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CheesecakeRunner said:
He doesn’t need a license. The raffles are run by ‘High Speed Competitions’ and because they offer a free entry route by post, and require the answering of a question to enter would appear to fall under the ‘free draw and prize competition definitions’…
https://www.highspeedcomps.com/legal/competition-t...
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/public-and-p...
As an aside, it’s quite interesting reading the Companies House entries for the various companies he’s involved with. It’s quite a web of companies via his girlfriend (wife?) and Barry Burrell of Mallory Performance.
So you can enter online once for £10, or for the same price, you can enter 13 times (second class stamps) via postage? And if you enter via the post, ‘High Speed Competitions’ receives £0.00 money. https://www.highspeedcomps.com/legal/competition-t...
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/public-and-p...
As an aside, it’s quite interesting reading the Companies House entries for the various companies he’s involved with. It’s quite a web of companies via his girlfriend (wife?) and Barry Burrell of Mallory Performance.
Crudeoink said:
I thought it a bit disingenuous to not declare the number of entries sold for the car. An entrant would have no idea if their £10 offered them a 1/500 chance or a 1/50,000 chance. Also the other prizes were an eye opener, gamble to win £250 worth of scratch cards, gamble to gamble 
Yes, it is - all the other reputable companies in this space (Revcomps, Dreamcargiveaways, Aspire etc.) all publish entry lists. Comments in the YouTube video suggest there was an error in the draw and he read out the wrong number and didn't notice either...
There was an error in the draw for the £2000 prize, I'm sure if someone had that ticket they'll go back and give them £2k. No way they'd risk their reputation for "two bags".
Whilst there is a free entry postal option, it isn't a viable means to enter when there is only 24 hours from announcement to draw, the Commission don't like that sort of thing, they'll possibly get a slap on the wrist. Making the ticket price closer to the cost of a postal entry removes that issue for competition organisers.
They've done these draws before so people know what it's about, there's no requirement to enter.
I like the channel and content, great work ethic.
Whilst there is a free entry postal option, it isn't a viable means to enter when there is only 24 hours from announcement to draw, the Commission don't like that sort of thing, they'll possibly get a slap on the wrist. Making the ticket price closer to the cost of a postal entry removes that issue for competition organisers.
They've done these draws before so people know what it's about, there's no requirement to enter.
I like the channel and content, great work ethic.
TEKNOPUG said:
So you can enter online once for £10, or for the same price, you can enter 13 times (second class stamps) via postage? And if you enter via the post, ‘High Speed Competitions’ receives £0.00 money.
It is only there as said above to cover themselves as you can’t enter by post in the time frame given for the competition.24 hours wasn’t it for the car?
A very clever person who is working hard and getting rewards, hats off to him and I enjoy watching the videos but these things don’t go on forever, so make the most of it while you can I guess.
I might buy a ticket if the McLaren ever gets raffled off though.
Crudeoink said:
I thought it a bit disingenuous to not declare the number of entries sold for the car. An entrant would have no idea if their £10 offered them a 1/500 chance or a 1/50,000 chance.
He didn't limit the number of tickets being sold, he limited the time for them to be sold in (24 hours)Consequently, he could have sold 100 tickets, giving you a 1 in 100 chance or 100,000 tickets giving you a 1 in 100,000 chance - there's no way to know until the draw closes, which is after you make your ticket purchase.
This was all declared up front in the video promoting the giveaway.
Promised Land said:
TEKNOPUG said:
So you can enter online once for £10, or for the same price, you can enter 13 times (second class stamps) via postage? And if you enter via the post, ‘High Speed Competitions’ receives £0.00 money.
It is only there as said above to cover themselves as you can’t enter by post in the time frame given for the competition.24 hours wasn’t it for the car?
Muzzer79 said:
He didn't limit the number of tickets being sold, he limited the time for them to be sold in (24 hours)
Consequently, he could have sold 100 tickets, giving you a 1 in 100 chance or 100,000 tickets giving you a 1 in 100,000 chance - there's no way to know until the draw closes, which is after you make your ticket purchase.
This was all declared up front in the video promoting the giveaway.
But on their website all other competitions showed the percentage of total available tickets sold. Meaning you could understand your own odds better, this information was removed from the Cayman raffle. Other competitions show the number of entries sold too so, in my opinion, it felt a bit underhanded. At least he got the Mrs company to run the competition though so she can take the heat if the authorities come knocking Consequently, he could have sold 100 tickets, giving you a 1 in 100 chance or 100,000 tickets giving you a 1 in 100,000 chance - there's no way to know until the draw closes, which is after you make your ticket purchase.
This was all declared up front in the video promoting the giveaway.
