The Crash Detectives BBC
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I completely agree with the above point over the Disco and was my thought as soon as I saw the cctv footage.
As a driver, you still have responsibility to factor those considerations but that screen really didn't look dirty enough to be the main issue.
Why didn't they recreate the turn to have a better understanding of what happened?
As a driver, you still have responsibility to factor those considerations but that screen really didn't look dirty enough to be the main issue.
Why didn't they recreate the turn to have a better understanding of what happened?
That screen would have been driving me nuts (I get antsy over the slightest mark for no reason, bugs the hell out of me), my first thought was there washer bottle was empty or it was frozen from the claimed trip over the mountain but totally drivers fault.
Regarding the other. How many people have micro snoozes and are still here cos it didn't go wrong.
Regarding the other. How many people have micro snoozes and are still here cos it didn't go wrong.
Can't believe you only get 9 points for running someone over in daylight yet can easily get 9 points for speeding when there's no one around.
They say the woman died a few months later from unrelated health issues but I wonder if she wasn't run over would she still be alive today?
Yesterdays episode shows why you should always wear a seatbelt or if not wearing a seatbelt then sit in the front seats of the car, good reminder that I must really get around to fixing the intermittent airbag fault light I've got in my car.
They say the woman died a few months later from unrelated health issues but I wonder if she wasn't run over would she still be alive today?
Yesterdays episode shows why you should always wear a seatbelt or if not wearing a seatbelt then sit in the front seats of the car, good reminder that I must really get around to fixing the intermittent airbag fault light I've got in my car.
untakenname said:
Yesterdays episode shows why you should...
...choose your friends carefully.Seriously, with some people I think removing them permanently from society is the only thing to do. I know a civilised country probably shouldn't have the death penalty, but a big chunk of me says use him for animal feed.
defblade said:
...choose your friends carefully.
Seriously, with some people I think removing them permanently from society is the only thing to do. I know a civilised country probably shouldn't have the death penalty, but a big chunk of me says use him for animal feed.
I feel like that when I watch Traffic Cops / Police Interceptors. Recently there was a guy who took up 8 hours of time because he wouldn't give his address after a simple roadside stop because he wan't wearing a seatbelt. He ended up going to court simply for being a knob. Then there were a load of youngsters who rolled a Corsa after a high speed chase and bounced off a number of innocent cars along the way. And then last night some hyper aggressive cage fighter who was spitting and pissing in the cells. I honestly don't know how they have the patience.Seriously, with some people I think removing them permanently from society is the only thing to do. I know a civilised country probably shouldn't have the death penalty, but a big chunk of me says use him for animal feed.
Those laser scanners are something else.
Hope the van driver manages to recover but what the show perhaps does not outright explain is the police have to face this on a daily basis, the body hidden by the car and obviously careful edit to avoid things both for the family and the show (the car chase shows miss out the dreadful bits).
Hope the van driver manages to recover but what the show perhaps does not outright explain is the police have to face this on a daily basis, the body hidden by the car and obviously careful edit to avoid things both for the family and the show (the car chase shows miss out the dreadful bits).
Zirconia said:
Those laser scanners are something else.
Hope the van driver manages to recover but what the show perhaps does not outright explain is the police have to face this on a daily basis, the body hidden by the car and obviously careful edit to avoid things both for the family and the show (the car chase shows miss out the dreadful bits).
Yep. I’ve got a mate who is a traffic copper. Two of his most memorable stories are being told he was not allowed to decide somebody was dead and he needed to proceed with first aid until paramedics arrived. When he asked for back up to help with the CPR because he his was 20 feet from his body, they decided he was qualified enough to declare him dead. The other was a guy who decided to overtake a truck in a *really* stupid place and killed himself. The actual mechanism of his death was impaling himself on his rear view mirror.Hope the van driver manages to recover but what the show perhaps does not outright explain is the police have to face this on a daily basis, the body hidden by the car and obviously careful edit to avoid things both for the family and the show (the car chase shows miss out the dreadful bits).
He has a very dark sense of humour, but it is how they cope with it.
I think I’ll have a watch of it. But of a busman’s holiday really!
If anyone’s that interested in how we (BiB) cope (or don’t...), there’s a thread in Health Matters, where I link to a podcast I was interviewed for about what happened to me at work (got PTSD, had meltdown, got better but ended up slightly changed).
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
If anyone’s that interested in how we (BiB) cope (or don’t...), there’s a thread in Health Matters, where I link to a podcast I was interviewed for about what happened to me at work (got PTSD, had meltdown, got better but ended up slightly changed).
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Watched the cyclist episode yesterday afternoon during the poor weather..
It never ceases to amaze me how selfish poeple are, the couple who hit the bikers for one but also the poor guy in the van.
The dashcam footage showed the van rolling into the hedge at the side of the road and then a couple of cars drive by. Obviously they couldn`t have prevented his death but I`d have stopped and at least try to assist..
It never ceases to amaze me how selfish poeple are, the couple who hit the bikers for one but also the poor guy in the van.
