Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)
Discussion
pquinn said:
As for the show car - it's a display toy, always was and always will be. Sort of fun if you've got space to spare but mostly pointless - shiny mechanical bits make better decorations.
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.waynecyclist said:
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people. I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
Ben Jk said:
Tbf the company he has got it from are very reputable. A lot of celebs/sports people have them for the same reason. If I had a highly desirable property or was a person more at risk of theft/attack then I would probable have one too. Cost upwards of £30k I believe? Not really “council as fk”. It’s a highly trained protection dog not a status dog.
Apologies. I'm comparing it to the untrained dangerous breed dogs seen on any dodgey estate. Still looks pretty scarey though !Edited by Ben Jk on Monday 3rd January 14:32
honda_exige said:
waynecyclist said:
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people. I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
honda_exige said:
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.
I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
I'd say he knew exactly what he was buying & how much he'd make in content, he's not stupid around a pound note so knows it's not going to ever be made to run.I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
ZX10R NIN said:
honda_exige said:
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.
I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
I'd say he knew exactly what he was buying & how much he'd make in content, he's not stupid around a pound note so knows it's not going to ever be made to run.I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
It has been a simulator for the last 15 years... Tim is really into sim racing... it's going to stay a sim racer.
waynecyclist said:
pquinn said:
As for the show car - it's a display toy, always was and always will be. Sort of fun if you've got space to spare but mostly pointless - shiny mechanical bits make better decorations.
The comments on YouTube from people that do not have a clue are bonkers, someone was saying as it has brake lines it must have been a race chassis.InformationSuperHighway said:
ZX10R NIN said:
honda_exige said:
It's crazy. We don't even know that they are brake lines, Shmee isn't exactly the mlst mechanically minded of people.
I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
I'd say he knew exactly what he was buying & how much he'd make in content, he's not stupid around a pound note so knows it's not going to ever be made to run.I'm not an expert but I have a very hard time believing that a race spec F1 car would be built with externally mounted brake lines as in the video... just ripe for being cut by any random piece of debris flicked up on track. Even more so mounted in a way where the movement of the suspension arm is constantly pulling and pushing it, rubbing it on the chassis. Wouldn't it be run internally though the wide upper arm?
It has been a simulator for the last 15 years... Tim is really into sim racing... it's going to stay a sim racer.
North West Tom said:
Bubba Zanetti said:
It's probably more of a car than that joke of a Zenvo he is claiming to be buying.
Ah yeah, the "biggest thing to ever happen on the Shmee150 Youtube channel", which everyone's already forgotten about.I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.
As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.
I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.
InformationSuperHighway said:
North West Tom said:
Bubba Zanetti said:
It's probably more of a car than that joke of a Zenvo he is claiming to be buying.
Ah yeah, the "biggest thing to ever happen on the Shmee150 Youtube channel", which everyone's already forgotten about.I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.
As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.
I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.
Just seemed all a bit too clinical and fake for me as opposed to someone who buys a car and has genuine enthusiasm about it, as others have said with this "F1 car" he knew exactly what he was doing when he bought this and his target audience will take it all in.
On a similar vein I worked for Volkswagen Racing UK on undergrad placement, we ended up looking after the Seat BTCC collection after they pulled out in 2008. They had a few show shells that had full cages and chassis modifications including brakes/ brake lines and suspension. In the grand scheme of things its really not difficult for them to through some brake lines at it so it can sit somewhere and not roll away!
InformationSuperHighway said:
The constant churn of cars now is looking increasing desperate. He’s clearly stuck chasing the algorithm and unlike STG who (claims) to have stepped off to make content he wants to.
I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.
As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.
I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.
I said similar on an interview with STG. He knows what works for Youtube and what gets him views and ad revenue. I think he mentions a large portion of his income is outside of YT and working with brands and sponsorship deals. I am caring less and less about each video because I know he cares less about the audience and more about the algorithm.
As for the cars, I simply cannot appreciate any of them as their stories are dying and merging into a blur. I can’t remember what’s coming or going, what I care about, what I don’t and I’ve totally lost interest in his channel.
I’m sure he cares / boo hoo etc.. but I was an avid watcher for years.
James_33 said:
I stopped watching his videos a while ago now, i am going back a bit, but i think it was an interview he did with someone from fifth gear (could be wrong) where he more or less admitted in a indirect way that his on screen persona is basically Shmee150 an that off camera he's very different and that every single purchase he makes he has a plan for in terms of the brand.
Just seemed all a bit too clinical and fake for me as opposed to someone who buys a car and has genuine enthusiasm about it, as others have said with this "F1 car" he knew exactly what he was doing when he bought this and his target audience will take it all in.
I think it was a bit of a Gerald Ratner moment in that you could see there was no passion in it.Just seemed all a bit too clinical and fake for me as opposed to someone who buys a car and has genuine enthusiasm about it, as others have said with this "F1 car" he knew exactly what he was doing when he bought this and his target audience will take it all in.
It's interesting that Harry Metcalfe gets 50% of Shmee's monthly views from only 4 videos a month as opposed to Shmee's 28 or so.
Automotive YouTube has moved way past the 'I'm buying a Car, watch me spec it' stuff of 3/4 yrs ago but it seems Shmee is stuck there.
All the most successful YT auto channels (that aren't review channels) now have some element of modifying cars or buying old cars and doing interesting things with them.
It's a shame that the people behind DDE are so odious to watch (as a Brit) as the projects they have are crazy interesting.
Flame spitting twin turbo 1000bhp Ferrari F12 anyone?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=10800&v=Sl4OOO9w...
honda_exige said:
I think it was a bit of a Gerald Ratner moment in that you could see there was no passion in it.
Sad but true. Not knocking Shmee, some of his videos have been very good, but the whole 'buying a car' bullst infinity loop and admitting to purely chasing the algo is a bit unfortunate.honda_exige said:
It's interesting that Harry Metcalfe gets 50% of Shmee's monthly views from only 4 videos a month as opposed to Shmee's 28 or so.
IMHO deservedly so. I occasionally find my self shouting at Harry's videos for him to move on a bit quicker, but there is no doubt his reviews are thorough and communicate a lot of facts and opinions. As a GT3 owner, I've seen the (mild) controversy his recent 992 GT3 review has caused on that corner of PH and I have to say the review was excellent. Granted some actual owners disagree with him on some points regarding handling, but he played a straight bat in terms of describing the car he was given, as he found it.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff