Retro Hifi..

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telecat

8,528 posts

243 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Women and Midi Systems have lot to answer for. My BiL switched from a Arcam Based system with Tannoy 609's to a Midi. Sad to see, even worse to listen to!!!

On the Old speaker driver fron there are companies that stock and can re-produce old drivers for speakers and repair them. The cost of New speakers is such that it much cheaper to repair them. Probably one of the few areas in life that it is still possible.



Edited by telecat on Saturday 19th November 10:34

heisthegaffer

3,458 posts

200 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Nowhere near as retro as others posted on here but I have Kenwood KA-3020SE amp I use in the garage used with some Mission 731 (not sure which specific 731s as they released a few models - they're possibly 731i) which is really good. The Nad CD player - possibly a 504 - is a tempramental thing, sometimes needs a clout before it'll read a disc.

Anyone got any idea what may cause this?

Hoover.

5,988 posts

244 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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My only piece of "retro hifi"




I remember parents having a JVC system nice ally front in the early 80's ...... loved watching the needles bouncing about, adjusting recording levels when making mix tapes using the needles to balance everything up getting involved..... made everything they had afterwards seem a cheap in its 90's back plastic box styling, one touch, no adjustment quick and easy.

TonyRPH

13,024 posts

170 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Hoover. said:
I remember parents having a JVC system nice ally front in the early 80's ...... loved watching the needles bouncing about, adjusting recording levels when making mix tapes using the needles to balance everything up getting involved..... made everything they had afterwards seem a cheap in its 90's back plastic box styling, one touch, no adjustment quick and easy.
That was probably a JVC JAS-22 / JAS-44 amplifier - they match that description.

There was a range of matching tape decks too - KDA-22 + others IIRC.



Mark34bn

827 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Ah, the lost art of making mix tapes..... hate to think how many hours I spent getting the levels EXACTLY right!

tog

4,560 posts

230 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Just found this thread, lots of cool stuff!

Here are my speakers (sorry about the phone photos):





JBL Horizons, picked up for £2 at a village fete about 15 years ago. The rubbers were perished, but I got them fixed a few years ago and i've been using them ever since. Sounded great through an old Cyrus One amp, but that has packed up now and the NAD that drives them now is not so satisfying. A modern AV amp is about to come, but these speakers will remain.

The £2 also included an Akai reel-to-reel deck I've been meaning to do something with ever since. I'll fish it out of my parents garage tomorrow and take a photo. I've no idea what model it is. Is there a market for reel-to-reel decks these days?

TonyRPH

13,024 posts

170 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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tog said:
The £2 also included an Akai reel-to-reel deck I've been meaning to do something with ever since. I'll fish it out of my parents garage tomorrow and take a photo. I've no idea what model it is. Is there a market for reel-to-reel decks these days?
It's probably a 4000DS - they were very popular in the mid to late 70's and early 80's.

There doesn't seem to be much of a market for them these days though, if Ebay is anything to go by.


Morningside

24,111 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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TonyRPH said:
tog said:
The £2 also included an Akai reel-to-reel deck I've been meaning to do something with ever since. I'll fish it out of my parents garage tomorrow and take a photo. I've no idea what model it is. Is there a market for reel-to-reel decks these days?
It's probably a 4000DS - they were very popular in the mid to late 70's and early 80's.

There doesn't seem to be much of a market for them these days though, if Ebay is anything to go by.

I know where is there is one of these that is gathering dust in someones work unit scratchchin

mikees

2,758 posts

174 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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I have an arcam alpha 3 amp and alpha 4 cd plus b&w speakers. Sound is sublime. Big black units.

Steffan

10,362 posts

230 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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I used to run Lowther Super Acousta's in corner horn Brick cabinets with all Quad drivers and gear.

Utterly unbelievable power I could vibrate the plasterboard out of the ceiling without even trying.

As I got older went down to corner concrete pipes with Wharfdale Super Eights RS/DD and the like.

Never heard better clean power to this day.

Reference speakers in Studio's simply pale in comparison.

I have never got used to the CD/DVD cut off and compression.

The early live broadcasters of stereo were the best recodings I ever heard and still are to this day.

There is a freshness and depth which copmressed media can never achieve.


Pontoneer

3,643 posts

188 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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I'm glad I'm not alone in liking this stuff - I worked in a Hi-Fi shop in my late teens ( mid 1970's ) and ended up running the place in my early 20's until the owner died and the shop closed .

