Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

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thegreenhell

15,917 posts

221 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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WarrenB said:
Would the accident affect the price that much, considering it was inspected by McLaren again once the repairs were done. And it didn't affect the price of Rowan Atkinsons F1, although granted they are very different cars...

I don't think Tim's Senna not selling is anything against that particular car either. It has to be one of the most tastefully specced Sennas out there, and despite the accident you know it's been fastidiously maintained.
F1s come onto the open market once in a blue moon, which makes it a seller's market. There were no other non-story F1s for sale at the same time to say whether its accident history affected the price or not.

There are currently more than a dozen Sennas for sale in Europe. If you were in the market for something like that, what would make you buy the one with known accident history, however slight and well repaired, if not a favourable price? Some people simply won't buy one with any adverse stories in its history.

h0b0

7,785 posts

198 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Hoovies ex-Murci up for sale on Doug cars and bids



Edited by h0b0 on Saturday 12th August 21:02

Doofus

26,480 posts

175 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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h0b0 said:
Link is for a Cayenne Turbo

h0b0

7,785 posts

198 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Doofus said:
h0b0 said:
Link is for a Cayenne Turbo
That should be listed under known flaws along with hole drilled in tub.

Updated link above

Horsey McHorseface

2,554 posts

186 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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TUS373 said:
ThomasBMW87 said:
Tim Shmee150 has dropped the price of his McLaren Senna below £700k.


I think he's struggling to move it.
Specialist car, increased cost of finance. Plus...everyone knows it has been involved in an accident.
SOR? What’s the dealers likely percentage/fee on that?

InformationSuperHighway

6,161 posts

186 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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ThomasBMW87 said:
Tim Shmee150 has dropped the price of his McLaren Senna below £700k.

I think he's struggling to move it.
It’s a sub £500k car for me. I’m sure he would take it back (like the STO) than sell it for that though.

thegreenhell

15,917 posts

221 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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h0b0 said:
That should be listed under known flaws along with hole drilled in tub.

Updated link above
Murcielago doesn't have a tub. It's a tubular steel spaceframe with composite floor, tunnel and bulkhead panels glued and rivetted on, just like a kit car. The hole won't make any difference to the structure.

Anyway, the advert is very clear about the car's ownership history, and anyone looking to buy it can and should just go and watch all the relevant videos on his channel.

Edit - the hole in the tunnel is actually listed in the advert as a modification.

Edited by thegreenhell on Sunday 13th August 09:47

PT1984

2,345 posts

185 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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The Hagerty / Larry Chen car culture videos are really worth a watch. I do love Singapore.

simonrockman

6,875 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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InformationSuperHighway said:
ThomasBMW87 said:
Tim Shmee150 has dropped the price of his McLaren Senna below £700k.

I think he's struggling to move it.
It’s a sub £500k car for me. I’m sure he would take it back (like the STO) than sell it for that though.
Didn't a Senna go for quite a bit less than £700k on Collecting Cars?

Horsey McHorseface

2,554 posts

186 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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simonrockman said:
Didn't a Senna go for quite a bit less than £700k on Collecting Cars?
3x RHD sold in 2021 for £524-£605k. One in 2022 for £705k
https://collectingcars.com/buy/?query=mclaren%20se...

MisterBigglesworth

454 posts

50 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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I suspect everyone who wanted a senna already has or had one, there are several cars on at 700 to 800k with delivery mileage vs a 4000 Mile car which is moon miles for a hypercar and had a smack however well repaired means its only going to sell very cheap to someone who wants a track we to abuse.

500k tops I would say, if there were any sort of demand for these there wouldn't be delivery mile cars on autotrader and anyone with 700k to spend is more likely to dig in for another 50 to get a garage queen.

I think he will be stuck with it.

Edited by MisterBigglesworth on Sunday 13th August 17:11

PinkHouse

1,063 posts

59 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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What was the average list price plus options for Senna's?

ThomW

1,171 posts

30 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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The whole ‘it’s had a crash’ thing is so stupid. I guarantee half the Sennas with actual miles have had some crash damage, they just haven’t had it plastered all over the internet. It’s a simple crash repair, it’s not recorded on the Cat system, so it’s irrelevant.

Spec is what’s important. The earlier poster has it nailed - it’s down to the fact that the Senna is a stupid car.

The Rotrex Kid

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30,676 posts

162 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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ThomW said:
I guarantee half the Sennas with actual miles have had some crash damage,
I’d wager that is wildly inaccurate.

ThomW

1,171 posts

30 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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The Rotrex Kid said:
I’d wager that is wildly inaccurate.
I know of four uk cars with over 5000 miles that have all had some damage either on track or road. Broken splitter, damaged wheel, rear diffuser, etc

The Rotrex Kid

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30,676 posts

162 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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ThomW said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
I’d wager that is wildly inaccurate.
I know of four uk cars with over 5000 miles that have all had some damage either on track or road. Broken splitter, damaged wheel, rear diffuser, etc
I (and most people) wouldn’t class any of those as ‘crash damage’

honda_exige

6,164 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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ThomW said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
I’d wager that is wildly inaccurate.
I know of four uk cars with over 5000 miles that have all had some damage either on track or road. Broken splitter, damaged wheel, rear diffuser, etc
Not only is that not crash damage but that kind of damage is easily lost to the sands of time. As this thread has shown this car will always be known as 'Shmee's crashed car' by the general public.

614-HSO

1,350 posts

50 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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MisterBigglesworth said:
I suspect everyone who wanted a senna already has or had one, there are several cars on at 700 to 800k with delivery mileage vs a 4000 Mile car which is moon miles for a hypercar and had a smack however well repaired means its only going to sell very cheap to someone who wants a track we to abuse.

500k tops I would say, if there were any sort of demand for these there wouldn't be delivery mile cars on autotrader and anyone with 700k to spend is more likely to dig in for another 50 to get a garage queen.

I think he will be stuck with it.
If you want a Senna one that has been driven and used is the best type to get, unless you are just going to store it, Tim should be tracking it more like James on a proper McLaren track-day.
I know James is hated here, but this is a pretty decent video imo


B0unty_Hunter

173 posts

42 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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The Rotrex Kid said:
I (and most people) wouldn’t class any of those as ‘crash damage’
But by that metric neither was Tim's car crashed either.

It got lightly scraped down the rear quarter and I (and most people) wouldn't class that as 'having been crashed'

Edited by B0unty_Hunter on Sunday 13th August 19:40

SydneyBridge

8,797 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Not sure about Mat Armstrong's RS6 but why not and they will love it at Seema