CheesecakeRunner said:
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As an aside, it’s quite interesting reading the Companies House entries for the various companies he’s involved with. It’s quite a web of companies via his girlfriend (wife?) and Barry Burrell of Mallory Performance.
Glad I'm not the only one that finds stuff like that interesting.As an aside, it’s quite interesting reading the Companies House entries for the various companies he’s involved with. It’s quite a web of companies via his girlfriend (wife?) and Barry Burrell of Mallory Performance.
M11rph said:
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I like the channel and content, great work ethic.
Yes, I like the channel, content and enthusiasm but for me, he's stepped over the mark of common decency with these raffles. He's encouraging gambling without offering any warnings or protection. He just wants to sell tickets.I like the channel and content, great work ethic.
He's now joined the band of spivs and conmen that will do anything for a few quid. I'd like to think he's done this in innocence as he does come accross as a bit naive although he clearly isn't daft. I think he's genuinly thinking that what he's doing is OK as he's trying to be fairly upfront.
If these numbers are anywhere close, he's starting to draw attention to himself and it's one thing being involved in unethical get rich quick schemes if they're legal, it's another if he falls foul, even if in innocence.
It will be interesting where this path will lead him. I hope it will be more entertaining content, preferably without some of the fabricated drama he's starting to include such as the arrest in Switzerland, melted pistons and smoke from the McLaren engine.
Folk still love hating on these guys, as petrol heads there is so much good (and not so good) content available and Mat also says every video " If you don't like it, you don't have to enter "
He needs to generate a living, ads and competitions are just ways to keep his channel afloat. I've bought a few tickets for his various competitions over the years and quite happy too. £20 - 30 quid a year for me that I choose to spend on a punt, and if I don't win I'm keeping the content I like on YouTube.
He needs to generate a living, ads and competitions are just ways to keep his channel afloat. I've bought a few tickets for his various competitions over the years and quite happy too. £20 - 30 quid a year for me that I choose to spend on a punt, and if I don't win I'm keeping the content I like on YouTube.
Pistom said:
Yes, I like the channel, content and enthusiasm but for me, he's stepped over the mark of common decency with these raffles. He's encouraging gambling without offering any warnings or protection. He just wants to sell tickets.
There are some proper snowflakes on this site now, does somebody from a gambling advice company come up to you and offer advice every time you buy a lottery ticket or walk through a betting shop doorway or put a 50p chip on a number at a roulette table in a casino?Dear me.
bobbo89 said:
Some people can't be happy for other peoples success, they'll call it a grift but it's just a business model that he's made work and should be applauded for it.
In my experience, feeling uncomfortable by other's success is a very British trait. I don't see it as often in other countries but we've got to be careful here. I don't see anyone here being critical of his car stuff but I doubt many would applaud him if he say started pimping Hannah out or offering drugs. Leading others to gamble without any warnings or support is not something I can applaud in a very similar way.I'd go as far as saying he seems such a grounded chap that I wouldn't be surprised if the raffle idea wasn't his and he's just being taken for the ride with his charisma as a YouTube presenter being taken advantage of.
Pistom said:
It will be interesting where this path will lead him. I hope it will be more entertaining content, preferably without some of the fabricated drama he's starting to include such as the arrest in Switzerland, melted pistons and smoke from the McLaren engine.
Switzerland was not fabricated.The OG Jester said:
Folk still love hating on these guys, as petrol heads there is so much good (and not so good) content available and Mat also says every video " If you don't like it, you don't have to enter "
He needs to generate a living, ads and competitions are just ways to keep his channel afloat. I've bought a few tickets for his various competitions over the years and quite happy too. £20 - 30 quid a year for me that I choose to spend on a punt, and if I don't win I'm keeping the content I like on YouTube.
Just in case you are not aware he has business interests outside of Youtube,, he has explained in other videos about rental properties etc.He needs to generate a living, ads and competitions are just ways to keep his channel afloat. I've bought a few tickets for his various competitions over the years and quite happy too. £20 - 30 quid a year for me that I choose to spend on a punt, and if I don't win I'm keeping the content I like on YouTube.
Pistom said:
In my experience, feeling uncomfortable by other's success is a very British trait. I don't see it as often in other countries but we've got to be careful here. I don't see anyone here being critical of his car stuff but I doubt many would applaud him if he say started pimping Hannah out or offering drugs. Leading others to gamble without any warnings or support is not something I can applaud in a very similar way.
I'd go as far as saying he seems such a grounded chap that I wouldn't be surprised if the raffle idea wasn't his and he's just being taken for the ride with his charisma as a YouTube presenter being taken advantage of.
