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Silent1 said:
Goes to show, never talk to the police.
They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
You don't actually know that though, do you?They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
Forensics from the cars, CCTV, witnesses, Accident Investigation... All may have played a part.
If the "only" evidence was Type R's "no comment" interview, I don't see how he can have been convicted. More to this than was broadcast, I think.
Dibble said:
Silent1 said:
Goes to show, never talk to the police.
They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
You don't actually know that though, do you?They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
Forensics from the cars, CCTV, witnesses, Accident Investigation... All may have played a part.
If the "only" evidence was Type R's "no comment" interview, I don't see how he can have been convicted. More to this than was broadcast, I think.
All I did was tell the truth and it was used to hang me.
10 Pence Short said:
Dibble said:
Silent1 said:
Goes to show, never talk to the police.
They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
You don't actually know that though, do you?They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
Forensics from the cars, CCTV, witnesses, Accident Investigation... All may have played a part.
If the "only" evidence was Type R's "no comment" interview, I don't see how he can have been convicted. More to this than was broadcast, I think.
All I did was tell the truth and it was used to hang me.
There's a difference between self incrimination, and failing to defend yourself through "No comment" replies.
(I've worded that poorly, struggling to make it into readable English).
Dibble said:
10 Pence Short said:
Dibble said:
Silent1 said:
Goes to show, never talk to the police.
They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
You don't actually know that though, do you?They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
Forensics from the cars, CCTV, witnesses, Accident Investigation... All may have played a part.
If the "only" evidence was Type R's "no comment" interview, I don't see how he can have been convicted. More to this than was broadcast, I think.
All I did was tell the truth and it was used to hang me.
There's a difference between self incrimination, and failing to defend yourself through "No comment" replies.
(I've worded that poorly, struggling to make it into readable English).
I mistakenly thought the best way to be was to be frank, honest and decent. I learned the hard way that I was there to be taken advantage of.
Don't misunderstand me, I was guilty of an offence and I deserved to be punished. I was just shocked at how the knife was twisted over and beyond when it didn't need to be.
With that experience and seeing a number of other things, including coercion by officers looking for a conviction, I am now of the opinion that the Police are now corrupt. I'm not saying officers are corrupt, I'm saying the system is.
10 Pence Short said:
Dibble said:
10 Pence Short said:
Dibble said:
Silent1 said:
Goes to show, never talk to the police.
They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
You don't actually know that though, do you?They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
Forensics from the cars, CCTV, witnesses, Accident Investigation... All may have played a part.
If the "only" evidence was Type R's "no comment" interview, I don't see how he can have been convicted. More to this than was broadcast, I think.
All I did was tell the truth and it was used to hang me.
There's a difference between self incrimination, and failing to defend yourself through "No comment" replies.
(I've worded that poorly, struggling to make it into readable English).
I mistakenly thought the best way to be was to be frank, honest and decent. I learned the hard way that I was there to be taken advantage of.
Don't misunderstand me, I was guilty of an offence and I deserved to be punished. I was just shocked at how the knife was twisted over and beyond when it didn't need to be.
With that experience and seeing a number of other things, including coercion by officers looking for a conviction, I am now of the opinion that the Police are now corrupt. I'm not saying officers are corrupt, I'm saying the system is.
Dibble said:
We'll have to meet up for a pint and a chat - see if we can find the middle ground bewteen our two situations/POVs.
I mean this absolutely genuinely- I would really like to do that. You're welcome to come and stay at mine and have a few beers whenever you like.Despite what I've said, I've never been an 'anti-police' person. I've been surprised and disappointed by what I've seen in the past couple of years, though.
Send me an email if you ever fancy a pint or three for a chat.
I can understand the system punishing the good people who have made an error of judgement, I mean look at the lying scum they have to let off daily - an easy tug is good for the figures.
Look at these type of progs on tv and see people banned who didn't have a license to start off with and fined 20 pounds - hardly a deterrent for them is it.
As motoring costs rise there will be more and more of them that's for sure.
Look at these type of progs on tv and see people banned who didn't have a license to start off with and fined 20 pounds - hardly a deterrent for them is it.
As motoring costs rise there will be more and more of them that's for sure.
Broccers said:
I can understand the system punishing the good people who have made an error of judgement, I mean look at the lying scum they have to let off daily - an easy tug is good for the figures.
I've put considerably more "lying scum" before the Courts than "good people", in all my Police roles.10 Pence Short said:
Dibble said:
We'll have to meet up for a pint and a chat - see if we can find the middle ground bewteen our two situations/POVs.
I mean this absolutely genuinely- I would really like to do that. You're welcome to come and stay at mine and have a few beers whenever you like.Despite what I've said, I've never been an 'anti-police' person. I've been surprised and disappointed by what I've seen in the past couple of years, though.
