Speed with Guy Martin - new series

[ribiero]

Lordbenny said:

Try doing it under 10 minutes in a 60bhp Citroen AX diesel....now THIS is an achievement!!!

https://youtu.be/mBFjHjm0O5M

Edited to add.....it did take him 7 years!

^^ that video is legendary in my eyes, it's up there with the sock story at LeMans, it's a must watch/read.

[mat205125]

chrisga said:

The Surveyor said:

freddytin said:

Janluke said:

Its always possible to pick holes in the details of this type of program but for me it was a great piece of Sunday evening TV in a sea of dross

Simply This ^^^^^

Well done Ch4 and Guy , keeping me thoroughly entertained for nearly90 min. It turns out that you can please some of the people , some of the time.

Agreed, a great bit of Sunday night telly.

Yep, good Sunday night TV, of course you could pick holes in it but it was an easy watch. Fast cars/vans and GM, whats not to like. I'm sure it was mainly for the viewers but the bloke explaining apexes to a fairly successful TT racer kind of tickled me somewhat though. At least the quickest motorbike bloke round the nurburgring acknowledged Guys "previous".

Another supporter of the above sentiment.

Robmarriott said:

Not a bad watch.

Interesting that they were running normal road tyres rather than a proper performance tyre and they didn’t seem to spend much time on setup, which showed up in the brake bias issue.

I reckon they’ve deliberately left some time in it so they can go back if and when someone goes quicker.

I thought this through the programme, however concluded that the attempt was more in the spirit of a good TV programme, than an out and out record attempt.

There is huge amounts of pace to be found in the van through suspension travel, brakes, and tyres, than winding up the power. The latter, however, is more within the understanding of the general public, and the obvious need for an LSD at the first lap of Cadwell wouldn't mean a lot to most people.

I reckon that there is a sub-10 minute lap in a boost-increased transit with the factory engine, in the standard position, if a BTCC corner were bolted onto a suitably modded chassis. The relocation of the motor was mainly for the TV show, and then to pull the van out for crowd pleasing smokey displays at the likes of Goodwood.

[EagleMoto4-2]

Enjoyed the program, like I do all Guy Martin stuff. But why turn up to Bonneville and not have the correct type of wheels required for getting optimum traction on the salt. I know it makes for good drama, but if they had gone there prepared he might have bagged the speed record there and then. The result was they probably compromised the setup of the van in their attempt to get both records at the ring.
Then Guy explains the loss of performance from having a passenger on the lap record at the ring was more than made up for knowledge he has of the ring, so why bother practising driving the track every day on a simulator, and paying attention when they had a look round the track before the attempt. 70+ kg is a lot of weight to carry in a vehicle that is already quite heavy.
It made me smile a bit when Guy also went on about it being a proper job and no messing about with checking everything on the van prior to the run, only to have an oil line fail and spray the outside of the engine that started the fire.

[Melman Giraffe]

ribiero said:

Lordbenny said:

Try doing it under 10 minutes in a 60bhp Citroen AX diesel....now THIS is an achievement!!!

https://youtu.be/mBFjHjm0O5M

Edited to add.....it did take him 7 years!

^^ that video is legendary in my eyes, it's up there with the sock story at LeMans, it's a must watch/read.

sock story at LeMans? please explain

[FourWheelDrift]

5 miles at Bonneville was too much anyway, as he said earlier Brundle recorded 176mph on Silverstone's Hangar Straight. He could have gone to Bruntingthorpe or Elvington.

I like the original Ford Supervan which was a Mk1 Transit merged with a GT40 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg6WdboK1nY

Jjust ignore the usual cameraman hanging off the side as it drives slowly with overdubbed sound effects bit. We have indicator left on (check), lovely sound (check) and lifting of the front wheel (check)

[Ver]

Melman Giraffe said:

ribiero said:

Lordbenny said:

Try doing it under 10 minutes in a 60bhp Citroen AX diesel....now THIS is an achievement!!!

https://youtu.be/mBFjHjm0O5M

Edited to add.....it did take him 7 years!

^^ that video is legendary in my eyes, it's up there with the sock story at LeMans, it's a must watch/read.

sock story at LeMans? please explain

Nineth post down.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[e30m3Mark]

PhillipM said:

DS240 said:

That was ‘lucky’ those custom brake pads appeared. What’s the chances. They repeated it over and over, so really lucky, and definitely not inserted drama.

