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Caddyshack

11,016 posts

208 months

Sunday 7th April
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540TORQUES said:
Leithen said:
What happened with the leaking carbs?
Probably just sticking/weeping float valves, carbs dont like standing unused.
I’ve said before that I would have a classic like this on throttle bodies, you get the noise, similar overall power but much better reliability and the drivability is way better but I know Harry rejected that on the Zagato.

Edited by Caddyshack on Sunday 7th April 22:00

DuncanM

6,219 posts

281 months

Monday 8th April
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Caddyshack said:
I’ve said before that I would have a classic like this on throttle bodies, you get the noise, similar overall power but much better reliability and the drivability is way better but I know Harry rejected that on the Zagato.

Edited by Caddyshack on Sunday 7th April 22:00
Agree, original parts can be boxed, and kept for originality when selling, throttle bodies for driving.

W124

1,588 posts

140 months

Monday 8th April
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These cars remind me of the huge SSL consoles we used to use for recording/tracking back in the day. Fantastic things - but nobody was ever really 100% sure if they were ever working properly. Eve the people who built and installed them.

Wills2

23,214 posts

177 months

Monday 8th April
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AnotherClarkey said:
It seems to be possible to spend eye watering amounts with experts and repeatedly end up with a not quite sorted car.
I think we have to mention that these are Italian cars built in the 70s, quoted power figures will have been whatever they wanted them to be, it's probably prudent to operate a don't ask don't tell policy as a restorer, or you'll be chasing shadows spending time and money trying to hit a target hp that never existed other than in the mind of the guy who dreamt it up.

It will be interesting to see if a full system will give the full 350, but I doubt they're are going to find that many ponies as they were probably never put in the field to start with.






Venisonpie

3,331 posts

84 months

Monday 8th April
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Wills2 said:
I think we have to mention that these are Italian cars built in the 70s, quoted power figures will have been whatever they wanted them to be, it's probably prudent to operate a don't ask don't tell policy as a restorer, or you'll be chasing shadows spending time and money trying to hit a target hp that never existed other than in the mind of the guy who dreamt it up.

It will be interesting to see if a full system will give the full 350, but I doubt they're are going to find that many ponies as they were probably never put in the field to start with.
I think the vid mentions its a 4 litre iteration of the v12 which I'd back to make 300bhp once the exhaust is sorted, 350 and it would be impressive. They also mention about bench testing motors, however installing them in a way that still realises their potential is another thing altogether.

Wills2

23,214 posts

177 months

Monday 8th April
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Venisonpie said:
Wills2 said:
I think we have to mention that these are Italian cars built in the 70s, quoted power figures will have been whatever they wanted them to be, it's probably prudent to operate a don't ask don't tell policy as a restorer, or you'll be chasing shadows spending time and money trying to hit a target hp that never existed other than in the mind of the guy who dreamt it up.

It will be interesting to see if a full system will give the full 350, but I doubt they're are going to find that many ponies as they were probably never put in the field to start with.
I think the vid mentions its a 4 litre iteration of the v12 which I'd back to make 300bhp once the exhaust is sorted, 350 and it would be impressive. They also mention about bench testing motors, however installing them in a way that still realises their potential is another thing altogether.
Yep heard all of Iain's gentle pushing towards the fact that the 350hp number is a bit aspirational, will be interesting to see the outcome and the trade off between mid range and top end.







LeighW

4,455 posts

190 months

Monday 8th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
My BiL runs the local Poweflow franchise and has done for atleast the last 25 years. He could knock up a great system for that for under a couple of grand. All nicely tigged stainless.

Will be interesting to see how much it ends up costing Harry, if we find out.
Yep, I had a full stainless twin exhaust from the headers back custom made for my Firebird for under £900. The admittedly more complicated system for that Espada still shouldn't cost the earth, unless 'I saw you coming' tax is applied to old Italian exotica.

RicksAlfas

13,432 posts

246 months

Monday 8th April
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basherX said:
Leithen said:
What happened with the leaking carbs?
Glad it wasn’t just me- I thought I must have missed something. Don’t think he covered that at all (?)
Harry mentioned it in a reply on Youtube:

@harrysgarage
15 hours ago
The fuel leak turned out to be a tiny bit of debris in one of the carburettor float needle valves. It was so minor and was quickly discovered a few weeks earlier, we forgot to mention it.