Send me an email if you ever fancy a pint or three for a chat.
Turning in now - work tomorrow!
The amount of sympathy for the Honda driver on here is surprising - though with all the Health and Safety bashing it probably shouldnt surprise me (along with some big egos who probably think they can drive much better).
I wonder wha the reaction would be if they had killed someone (which they easily could have) - dangerous/reckless driving IMO
Plus they both looked liek t
ts, especially the BMW driver, either he was good at covering his emotions or genuinley thought he could go roudn driving like that and act all innocent.
I wonder wha the reaction would be if they had killed someone (which they easily could have) - dangerous/reckless driving IMO
Plus they both looked liek t
ts, especially the BMW driver, either he was good at covering his emotions or genuinley thought he could go roudn driving like that and act all innocent.The bit where the woman in the Peugeot hit the boy who 'jumped' into the road in front of her...
There was a dent in the front and presumably the boy went on to her bonnet and then landed about 10 feet in front of her car after she stopped.
Just made me think that, if you COULD remain sufficiently composed, you might be able to adjust you braking such that the person wouldn't then be catapulted back on to the tarmac/kerb/tree etc. which may cause much more damage.
There was a dent in the front and presumably the boy went on to her bonnet and then landed about 10 feet in front of her car after she stopped.
Just made me think that, if you COULD remain sufficiently composed, you might be able to adjust you braking such that the person wouldn't then be catapulted back on to the tarmac/kerb/tree etc. which may cause much more damage.
Broccers said:
Dibble said:
I've put considerably more "lying scum" before the Courts than "good people", in all my Police roles.
Good for you - but as the Police accept any tom, dick and harry these days you may be the first to admit the force isnt what it was. The force is not what it was, 30 years ago it was full of officers drinking on duty, holding down second jobs and some officers fabricating evidence before going down to the cell to give someone a kicking...
All depends what you want.
All officers put more criminals through the court than ever before, very few decent people go to court. Those that do will be victims of circumstance and will answer to the courts and people drawn from society. Most decent people who make mistakes get dealt with via a caution or a pnd these days.
A SPEEDING driver miraculously escaped with his life after his car somersaulted through the air and smashed into the roof of a house.
Jason Duck, 31, only suffered fractured ribs and punctured both lungs in the dramatic crash, which happened after he became involved in a race with another driver he had never met.
Duck, of Bells Road, Hedon, had been racing Iain Bland, 33, along the B1244, near Hornsea when he lost control of his Honda Civic as he tried to overtake.
Travelling at speeds of more than 80mph, he crashed into a grass verge and his car went spinning through the air over a hedge, before landing on the roof of the property.
Fortunately, no one was at home.
Sentencing the pair at Hull Crown Court, Judge James Spencer QC said they behaved like “stupid teenagers” and had put themselves and others in jeopardy.
Inspector Mike Dring, who heads Humberside Police's East Riding roads policing team, said: “Everybody walked away from this, but the reality is it could have been a really nasty incident.”
The court heard the pair had been driving in the Hornsea area at about 7.10am on September 22.
CCTV footage showed Duck's Honda was in front of Bland's BMW Z4.
However, at some point, between Hornsea and Seaton, businessman Bland overtook Duck.
A chase then ensued and a witness described how the Honda matched the speed of the BMW and followed close behind it.
Police told the court the pair were driving at “no less than 80mph”. It is thought they may have reached speeds of up to 100mph.
Prosecutor Nick Adlington said Duck lost control as he tried to overtake Bland on the wrong side of the road and his car “somersaulted” through the air and on to the roof of the house.
Bland, of Burton Road, Hornsea, drove away from the scene, but was later arrested after police traced him from CCTV footage.
Both pleaded guilty to charges of dangerous driving.
Judge Spencer gave Duck, a kitchen fitter, a 12-month suspended sentence, ordered him to carry out 200 hours of unpaid work and disqualified him from driving for four years.
The court heard he had previous convictions for dangerous driving, driving whilst disqualified and drink driving.
The judge accepted there was a difference between the pair and handed Bland a 12-month community order with a 100-hour unpaid work requirement.
He was disqualified from driving for two years.
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Dibble said:
Silent1 said:
Goes to show, never talk to the police.
They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
You don't actually know that though, do you?They were both convicted on their interviews, no other evidence.
Forensics from the cars, CCTV, witnesses, Accident Investigation... All may have played a part.
If the "only" evidence was Type R's "no comment" interview, I don't see how he can have been convicted. More to this than was broadcast, I think.
Why you should never talk to the police
The principle is the same despite it being based on US law.
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