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Doofus said:
I wondered how their work can cost so much, but then I learned they spend six grand (!) on painting the BMW, and the interior retrim took A MONTH!
They didn't paint the car. The owner had it painted and then had the painted shell and all the bits transported to the workshop - all explained in the program.Doofus said:
Plus, there must be about a hundred grand's worth of sheet steel in there. 
At least drill some holes in the battery boxes to reduce weight, guys.
Are they allowed to do that though, seem to recall something about the battery boxes having to be enclosed/sealed? At least drill some holes in the battery boxes to reduce weight, guys.aeropilot said:
They didn't paint the car. The owner had it painted and then had the painted shell and all the bits transported to the workshop - all explained in the program.
TBH, I didn't see the first half of the show 
aeropilot said:
Are they allowed to do that though, seem to recall something about the battery boxes having to be enclosed/sealed?
I don't know, to tell the truth, but I am frustrated by them repeatedly building battery boxes they can barely lift even when empty. Do Tesla stick their batteries in 60kg of sheet steel?Doofus said:
aeropilot said:
They didn't paint the car. The owner had it painted and then had the painted shell and all the bits transported to the workshop - all explained in the program.
TBH, I didn't see the first half of the show aeropilot said:
Are they allowed to do that though, seem to recall something about the battery boxes having to be enclosed/sealed?
I don't know, to tell the truth, but I am frustrated by them repeatedly building battery boxes they can barely lift even when empty. Do Tesla stick their batteries in 60kg of sheet steel?
Im sure they know what they are doing, enclosed boxes might be to do with fire risk... keep the flames enclosed..
Lynchie999 said:
Im sure they know what they are doing, enclosed boxes might be to do with fire risk... keep the flames enclosed..
That was my understanding.You would have thought they could use ally sheet instead to reduce the weight, but maybe they don't have the ally welding skill's in-house?
That ending to last nights show was a bit odd wasn't it, none of the ooing & ahhing on a test drive. I was semi distracted watching one minute the car had a full interiour & then it was all out again including the rear quarter panel trims etc just to fit an isolator switch under the dashboard wtf!??. & those C pillar badges looked naff as well. Non-gen BBS alloys with multi stud fittings when so much was spent elsewhere why did they fit such cheapo aftermarket generic fit wheels? The whole programme was very odd.
Richard-390a0 said:
That ending to last nights show was a bit odd wasn't it, none of the ooing & ahhing on a test drive. I was semi distracted watching one minute the car had a full interiour & then it was all out again including the rear quarter panel trims etc just to fit an isolator switch under the dashboard wtf!??. & those C pillar badges looked naff as well. Non-gen BBS alloys with multi stud fittings when so much was spent elsewhere why did they fit such cheapo aftermarket generic fit wheels? The whole programme was very odd.
Was a bit odd, you'd have thought that they would have fitted the switch BEFORE sending off to the trimmers?Probably committed it to the trimmers on a certain date, and fell behind in their build programme, so had to send to the trimmers before finishing up what they should have, and had to take it all out again.
How much was them and how much was the owners choice though? we'll never know.
I hate to think how much that 1602 cost that owner with the bodywork & paint, trim job and then what the EV conversion cost........
And yes, the c pillar badges were naff as well.
It also makes me laugh when the show starts and they run the same as ever episode waffle, claiming that people are looking at running cost savings as to why they are spending serious 5 figure sums which could run their classic for probably the next decade or longer
aeropilot said:
Richard-390a0 said:
That ending to last nights show was a bit odd wasn't it, none of the ooing & ahhing on a test drive. I was semi distracted watching one minute the car had a full interiour & then it was all out again including the rear quarter panel trims etc just to fit an isolator switch under the dashboard wtf!??. & those C pillar badges looked naff as well. Non-gen BBS alloys with multi stud fittings when so much was spent elsewhere why did they fit such cheapo aftermarket generic fit wheels? The whole programme was very odd.
Was a bit odd, you'd have thought that they would have fitted the switch BEFORE sending off to the trimmers?Probably committed it to the trimmers on a certain date, and fell behind in their build programme, so had to send to the trimmers before finishing up what they should have, and had to take it all out again.
How much was them and how much was the owners choice though? we'll never know.
I hate to think how much that 1602 cost that owner with the bodywork & paint, trim job and then what the EV conversion cost........
And yes, the c pillar badges were naff as well.
It also makes me laugh when the show starts and they run the same as ever episode waffle, claiming that people are looking at running cost savings as to why they are spending serious 5 figure sums which could run their classic for probably the next decade or longer
The C-pillar thing was c-illy. See what I did there? A silly joke for a silly c-pillar badge.
