Harry's Garage - YouTube

[carl_w]

gareth h said:

I’m buying mine piecemeal

Johnny Cash did that with a Cadillac

[soxboy]

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

[E90_M3Ross]

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

An interesting question, but presumably it comes down to the fact that the Theon has bespoke manufactured parts.

[CLK-GTR]

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

Because its a Porsche, there's a lot more work going on, and most crucially these things are the current must have accessory in any recently IPO'd tech company.

Edited by CLK-GTR on Wednesday 3rd April 13:40

[DonkeyApple]

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

Engine, rust, paint and a bit of interior trim v a project where most of the panels are replaced with CF and the interior completely redone also with replacement switchgear along with various bespoke parts.

Very different kettle of fish really.

What would be interesting is how they avoid a Q plate in the U.K.

'Keep the original registration number
Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.'

The key to a restomod is to retain those 5 core points which I can't see how this does?

[E90_M3Ross]

DonkeyApple said:

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

Engine, rust, paint and a bit of interior trim v a project where most of the panels are replaced with CF and the interior completely redone also with replacement switchgear along with various bespoke parts.

Very different kettle of fish really.

What would be interesting is how they avoid a Q plate in the U.K.

'Keep the original registration number
Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.'

The key to a restomod is to retain those 5 core points which I can't see how this does?

It was on dealer plates, and going to a private plate, so it may have been a Q plate, although who knows (well, Theon, I hope )

[Sway]

DonkeyApple said:

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

Engine, rust, paint and a bit of interior trim v a project where most of the panels are replaced with CF and the interior completely redone also with replacement switchgear along with various bespoke parts.

Very different kettle of fish really.

What would be interesting is how they avoid a Q plate in the U.K.

'Keep the original registration number
Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.'

The key to a restomod is to retain those 5 core points which I can't see how this does?

Little different, as it's a rebuilt car instead of a new kit build:



Suspension and engine are both 'original vehicle' even if uprated. Steering rack too most likely.

[Speed 3]

DonkeyApple said:

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

Engine, rust, paint and a bit of interior trim v a project where most of the panels are replaced with CF and the interior completely redone also with replacement switchgear along with various bespoke parts.

Very different kettle of fish really.

What would be interesting is how they avoid a Q plate in the U.K.

'Keep the original registration number
Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.'

The key to a restomod is to retain those 5 core points which I can't see how this does?

There’ll be loads of examples where that scoring hasn’t been adhered to in the strictest sense, depends where you draw the line. At this price level an build professionalism I doubt they wouldn’t have sought pre-clearance with DVSA to nail any risk of a Q plate that would devalue it by a factor of 10.

It will interesting to see what reg Jonny Smith’s street sleeper Allegro comes out with - now that is a serious amount of chassis and body modification.

[AstonZagato]

E90_M3Ross said:

It was on dealer plates, and going to a private plate, so it may have been a Q plate, although who knows (well, Theon, I hope )

You can't put a private plate on a Q-plate vehicle AFAIK

[WPA]

AstonZagato said:

E90_M3Ross said:

It was on dealer plates, and going to a private plate, so it may have been a Q plate, although who knows (well, Theon, I hope )

You can't put a private plate on a Q-plate vehicle AFAIK

You are correct, Q plate cannot be transferred

[E90_M3Ross]

WPA said:

AstonZagato said:

E90_M3Ross said:

It was on dealer plates, and going to a private plate, so it may have been a Q plate, although who knows (well, Theon, I hope )

You can't put a private plate on a Q-plate vehicle AFAIK

You are correct, Q plate cannot be transferred

That I never knew! Interesting, thanks chaps

[Doofus]

E90_M3Ross said:

WPA said:

AstonZagato said:

E90_M3Ross said:

It was on dealer plates, and going to a private plate, so it may have been a Q plate, although who knows (well, Theon, I hope )

You can't put a private plate on a Q-plate vehicle AFAIK

You are correct, Q plate cannot be transferred

That I never knew! Interesting, thanks chaps

It's why there's such a stigma around Q plates.

[robsco]

Speed 3 said:

Not getting the angst for the oil filter cover, in my old Tuscan one thing that drove me mad was the plastic cigarette lighter from a Jag. It jarred against all the bespoke TVR aluminium so I got one made up in alloy.

Sorry to be a pedant, but the Tuscan did have an alloy and brass effect cigarette lighter as standard. Someone must have changed yours for a plastic one before you took ownership.

[DonkeyApple]

Doofus said:

It's why there's such a stigma around Q plates.