Whoever made those first brake discs wanted shooting, taking the groove right to the edge of the disc.

I thought Compbrake did the brakes for this van?

[RB Will]

FourWheelDrift said:

5 miles at Bonneville was too much anyway, as he said earlier Brundle recorded 176mph on Silverstone's Hangar Straight.

What is the source for this speed record?
It sounds pretty high to me.
Seeing as guy with 700ish bhp could only crack 160something after miles.
I have been on track at Silverstone in a 750bhp Nissan GTR and we were doing 168 at the end of Hangar straight so would be amazed at something transit shaped out doing that by a fair bit

[FourWheelDrift]

RB Will said:

What is the source for this speed record?
It sounds pretty high to me.
Seeing as guy with 700ish bhp could only crack 160something after miles.
I have been on track at Silverstone in a 750bhp Nissan GTR and we were doing 168 at the end of Hangar straight so would be amazed at something transit shaped out doing that by a fair bit

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...

[AlexS]

RB Will said:

What is the source for this speed record?
It sounds pretty high to me.
Seeing as guy with 700ish bhp could only crack 160something after miles.
I have been on track at Silverstone in a 750bhp Nissan GTR and we were doing 168 at the end of Hangar straight so would be amazed at something transit shaped out doing that by a fair bit

It was only 70% Transit sized though.

[ptr997]

e30m3Mark said:

I thought Compbrake did the brakes for this van?

Well, if they did, he desrves another medal for even getting in it !... bravery along the lines of his IOM TT efforts LOL

[thegreenhell]

AlexS said:

RB Will said:

What is the source for this speed record?
It sounds pretty high to me.
Seeing as guy with 700ish bhp could only crack 160something after miles.
I have been on track at Silverstone in a 750bhp Nissan GTR and we were doing 168 at the end of Hangar straight so would be amazed at something transit shaped out doing that by a fair bit

It was only 70% Transit sized though.

And the track layout was different, with a quicker entry onto the Hangar straight and a much quicker corner at the end of it.

[RB Will]

Interesting. I see Hangar straight was effectively longer back in the 80s too as the corners leading up to it were different.

[turbomoped]

I think they knew they would have that record in the bag quite easily. Bit like when someone spots
a catagory at bonneville and beats the previous record by doing 60mph.
Lots of pretend bits to add to the drama otherwise it would all have seemed matter of fact and dull.
Odd scheduling as they normally put it on a f1 day.

[dukeboy749r]

Ver said:

Melman Giraffe said:

ribiero said:

Lordbenny said:

Try doing it under 10 minutes in a 60bhp Citroen AX diesel....now THIS is an achievement!!!

https://youtu.be/mBFjHjm0O5M

Edited to add.....it did take him 7 years!

^^ that video is legendary in my eyes, it's up there with the sock story at LeMans, it's a must watch/read.

sock story at LeMans? please explain

Nineth post down.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

That sock post is sheer brilliance in words

[PhillipM]

ptr997 said:

Well, if they did, he desrves another medal for even getting in it !... bravery along the lines of his IOM TT efforts LOL

Well, now we know why the discs st themselves.

[anonymous-user]

Nyphur said:

Man in heavily modified 700bhp mid engined van beats record set by man in 150bhp diesel rental van.

Shocking.

who's going to tip off the DVLA that Guys running round in an illegal van? ;-)

(Cut chassis, non original engine, transmission and rear suspension, nowhere near enough points to keep the original reg surely??)

[Pericoloso]

Lordbenny said:

Why don’t ford just rock up in this an annihilate the record? I’m sure one of the supervans will be sitting in a museum/collection somewhere and could be made ‘Green Hell’ compatible without much effort?

p

Video:
https://youtu.be/83dDHKFeWcM

Edited by Lordbenny on Monday 5th November 12:29

That van is in the Dagenham collection.
Don't think it gets out much.
It's also got a F3000 engine I believe,significantly less powerful than its original lump.

[Jonesy23]

Max_Torque said:

who's going to tip off the DVLA that Guys running round in an illegal van? ;-)

(Cut chassis, non original engine, transmission and rear suspension, nowhere near enough points to keep the original reg surely??)

I don't think it will ever go on a public road again...

It doesn't have any tax or MOT and hasn't since it was trashed in 2015. Really the paperwork needs to catch up and the plate go in the bin.

[Randy Winkman]

Some of the crashes they showed were bad. Especially the one where the car seemed to go tail over nose then do a few rolls for good measure.