I had 'progressed' to a high end AV setup in recent years , but more recently tired of it and am moving back to a good 2ch music system . I have some quite nice kit in my living room , more scattered around the house and yet more either in the attic , in storage at my mother's and in the office !

These days I listen to my music via the following

Michell Gyrodec with QC power supply , Rega RB700 and Audio Technica AT-OC9 , I've had the turntable from new in the mid 1980's





The most recent change was the Rega arm , prior to that I had an SME 3009 Series III on the 'Dec




And before the Gyrodec , I had a Hydraulic Reference turntable , bought new in the mid 1970's , originally with the Transcriptor Fluid Arm but upgraded to the Series III when it came out .



Back then , I had the Quad 33/405 ( sorry , I will need to scan some slides to post pictures of that ) , mine was one of the very first Quad 405's out .

In the mid 1980's I traded the Quad electronics for the Sony TA-E1000ESD AV preamp and two of the matching TA-N55ES power amps when they were introduced , finally ending up with five of the power amps ! I have since scrapped three of the power amps due to them failing and the output devices being no longer available . Still have the preamp and two power amps although I no longer use them .

Some of the kit as used previously in my living room





More recently , I went back to Quad and purchased a 77 preamp and 707 power amp



As some will note from the above picture , I still like my Revox tape recorders , currently have a high speed , half track B77 mk II and a standard speed , quarter track A77 , I used to have two B77's and two A77's plus a high speed , half track G36 and a Uher 4200IC report portable recorder , but have whittled my collection down somewhat ; also had a Sony TC 377 in the early days as well as several Ferrographs through my hands .

This is my current setup



There are various other bits of electronics in there , mostly Sony , including the ST-S730ES FM tuner , TC-KA6ES cassette deck , DVP-S7700 DVD player ( which I use to play CD's , no longer keeping a standalone CD player in the system although I have a few still in the house ) and an MDS-W1 minidisc deck . There are also lots of video components , but I'll come back to those later .

The loudspeakers are my IMF TLS80 MKII's which I have cherished for many years and are still one of my favourite loudspeakers . I still have a pair of Quad ESL 57's in storage at my mum's and would love a pair of ESL 63's .

These are the TLS80's




I also have a pair of B&W DM2A's which I used as rear speakers in my 5.0 surround setup along with my custom made centre speaker which used 4x KEF B110 midrange units and Celestion HF1300/Coles 4001 tweeter/supertweeters to match the IMF's and B&W's which all used the same top end . The centre speaker is just visible under the TV set in the last picture above .




I also have a couple of pairs of B&W DM4's and a pair of IMF Super Compacts kicking around .



At one time I dabbled with Quadraphonic sound , before Dolby Pro Logic and AC-3 , and still have my Sony SQ-D 2020 SQ decoder up in the attic , don't use it these days .


I also have various smaller systems around the house , this little Technics system being in one of the bedrooms - SU 3500 amplifier , ST 3500 tuner and Sony CDP 101 CD player which is now something of a collector's item being the original Sony player when the format was launched back in 1986 . Pictured here with a pair of Canford Audio BA400 micro monitors .



I also still have the Sony CDP 302 ES which I replaced it with and , upstairs the matching Technics RS 276US cassette deck with direct drive capstain motor , RS 671US and RS 676US cassette decks . There is also a Nakamichi TT700 cassette deck but , alas , that one no longer works .

Coming back to the video side , one item I cannot bring myself to part with is my Sony VPH 1270QM 7" CRT video projector , although I bought it secondhand , I re-tubed it myself and once properly aligned the picture quality is stunning - just like looking out a window , it is that good ! These days , for domestic harmony I have a Samsung 3D LED TV in the living room and the projector is stored in a cupboard at work , but I will never part with it - it is so much more natural than any more modern technology .




Video sources range from the DVP-S7700 DVD player already mentioned ( top item in the picture below ) ,


then going down from the top , through the Sony EV-S 800 Video 8 deck and EV-S1000 Hi-8 deck ,

the JVC HR-D725EK ( which was one of the very first Hi-Fi VHS decks , owned by me from new and still working ) and the Sony SL-HF100UB Hi-Fi Betamax ( also owned from new and still working ) . the MDP-850 Laserdisc player



and the Panasonic AG7330 Super VHS deck . I also still have a Sony type 5 Lo Band U-matic Edit suite , although I sold the DXC M3A camera and VO-6800 portable U Matic recorder I had . These days I shoot on Mini DV with either my Sony DCR-VX1000 or JVC GY-DV5000 camcorders and play into Final Cut Pro via the BR-DV 600E deck .

