what I already mentioned about the G-Wagen. They are expensive to buy, too small and dog ugly. Also, apart from the Mercedes rep for reliability, it seems the G is not the tank folklore would have you believe. Doesn't really seem any more reliable than the Japanese.
Altogether I would say they are over priced for what they are. The price seems more based on the cult than on what the car is actually capable of.
Edited by J4x4K on Wednesday 10th June 23:17
That's true of an awful lot of vehicles - including Landcruisers and Defenders - but the G Wagen does seem to benefit from it more than most.
The flipside is that it will hold its value for you better than most for the same reason.
As for the looks - no oil painting, perhaps, but compared to the blobfests turned out by Toyota and Nissan over the last 20 years? And what is it about Japanses 4x4s and blue plastic interiors with 1970s hotel carpet on the seats...?
The flipside is that it will hold its value for you better than most for the same reason.
As for the looks - no oil painting, perhaps, but compared to the blobfests turned out by Toyota and Nissan over the last 20 years? And what is it about Japanses 4x4s and blue plastic interiors with 1970s hotel carpet on the seats...?
IroningMan said:
That's true of an awful lot of vehicles - including Landcruisers and Defenders - but the G Wagen does seem to benefit from it more than most.
The flipside is that it will hold its value for you better than most for the same reason.
As for the looks - no oil painting, perhaps, but compared to the blobfests turned out by Toyota and Nissan over the last 20 years? And what is it about Japanses 4x4s and blue plastic interiors with 1970s hotel carpet on the seats...?
Ha! Don't know. But what is it with German car interiors all looking like the interior of a Golf? Specially the G interior is dreadful if you have no leather. But I find the Patrol and Pajero interiors not bad, specially if you have leather.The flipside is that it will hold its value for you better than most for the same reason.
As for the looks - no oil painting, perhaps, but compared to the blobfests turned out by Toyota and Nissan over the last 20 years? And what is it about Japanses 4x4s and blue plastic interiors with 1970s hotel carpet on the seats...?
As for the external look, the G is a box with wheels. Anybody who thinks the Ranger Rovers up to the L322 and the Discos are boxes have never seen a G-wagon. All together there is nothing appealing in a G-wagon for me.
I think the Land Cruisers, Patrols and Pajeros look way better. But you are right, there are some very questionable designs by Japanese manufacturers, but then again also by any manufacturer.
But you are right, the upfront investment will definitely hold when you re-sale.
J4x4K said:
But on top of all that there is what I already mentioned about the G-Wagen. They are expensive to buy, too small and dog ugly. Also, apart from the Mercedes rep for reliability, it seems the G is not the tank folklore would have you believe. Doesn't really seem any more reliable than the Japanese.
Altogether I would say they are over priced for what they are. The price seems more based on the cult than on what the car is actually capable of.
You ask for advice but apparently don't need any because you already have all the answers, so not much point in trying to educate you about G Wagons (which you clearly know f**K all about). Altogether I would say they are over priced for what they are. The price seems more based on the cult than on what the car is actually capable of.
bigblock said:
J4x4K said:
But on top of all that there is what I already mentioned about the G-Wagen. They are expensive to buy, too small and dog ugly. Also, apart from the Mercedes rep for reliability, it seems the G is not the tank folklore would have you believe. Doesn't really seem any more reliable than the Japanese.
Altogether I would say they are over priced for what they are. The price seems more based on the cult than on what the car is actually capable of.
You ask for advice but apparently don't need any because you already have all the answers, so not much point in trying to educate you about G Wagons (which you clearly know f**K all about). Altogether I would say they are over priced for what they are. The price seems more based on the cult than on what the car is actually capable of.
Besides that I never said they were bad or anything. So I don't see your point.
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