Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

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waynecyclist

9,024 posts

116 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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pquinn said:
As for the show car - it's a display toy, always was and always will be. Sort of fun if you've got space to spare but mostly pointless - shiny mechanical bits make better decorations.
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.

honda_exige

6,084 posts

208 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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waynecyclist said:
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.

I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?


Red9zero

7,131 posts

59 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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Ben Jk said:
Tbf the company he has got it from are very reputable. A lot of celebs/sports people have them for the same reason. If I had a highly desirable property or was a person more at risk of theft/attack then I would probable have one too. Cost upwards of £30k I believe? Not really “council as fk”. It’s a highly trained protection dog not a status dog.


Edited by Ben Jk on Monday 3rd January 14:32
Apologies. I'm comparing it to the untrained dangerous breed dogs seen on any dodgey estate. Still looks pretty scarey though !

waynecyclist

9,024 posts

116 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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honda_exige said:
waynecyclist said:
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.

I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?

What I like about that picture is the bits of box section stuck on to hold the nose on laugh

ZX10R NIN

27,756 posts

127 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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honda_exige said:
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.

I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?

I'd say he knew exactly what he was buying & how much he'd make in content, he's not stupid around a pound note so knows it's not going to ever be made to run.

InformationSuperHighway

6,120 posts

186 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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ZX10R NIN said:
honda_exige said:
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.

I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?

I'd say he knew exactly what he was buying & how much he'd make in content, he's not stupid around a pound note so knows it's not going to ever be made to run.
Agreed, and the longer he makes his viewers all think there is a 'chance'.. they'll stay hooked.

It has been a simulator for the last 15 years... Tim is really into sim racing... it's going to stay a sim racer.

Ben Jk

1,651 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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waynecyclist said:
pquinn said:
As for the show car - it's a display toy, always was and always will be. Sort of fun if you've got space to spare but mostly pointless - shiny mechanical bits make better decorations.
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.
The comments on YouTube say a lot for his main viewer base. Some ridiculous comments. That’s not a dig at him as clearly the business model works and I also watch a lot of his stuff too but I expect sit outside of the main subscriber demographic.

Ben Jk

1,651 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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InformationSuperHighway said:
ZX10R NIN said:
honda_exige said:
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.

I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?

I'd say he knew exactly what he was buying & how much he'd make in content, he's not stupid around a pound note so knows it's not going to ever be made to run.
Agreed, and the longer he makes his viewers all think there is a 'chance'.. they'll stay hooked.

It has been a simulator for the last 15 years... Tim is really into sim racing... it's going to stay a sim racer.
The responses from “Shmee 150” to comments on YouTube make it clear he/they know it will never run but are trying to keep the hope alive in the viewer base as long as possible. Not surprised either tbh. Kerching!

CharlesElliott

2,022 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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Who is 'Gary'? Gary Anderson from Jordan F1 / Jaguar etc.? Or Gary.....F1 expert on Facebook?

Quite an important difference.

Ben Jk

1,651 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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CharlesElliott said:
Who is 'Gary'? Gary Anderson from Jordan F1 / Jaguar etc.? Or Gary.....F1 expert on Facebook?

Quite an important difference.
F1 expert onnFB etc. I think

Bubba Zanetti

691 posts

149 months

Monday 3rd January 2022
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It's probably more of a car than that joke of a Zenvo he is claiming to be buying.

North West Tom

11,533 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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Bubba Zanetti said:
It's probably more of a car than that joke of a Zenvo he is claiming to be buying.
Ah yeah, the "biggest thing to ever happen on the Shmee150 Youtube channel", which everyone's already forgotten about.

InformationSuperHighway

6,120 posts

186 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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North West Tom said:
Bubba Zanetti said:
It's probably more of a car than that joke of a Zenvo he is claiming to be buying.
Ah yeah, the "biggest thing to ever happen on the Shmee150 Youtube channel", which everyone's already forgotten about.
The constant churn of cars now is looking increasing desperate. He’s clearly stuck chasing the algorithm and unlike STG who (claims) to have stepped off to make content he wants to.

I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.

As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.

I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.