There really is lots , lots more after a lifetime of collecting this stuff - sometimes even I forget that I have certain things until they come up in conversation !

I'd best not get started on Car Audio ( have high end Sony & KEF systems in both of my 1980's S Classes ) , photo equipment or a few other subjects ............

Edited by Pontoneer on Friday 30th December 01:39

tdm34ds

7,375 posts

212 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Pontoneer said:
I'm glad I'm not alone in liking this stuff - I worked in a Hi-Fi shop in my late teens ( mid 1970's ) and ended up running the place in my early 20's until the owner died and the shop closed .

I had 'progressed' to a high end AV setup in recent years , but more recently tired of it and am moving back to a good 2ch music system . I have some quite nice kit in my living room , more scattered around the house and yet more either in the attic , in storage at my mother's and in the office !

These days I listen to my music via the following

Michell Gyrodec with QC power supply , Rega RB700 and Audio Technica AT-OC9 , I've had the turntable from new in the mid 1980's





The most recent change was the Rega arm , prior to that I had an SME 3009 Series III on the 'Dec



And before the Gyrodec , I had a Hydraulic Reference turntable , bought new in the mid 1970's , originally with the Transcriptor Fluid Arm but upgraded to the Series III when it came out .



Back then , I had the Quad 33/405 ( sorry , I will need to scan some slides to post pictures of that ) , mine was one of the very first Quad 405's out .

In the mid 1980's I traded the Quad electronics for the Sony TA-E1000ESD AV preamp and two of the matching TA-N55ES power amps when they were introduced , finally ending up with five of the power amps ! I have since scrapped three of the power amps due to them failing and the output devices being no longer available . Still have the preamp and two power amps although I no longer use them .

Some of the kit as used previously in my living room




More recently , I went back to Quad and purchased a 77 preamp and 707 power amp



As some will note from the above picture , I still like my Revox tape recorders , currently have a high speed , half track B77 mk II and a standard speed , quarter track A77 , I used to have two B77's and two A77's plus a high speed , half track G36 and a Uher 4200IC report portable recorder , but have whittled my collection down somewhat ; also had a Sony TC 377 in the early days as well as several Ferrographs through my hands .

This is my current setup



There are various other bits of electronics in there , mostly Sony , including the ST-S730ES FM tuner , TC-KA6ES cassette deck , DVP-S7700 DVD player ( which I use to play CD's , no longer keeping a standalone CD player in the system although I have a few still in the house ) and an MDS-W1 minidisc deck . There are also lots of video components , but I'll come back to those later .

The loudspeakers are my IMF TLS80 MKII's which I have cherished for many years and are still one of my favourite loudspeakers . I still have a pair of Quad ESL 57's in storage at my mum's and would love a pair of ESL 63's .

These are the TLS80's




I also have a pair of B&W DM2A's which I used as rear speakers in my 5.0 surround setup along with my custom made centre speaker which used 4x KEF B110 midrange units and Celestion HF1300/Coles 4001 tweeter/supertweeters to match the IMF's and B&W's which all used the same top end . The centre speaker is just visible under the TV set in the last picture above . I also have a couple of pairs of B&W DM4's and a pair of IMF Super Compacts kicking around .

At one time I dabbled with Quadraphonic sound , before Dolby Pro Logic and AC-3 , and still have my Sony SQ-D 2020 SQ decoder up in the attic , don't use it these days .


I also have various smaller systems around the house , this little Technics system being in one of the bedrooms - SU 3500 amplifier , ST 3500 tuner and Sony CDP 101 CD player which is now something of a collector's item being the original Sony player when the format was launched back in 1986 . Pictured here with a pair of Canford Audio BA400 micro monitors .



I also still have the Sony CDP 302 ES which I replaced it with and , upstairs the matching Technics RS 276US cassette deck with direct drive capstain motor , RS 671US and RS 676US cassette decks . There is also a Nakamichi TT700 cassette deck but , alas , that one no longer works .

Coming back to the video side , one item I cannot bring myself to part with is my Sony VPH 1270QM 7" CRT video projector , although I bought it secondhand , I re-tubed it myself and once properly aligned the picture quality is stunning - just like looking out a window , it is that good ! These days , for domestic harmony I have a Samsung 3D LED TV in the living room and the projector is stored in a cupboard at work , but I will never part with it - it is so much more natural than any more modern technology .