G Thang

302 posts

30 months

Monday 8th April
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LeighW said:
Yep, I had a full stainless twin exhaust from the headers back custom made for my Firebird for under £900. The admittedly more complicated system for that Espada still shouldn't cost the earth, unless 'I saw you coming' tax is applied to old Italian exotica.
...or to Harry.
Personally I'd try a 12 pipe straight through system. Might not work, but should sound like the dog's...

G Thang

302 posts

30 months

Monday 8th April
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RicksAlfas said:
basherX said:
Leithen said:
What happened with the leaking carbs?
Glad it wasn’t just me- I thought I must have missed something. Don’t think he covered that at all (?)
Harry mentioned it in a reply on Youtube:

@harrysgarage
15 hours ago
The fuel leak turned out to be a tiny bit of debris in one of the carburettor float needle valves. It was so minor and was quickly discovered a few weeks earlier, we forgot to mention it.
A common occurrence that actually wasn't worth mentioning.

614-HSO

1,347 posts

50 months

Monday 8th April
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I mean Harry isn't going to get much profit from crops this year either, so I hope Iain's giving him a bit of a discount on labour.

skylarking808

815 posts

88 months

Tuesday 9th April
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Whatever happenss Harry has got a top notch engine rebuild, so his Espada will be a lot better in terms of output than most others.
Looking forward to the dyno run with a larger exhaust.

DonkeyApple

56,015 posts

171 months

Tuesday 9th April
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skylarking808 said:
Whatever happenss Harry has got a top notch engine rebuild, so his Espada will be a lot better in terms of output than most others.
Looking forward to the dyno run with a larger exhaust.
Possibly the first owner of an Espada to want to wring out the top end and to notice something felt like it was missing. By all accounts Lambo never tuned these cars to deliver lots of top end. It's not exactly uncommon to ask someone to build you a superb engine for your car and to then notice the peripheries which were previously fine to be somewhat lacking after.

But where there's blame there's a claim so first port of call must be injury lawyers 4u and give them a twofer with the grit in the carb. One mustn't waste the oppo for a new caravan.

Dr Interceptor

7,836 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th April
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I know its a slightly different league, but I had the same when I had a new engine built for my Beetle... we went from a very asthmatic 1300cc single port to a 1641cc twin port with a 110 cam and twin webers.

The standard exhaust was refitted as it was fine, but it didn't breathe well so it was quickly swapped for a larger bore vintage speed exhaust.

614-HSO

1,347 posts

50 months

Sunday 14th April
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Harry's latest video on the 750S, he seems to like it and said he would even buy it.

Are McLarens still plagued with quality control issues, poor electronics, mechanical problems, incompetent dealers, useless warranty and huge depreciation?

Not that I am in the market for a car like this, but if I were, then from history McLaren would be at the bottom of my list, yes the car may be great, dynamic and fast, but it's no good if it spends most of the time at the dealer being fixed.

h0b0

7,748 posts

198 months

Sunday 14th April
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614-HSO said:
Harry's latest video on the 750S, he seems to like it and said he would even buy it.

Are McLarens still plagued with quality control issues, poor electronics, mechanical problems, incompetent dealers, useless warranty and huge depreciation?

Not that I am in the market for a car like this, but if I were, then from history McLaren would be at the bottom of my list, yes the car may be great, dynamic and fast, but it's no good if it spends most of the time at the dealer being fixed.
These factors clearly don’t bother Harry. He has been a Range Rover man for years.

ArgonautX

195 posts

53 months

Sunday 14th April
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Great video on the 750s.

A car that is very accomplished, but doesn't do anything for me for one simple reason - how/where to enjoy 750 hp of performance on the normal roads? It's just too quick. What I'd like McLaren to do is strip those 2 turbos from the V8 and do a naturally aspirated car with around 500ish hp. Than I'd be interested. Surely with their low production numbers they could do it without incurring the wrath of legislators.

number2

4,355 posts

189 months

Sunday 14th April
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h0b0 said:
These factors clearly don’t bother Harry. He has been a Range Rover man for years.
Not watched the video yet, but thanks for that comment biggrin.

Venisonpie

3,331 posts

84 months

Sunday 14th April
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Christ, that's some motor. 100mph in under 5 seconds is alarming. Noice.

JeremyH5

1,600 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th April
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Venisonpie said:
Christ, that's some motor. 100mph in under 5 seconds is alarming. Noice.
Very! Interesting that Harry had to peddle it hard to keep up with the Alpine A110s with local knowledge though, unless I’ve misunderstood what he meant!