As for battery boxes, I think they go with being overly cautious if the car were to have a crash, hence the thickness of steel. But there are various plastics and even kevlar that you could look to to build a battery enclosure. However, more exotic materials mean more expense. So the choice of steel might be just down to simple cost more than anything. Battery boxes can't be too sealed either given that the batteries do get hot and need to have their temperatures controlled.
Thing that I did find odd was that they're going to the trouble of a new interior, electric this that and the other, but keeping the keep fit windows?
I wonder if they told the lady with the FIAT 500 that the engine wasn’t “blown up” after all, and did she mention to them that she actually had the original standard engine and gearbox?
£20,000 or so buys an awful lot of unleaded, especially for a FIAT 500, so you’d have to REALLY want to go electric to lash out that kind of money.
‘Pedro’ seems to be taking on the Tim Shaw role, but fortunately without the phoney blagging.
They must be doing a decent job as Westfield are advertising the electric Chesil (no prices mentioned though) but this programme is doing them no favours.
£20,000 or so buys an awful lot of unleaded, especially for a FIAT 500, so you’d have to REALLY want to go electric to lash out that kind of money.
‘Pedro’ seems to be taking on the Tim Shaw role, but fortunately without the phoney blagging.
They must be doing a decent job as Westfield are advertising the electric Chesil (no prices mentioned though) but this programme is doing them no favours.
CanAm said:
They must be doing a decent job as Westfield are advertising the electric Chesil (no prices mentioned though) but this programme is doing them no favours.
Only among petrolheads that are not their customer base.....The people that want to spunk serious 5 figure sums on ruining a good classic car by turning it into a 1:1 Scalextric car won't likely care as they won't be seeing what we're seeing.
thegreenhell said:
CanAm said:
£20,000 or so buys an awful lot of unleaded, especially for a FIAT 500, so you’d have to REALLY want to go electric to lash out that kind of money.
I think in that instance the owner said she lived within the London ULEZ, so the savings would soon rack up.She just bought something cute and trendy and wanted it to be more trendy with her trendy mates by being able to say it was electric as well.
She could have run that Fiat for years and years on the money she spent on that EV conversion.
Edited by aeropilot on Friday 24th July 17:17
thegreenhell said:
aeropilot said:
Why...
Maybe she was equally as ignorant of the ULEZ rules as I am?As I said, she bought a cutesy car than she wanted to be able to say to her trendy London mates that it was also an electric cutesy car.....and she could clearly afford it.
Interesting review of the Ferrari 308: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gad0z2NuSCA
Might be missing the point but over £40k to get rid of the V8 seems madness to me.
Also under the front bonnet is not that tidy to me.
Might be missing the point but over £40k to get rid of the V8 seems madness to me.
Also under the front bonnet is not that tidy to me.
thegreenhell said:
CanAm said:
£20,000 or so buys an awful lot of unleaded, especially for a FIAT 500, so you’d have to REALLY want to go electric to lash out that kind of money.
I think in that instance the owner said she lived within the London ULEZ, so the savings would soon rack up.Will she stick an extension lead across the pavement to charge it?
Doofus said:
I wondered how their work can cost so much, but then I learned they spend six grand (!) on painting the BMW, and the interior retrim took A MONTH!
Plus, there must be about a hundred grand's worth of sheet steel in there. At least drill some holes in the battery boxes to reduce weight, guys.
The owner spent £6k on the respray, not them. It was delivered to them freshly painted.Plus, there must be about a hundred grand's worth of sheet steel in there.
At least drill some holes in the battery boxes to reduce weight, guys.On such smaller scale lithium ion batteries in model aircraft are often charged inside fireproof blankets as those babies love to burn once they get going so I suspect a fully fireproof enclosure is a must for that aspect but it does seem crazy fabricating from thick steel plate. Anyone with a tesla care to chime in as these conversions are basically becoming a re-skinned tesla without the trick gimmicks :-)
200Plus Club said:
On such smaller scale lithium ion batteries in model aircraft are often charged inside fireproof blankets as those babies love to burn once they get going so I suspect a fully fireproof enclosure is a must for that aspect but it does seem crazy fabricating from thick steel plate. Anyone with a tesla care to chime in as these conversions are basically becoming a re-skinned tesla without the trick gimmicks :-)
Could well be for crash protection as well. There's a lot of weight there to restrain in the event of an impact.eccles said:
200Plus Club said:
On such smaller scale lithium ion batteries in model aircraft are often charged inside fireproof blankets as those babies love to burn once they get going so I suspect a fully fireproof enclosure is a must for that aspect but it does seem crazy fabricating from thick steel plate. Anyone with a tesla care to chime in as these conversions are basically becoming a re-skinned tesla without the trick gimmicks :-)
Could well be for crash protection as well. There's a lot of weight there to restrain in the event of an impact.Hydrogen cells in the next season anyone? :-)
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