Video sources range from the DVP-S7700 DVD player already mentioned ( top item in the picture below ) ,


then going down from the top , through the Sony EV-S 800 Video 8 deck and EV-S1000 Hi-8 deck ,

the JVC HR-D725EK ( which was one of the very first Hi-Fi VHS decks , owned by me from new and still working ) and the Sony SL-HF100UB Hi-Fi Betamax ( also owned from new and still working ) . the MDP-850 Laserdisc player



and the Panasonic AG7330 Super VHS deck . I also still have a Sony type 5 Lo Band U-matic Edit suite , although I sold the DXC M3A camera and VO-6800 portable U Matic recorder I had . These days I shoot on Mini DV with either my Sony DCR-VX1000 or JVC GY-DV5000 camcorders and play into Final Cut Pro via the BR-DV 600E deck .

There really is lots , lots more after a lifetime of collecting this stuff - sometimes even I forget that I have certain things until they come up in conversation !

I'd best not get started on Car Audio ( have high end Sony & KEF systems in both of my 1980's S Classes ) , photo equipment or a few other subjects ............
eekeek that's just excellent, I thought I was bad with a pair of modded KEF 104/2 and a
pair of REL Storms, (my next door neighbour is deaf!)

And I thought my set up was daft...



Edited by tdm34ds on Sunday 20th November 11:40

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

188 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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tdm34ds said:
my next door neighbour is deaf!)
I am fortunate to live in a 180 year old cottage with 3ft thick stone walls and nearest neighbours 100 yds away smile

tdm34ds

7,375 posts

212 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Pontoneer said:
tdm34ds said:
my next door neighbour is deaf!)
I am fortunate to live in a 180 year old cottage with 3ft thick stone walls and nearest neighbours 100 yds away smile
You're not trying hard enoough!! wink

tog

4,560 posts

230 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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TonyRPH said:
tog said:
The £2 also included an Akai reel-to-reel deck I've been meaning to do something with ever since. I'll fish it out of my parents garage tomorrow and take a photo. I've no idea what model it is. Is there a market for reel-to-reel decks these days?
It's probably a 4000DS - they were very popular in the mid to late 70's and early 80's.

There doesn't seem to be much of a market for them these days though, if Ebay is anything to go by.

I've been to look at it today, and it is in fact an Akai X-1810, with the awesome addition of an 8-track player in the side! It also seems to have speakers built in so is effectively an early boombox smile


0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th November 2011
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WhoseGeneration said:
Precursor to the Howard and Harlech, we listened to both of those and the Avon.
We bought the Avon, just down to personal choice. No, a carbon fibre (PH relevance) coned main driver did not influence us. Castle are back in production now, albeit as part of IAG.
I understand some of the Castle magic has gone from the new speakers (Knight?).

square earth

118 posts

154 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Crackie said:
Like the Ditton 15XRs ~ great speakers thumbup Doped paper is still to be beaten as a cone material.
Use to have 66's running from a 405 Quad . Good condition. Garrard Turntable . Not sure what model etc. Bought is "cheap" as i lived near swindon and you could buy some odd stuff late at night ...... Mine was a demo model i think

That could party like no tomorrow ! The DOORS and the Stones sounded great with a bit of "red leb" thrown in to the mix !!

Crackie

6,386 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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A big thanks to Digby for starting this thread thumbup. It's prompted me to resurrect an 'old' system in the dining room which hadn't been used for over 5 years because its Cyrus power had become temperamental.

The setup is fairly retro
STD 305M + SME3009 + Shure V15 1982
Exposure CD player ( the original one ) 1997
Audio Analogue Bellini Pre amp 1998
Cambridge Audio A70 power amp 1990
Impulse H2 speakers 1992

I'm now digging out the old vinyl and listening to this more than my main system....... progress, what progress ??????? hehe

900T-R

20,404 posts

259 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Impulse H2s???? love

Get thee some Audio Innovations amps to go with them (First Audio triode power amp would be my choice), lean back and enjoy in the knowledge that there'll be very little to touch it from today's hifi shops...

Crackie

6,386 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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900T-R said:
Impulse H2s???? love

Get thee some Audio Innovations amps to go with them (First Audio triode power amp would be my choice), lean back and enjoy in the knowledge that there'll be very little to touch it from today's hifi shops...
yes I'm going to try the H2s in the main system this weekend; instead of a pair Duntechs, to see how they get on. Need to find a strong helper first though.

I'm going to make a pair of Impulse H1/H2 type hybrids next year ( H1 bass section + H2 horn ) ; have got the SEAS drivers so far but not yet got round to sourcing the Focal tweeters.

Edited by Crackie on Tuesday 29th November 18:20