Jesus wept - how do you cope when a gambling or lottery ad comes on the TV?I'd go as far as saying he seems such a grounded chap that I wouldn't be surprised if the raffle idea wasn't his and he's just being taken for the ride with his charisma as a YouTube presenter being taken advantage of.
He is offering his followers a chance to own a car they in lots of circumstances never own otherwise for a relatively small amount of money. If someone is dumb enough that it becomes a gateway to a gambling addiction then I am sorry but they were always going to get addicted to something. It is not so much that a fool and his money are soon parted, it is that a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place!
Nobody lead him on, he is smart and very switched on, he knows exactly what he is doing and the revenue model is what has allowed him to buy the cars he has for the content he is delivering.
simon_harris said:
Pistom said:
In my experience, feeling uncomfortable by other's success is a very British trait. I don't see it as often in other countries but we've got to be careful here. I don't see anyone here being critical of his car stuff but I doubt many would applaud him if he say started pimping Hannah out or offering drugs. Leading others to gamble without any warnings or support is not something I can applaud in a very similar way.
I'd go as far as saying he seems such a grounded chap that I wouldn't be surprised if the raffle idea wasn't his and he's just being taken for the ride with his charisma as a YouTube presenter being taken advantage of.
Jesus wept - how do you cope when a gambling or lottery ad comes on the TV?I'd go as far as saying he seems such a grounded chap that I wouldn't be surprised if the raffle idea wasn't his and he's just being taken for the ride with his charisma as a YouTube presenter being taken advantage of.
He is offering his followers a chance to own a car they in lots of circumstances never own otherwise for a relatively small amount of money. If someone is dumb enough that it becomes a gateway to a gambling addiction then I am sorry but they were always going to get addicted to something. It is not so much that a fool and his money are soon parted, it is that a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place!
Nobody lead him on, he is smart and very switched on, he knows exactly what he is doing and the revenue model is what has allowed him to buy the cars he has for the content he is delivering.
The guy is absolutely crushing it and monetizing his success as best as possible. All power to him provided he stays on the right side of the rules.
I strongly suspect that it has been researched, structured and executed very carefully with legal and tax implications well thought through.
Pistom said:
I don't see anyone here being critical of his car stuff but I doubt many would applaud him if he say started pimping Hannah out or offering drugs. Leading others to gamble without any warnings or support is not something I can applaud in a very similar way.
Christ, have some perspective.Pimping women out and offering drugs is illegal. Raffling your car off is not.
There is a marked difference between the examples you have provided.
If you don't like the car raffle, don't enter it.
Millions of people play the lottery and enter competitions every day. What this guy is doing is perfectly legitimate.
Crudeoink said:
Muzzer79 said:
He didn't limit the number of tickets being sold, he limited the time for them to be sold in (24 hours)
Consequently, he could have sold 100 tickets, giving you a 1 in 100 chance or 100,000 tickets giving you a 1 in 100,000 chance - there's no way to know until the draw closes, which is after you make your ticket purchase.
This was all declared up front in the video promoting the giveaway.
But on their website all other competitions showed the percentage of total available tickets sold. Meaning you could understand your own odds better, this information was removed from the Cayman raffle. Consequently, he could have sold 100 tickets, giving you a 1 in 100 chance or 100,000 tickets giving you a 1 in 100,000 chance - there's no way to know until the draw closes, which is after you make your ticket purchase.
This was all declared up front in the video promoting the giveaway.
The competition was limited by time, not entrants.
I think the reason some are wetting their pants here over disillusion over the raffles is because they don't see a difference between regulated gambling/gaming and the amateur efforts of Matt and his cronies are playing with.
I feel there's many areas where we're over regulated but it somehow seems wrong to let someone loose on the public just with an Excel spreadsheet and Google random number generator when they can't even read the numbers out correctly. There's a chasm of difference between the national lottery and that but I can understand some won't recognise that or even care.
Let's hope he gets back on the straight and narrow. Do raffles but do them properly.
And regarding Switzerland - the point I was making for those who feel the arrest wasn't content creation - what would they expect if 3 idiots in loud cars do doughnuts at a service area? You're hardly to get a round of applause off the UK Police for that, let alone what is probably the most anti-car country in mainland Europe.
I feel there's many areas where we're over regulated but it somehow seems wrong to let someone loose on the public just with an Excel spreadsheet and Google random number generator when they can't even read the numbers out correctly. There's a chasm of difference between the national lottery and that but I can understand some won't recognise that or even care.
Let's hope he gets back on the straight and narrow. Do raffles but do them properly.
And regarding Switzerland - the point I was making for those who feel the arrest wasn't content creation - what would they expect if 3 idiots in loud cars do doughnuts at a service area? You're hardly to get a round of applause off the UK Police for that, let alone what is probably the most anti-car country in mainland Europe.
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