James_33

564 posts

68 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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InformationSuperHighway said:
North West Tom said:
Bubba Zanetti said:
It's probably more of a car than that joke of a Zenvo he is claiming to be buying.
Ah yeah, the "biggest thing to ever happen on the Shmee150 Youtube channel", which everyone's already forgotten about.
The constant churn of cars now is looking increasing desperate. He’s clearly stuck chasing the algorithm and unlike STG who (claims) to have stepped off to make content he wants to.

I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.

As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.

I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.
I stopped watching his videos a while ago now, i am going back a bit, but i think it was an interview he did with someone from fifth gear (could be wrong) where he more or less admitted in a indirect way that his on screen persona is basically Shmee150 an that off camera he's very different and that every single purchase he makes he has a plan for in terms of the brand.

Just seemed all a bit too clinical and fake for me as opposed to someone who buys a car and has genuine enthusiasm about it, as others have said with this "F1 car" he knew exactly what he was doing when he bought this and his target audience will take it all in.

pquinn

7,167 posts

48 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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Chasing the algorithm might generate numbers but inevitably leads to something popular with a horde of morons and no brand value outside that.


Retro_Jim

389 posts

53 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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On a similar vein I worked for Volkswagen Racing UK on undergrad placement, we ended up looking after the Seat BTCC collection after they pulled out in 2008. They had a few show shells that had full cages and chassis modifications including brakes/ brake lines and suspension. In the grand scheme of things its really not difficult for them to through some brake lines at it so it can sit somewhere and not roll away!

S11Steve

6,375 posts

186 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”



Challo

10,328 posts

157 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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InformationSuperHighway said:
The constant churn of cars now is looking increasing desperate. He’s clearly stuck chasing the algorithm and unlike STG who (claims) to have stepped off to make content he wants to.

I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.

As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.

I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.
I said similar on an interview with STG. He knows what works for Youtube and what gets him views and ad revenue. I think he mentions a large portion of his income is outside of YT and working with brands and sponsorship deals.


honda_exige

6,084 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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James_33 said:
I stopped watching his videos a while ago now, i am going back a bit, but i think it was an interview he did with someone from fifth gear (could be wrong) where he more or less admitted in a indirect way that his on screen persona is basically Shmee150 an that off camera he's very different and that every single purchase he makes he has a plan for in terms of the brand.

Just seemed all a bit too clinical and fake for me as opposed to someone who buys a car and has genuine enthusiasm about it, as others have said with this "F1 car" he knew exactly what he was doing when he bought this and his target audience will take it all in.
I think it was a bit of a Gerald Ratner moment in that you could see there was no passion in it.

It's interesting that Harry Metcalfe gets 50% of Shmee's monthly views from only 4 videos a month as opposed to Shmee's 28 or so.

Automotive YouTube has moved way past the 'I'm buying a Car, watch me spec it' stuff of 3/4 yrs ago but it seems Shmee is stuck there.

All the most successful YT auto channels (that aren't review channels) now have some element of modifying cars or buying old cars and doing interesting things with them.

It's a shame that the people behind DDE are so odious to watch (as a Brit) as the projects they have are crazy interesting.

Flame spitting twin turbo 1000bhp Ferrari F12 anyone?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=10800&v=Sl4OOO9w...

Digga

40,463 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th January 2022
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honda_exige said:
I think it was a bit of a Gerald Ratner moment in that you could see there was no passion in it.
Sad but true. Not knocking Shmee, some of his videos have been very good, but the whole 'buying a car' bullst infinity loop and admitting to purely chasing the algo is a bit unfortunate.

honda_exige said:
It's interesting that Harry Metcalfe gets 50% of Shmee's monthly views from only 4 videos a month as opposed to Shmee's 28 or so.
IMHO deservedly so. I occasionally find my self shouting at Harry's videos for him to move on a bit quicker, but there is no doubt his reviews are thorough and communicate a lot of facts and opinions. As a GT3 owner, I've seen the (mild) controversy his recent 992 GT3 review has caused on that corner of PH and I have to say the review was excellent. Granted some actual owners disagree with him on some points regarding handling, but he played a straight bat in terms of describing the car he was given, as he found it.