The dashcam footage showed the van rolling into the hedge at the side of the road and then a couple of cars drive by. Obviously they couldn`t have prevented his death but I`d have stopped and at least try to assist..
Edited by Deerfoot on Monday 10th February 08:49
Dibble said:
I think I’ll have a watch of it. But of a busman’s holiday really!
If anyone’s that interested in how we (BiB) cope (or don’t...), there’s a thread in Health Matters, where I link to a podcast I was interviewed for about what happened to me at work (got PTSD, had meltdown, got better but ended up slightly changed).
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Not knowing what to say it but reading it on and off today.If anyone’s that interested in how we (BiB) cope (or don’t...), there’s a thread in Health Matters, where I link to a podcast I was interviewed for about what happened to me at work (got PTSD, had meltdown, got better but ended up slightly changed).
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I have started to follow some police through twitter, local force, then individuals etc. and this is discussed and often shouts out to get help. I few years ago it would not have dawned on me as I watch the "entertainment".
Megaflow said:
Zirconia said:
Those laser scanners are something else.
Hope the van driver manages to recover but what the show perhaps does not outright explain is the police have to face this on a daily basis, the body hidden by the car and obviously careful edit to avoid things both for the family and the show (the car chase shows miss out the dreadful bits).
Yep. I’ve got a mate who is a traffic copper. Two of his most memorable stories are being told he was not allowed to decide somebody was dead and he needed to proceed with first aid until paramedics arrived. When he asked for back up to help with the CPR because he his was 20 feet from his body, they decided he was qualified enough to declare him dead. The other was a guy who decided to overtake a truck in a *really* stupid place and killed himself. The actual mechanism of his death was impaling himself on his rear view mirror.Hope the van driver manages to recover but what the show perhaps does not outright explain is the police have to face this on a daily basis, the body hidden by the car and obviously careful edit to avoid things both for the family and the show (the car chase shows miss out the dreadful bits).
He has a very dark sense of humour, but it is how they cope with it.
All day, every day just watching people wither and die and some of them far too young with families desperate for hope. To me at least the worse part of her job was family members crying or screaming for someone to help them, few people can accept someone is dying until they die, how do you tell someone "the only thing I can do now is give them huge doses of Heroin until they're unconscious for the final days of their life"?
Anyway, I don't bother moaning about work at home. Tales of woe at the IT Support office don't really register.
I always knew our collision investigators were good (had I remained on traffic, rather than moving across to CID, it’s an area I’d have liked to get into). That LIDaR scanner is an amazing piece of kit, it’s also very cool. Definitely one for the Frivolous Purchases thread in the lounge!
P-Jay mentioned his wife was a district nurse and saw/dealt with some hard stuff, so he didn’t feel like he could complain about his job. When I’d recovered from my meltdown, it made me realise that it’s not some sort of “stress competition”. It’s absolutely ok to get stressed in your own field. What bothers some people wouldn’t bother others, but even more than that, our own resilience changes day to day. Stuff we’d not even have noticed one day will have us on our knees another. Everyone reacts differently and there’s no weakness or “unmanliness” in admitting you’re struggling.
I was actually able to deal (or so I thought) with the gruesome side of things and the trigger incident for me, while devastating for the family, wasn’t the “worst” incident I’d been to (in terms of blood, guts and gore, at any rate). It was just for me, at that particular time, too much on the pile to process. My psychologist told me I could’ve gone to the trigger incident an hour or a day later or earlier and it would not have flipped me out, but eventually, something would have triggered me. I was the classic “ticking time bomb”.
Fortunately, the cops in general (and my force definitely) have come on leaps and bounds with staff mental health/welfare over the last five or six years.
As an aside, my friend who does the podcast is interviewing the former Met Police Officer, John Sutherland, who took early retirement after his own struggles. His blog is well worth a read and I’ve got his book in my pile of stuff to read.
https://policecommander.wordpress.com/
P-Jay mentioned his wife was a district nurse and saw/dealt with some hard stuff, so he didn’t feel like he could complain about his job. When I’d recovered from my meltdown, it made me realise that it’s not some sort of “stress competition”. It’s absolutely ok to get stressed in your own field. What bothers some people wouldn’t bother others, but even more than that, our own resilience changes day to day. Stuff we’d not even have noticed one day will have us on our knees another. Everyone reacts differently and there’s no weakness or “unmanliness” in admitting you’re struggling.
I was actually able to deal (or so I thought) with the gruesome side of things and the trigger incident for me, while devastating for the family, wasn’t the “worst” incident I’d been to (in terms of blood, guts and gore, at any rate). It was just for me, at that particular time, too much on the pile to process. My psychologist told me I could’ve gone to the trigger incident an hour or a day later or earlier and it would not have flipped me out, but eventually, something would have triggered me. I was the classic “ticking time bomb”.
Fortunately, the cops in general (and my force definitely) have come on leaps and bounds with staff mental health/welfare over the last five or six years.
As an aside, my friend who does the podcast is interviewing the former Met Police Officer, John Sutherland, who took early retirement after his own struggles. His blog is well worth a read and I’ve got his book in my pile of stuff to read.
https://policecommander.wordpress.com/
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