It's a weird stigma at that, when you think about it. It ought to be a badge of honour to show you've created something different from something generic. Even kit cars, I've never completely understood why someone would build from scratch, something they specifically desire and then be fearful of a letter that may imply it wasn't something they'd created themselves or had created uniquely for them?

I kind of get it with Bugattis and Bentleys as the owners often genuinely believe they have bought an original car rather than a kit constructed around a single part. . But something like this Porsche ought to be proud to run a Q plate in another universe?

[cerb4.5lee]

Doofus said:

E90_M3Ross said:

WPA said:

AstonZagato said:

E90_M3Ross said:

It was on dealer plates, and going to a private plate, so it may have been a Q plate, although who knows (well, Theon, I hope )

You can't put a private plate on a Q-plate vehicle AFAIK

You are correct, Q plate cannot be transferred

That I never knew! Interesting, thanks chaps

It's why there's such a stigma around Q plates.

All this chat about Q plates takes me back to the 1992 RS2000 I had. I got it for a good price because it had previously been stolen/recovered and rebuilt. It is still the only car that I've actually had with Recaro seats as well.

[thegreenhell]

DonkeyApple said:

Doofus said:

It's why there's such a stigma around Q plates.

It's a weird stigma at that, when you think about it. It ought to be a badge of honour to show you've created something different from something generic. Even kit cars, I've never completely understood why someone would build from scratch, something they specifically desire and then be fearful of a letter that may imply it wasn't something they'd created themselves or had created uniquely for them?

I kind of get it with Bugattis and Bentleys as the owners often genuinely believe they have bought an original car rather than a kit constructed around a single part. . But something like this Porsche ought to be proud to run a Q plate in another universe?

It doesn't indicate that you've created anything. It just means that your car, or major parts of your car, are of uncertain origin. And once your car has got a Q you can never get rid of it, like a tattoo on the forehead.

[Doofus]

thegreenhell said:

DonkeyApple said:

Doofus said:

It's why there's such a stigma around Q plates.

It's a weird stigma at that, when you think about it. It ought to be a badge of honour to show you've created something different from something generic. Even kit cars, I've never completely understood why someone would build from scratch, something they specifically desire and then be fearful of a letter that may imply it wasn't something they'd created themselves or had created uniquely for them?

I kind of get it with Bugattis and Bentleys as the owners often genuinely believe they have bought an original car rather than a kit constructed around a single part. . But something like this Porsche ought to be proud to run a Q plate in another universe?

It doesn't indicate that you've created anything. It just means that your car, or major parts of your car, are of uncertain origin. And once your car has got a Q you can never get rid of it, like a tattoo on the forehead.

It also indicates that your replica Ferrari isn't a real Ferrari.

[Speed 3]

robsco said:

Speed 3 said:

Not getting the angst for the oil filter cover, in my old Tuscan one thing that drove me mad was the plastic cigarette lighter from a Jag. It jarred against all the bespoke TVR aluminium so I got one made up in alloy.

Sorry to be a pedant, but the Tuscan did have an alloy and brass effect cigarette lighter as standard. Someone must have changed yours for a plastic one before you took ownership.

Mine had the rare brass delet option from new, it had all aluminium alloy switchgear. They must have cheapskated that bit.

Edited by Speed 3 on Wednesday 3rd April 20:30

[stanlow45]

Just catching up on this week’s video.

Harry said:

Is it worth three quarters of a million?

While thrashing it into a sharp turn.

Brilliant, you could not make it up.

[DonkeyApple]

Sway said:

DonkeyApple said:

soxboy said:

I appreciate it’s arguably a different concept, but if Harry paid £100k on getting his Jaguar XJC done how can the Theon be another £500k+ on top?

Engine, rust, paint and a bit of interior trim v a project where most of the panels are replaced with CF and the interior completely redone also with replacement switchgear along with various bespoke parts.

Very different kettle of fish really.

What would be interesting is how they avoid a Q plate in the U.K.

'Keep the original registration number
Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below if you want to keep the original registration number. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.'

The key to a restomod is to retain those 5 core points which I can't see how this does?

Little different, as it's a rebuilt car instead of a new kit build:



Suspension and engine are both 'original vehicle' even if uprated. Steering rack too most likely.

I can't see how such a modified restomod that's been reclothed in CF can meet these requirements easily?

For example, away from a ladder on frame construction the roof forms an integral part of the structure so changing it for CF when there is no factory/oem reference for doing so arguably puts you straight into Q plate territory?