BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022

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carlo996

6,073 posts

23 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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TheDeuce said:
I dyed his feet blue,
Perhaps Mr Tyron should have expressed his love of feet and watercolours?

Johnspex

4,355 posts

186 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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carlo996 said:
Johnspex said:
Ill disguised envy is all it is. That and all the critics think they know more and can drive better.
This also applies to RH. Everyone puts the knife in him because he's rich, successful, good looking, travelled and has a Good looking family and a lovely house. All the critics are probably sitting in the bedroom of their mother's house in their vest and pants saying to themselves' I can do it better than him'.
Pure envy.
It’s actually called, an opinion. Pure envy rofl
You seem to have a lot of opinions posting approximately 200 times a month or about 6 or 7 times a day!
Nothing else to do?

carlo996

6,073 posts

23 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Johnspex said:
You seem to have a lot of opinions posting approximately 200 times a month or about 6 or 7 times a day!
Nothing else to do?
It's almost like a forum is a place made for that?

G Thang

302 posts

30 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Old top gear. Clarkson / Russel Bulgin / V. B. Henderson / Steve Berry / Quentin Wilson.

Only one of these pieces isn't like watching paint dry, IMHO.

https://youtu.be/P4hk0fbgk9g?si=FwB4Kuun9AeErEFF

Red9zero

7,127 posts

59 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Anyone else reading CH`s book. I'm only halfway through, but he has had a pop at PH (the forum) a few times already laugh

Boleros

229 posts

8 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Do tell!

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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How can anyone be as dense as to not realise that Clarkson is playing up to a character in the media?

All the anti-European stuff, the pretending not to know anything about cars, the laziness etc.. It's all just a caricature he's created.

I wonder if the same people shout at the TV when Emmerdale is on?

Red9zero

7,127 posts

59 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Boleros said:
Do tell!
"Contaminated by faceless gobstes" was one comment, then another about the "real nastiness of a place like PH" where someone copied a video that he had deleted from his website and threatened to release it. In other comments he does say that the actual website (rather than the forum) is very good.

thegreenhell

15,708 posts

221 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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He's not wrong, though is he. Apart from the bit about the rest of the website outside the forum being good.

Red9zero

7,127 posts

59 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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thegreenhell said:
He's not wrong, though is he. Apart from the bit about the rest of the website outside the forum being good.
I think he was mainly talking about back in the day when he was setting up Drive Nation and doing Chris Harris on Cars videos.

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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thegreenhell said:
He's not wrong, though is he. Apart from the bit about the rest of the website outside the forum being good.
General Gassing is basically a Facebook comments page full of middle-aged men complaining about "the state" of everything "these days" and the price of new cars. My favourite is the perennial clickbait from the PH team, in the shape of ads for wildly overpriced cars in the Classifieds. It gets the "How much????" gang absolutely frothing every single time. laugh

TheDeuce

22,338 posts

68 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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C70R said:
thegreenhell said:
He's not wrong, though is he. Apart from the bit about the rest of the website outside the forum being good.
General Gassing is basically a Facebook comments page full of middle-aged men complaining about "the state" of everything "these days" and the price of new cars. My favourite is the perennial clickbait from the PH team, in the shape of ads for wildly overpriced cars in the Classifieds. It gets the "How much????" gang absolutely frothing every single time. laugh
Yep yes

I post a fair bit in the EV sub forum and that's even better - all the bitter, mad old farts are in there complaining about how it's all just silly and far too expensive. It's funny the lengths people will go to in order to denigrate just about anything they can't have themselves. Not much brings out that trait in people to the extent cars/car envy does.



skwdenyer

16,714 posts

242 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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biggbn said:
coppice said:
biggbn said:
coppice said:
Spot on. I find his increasingly grumpy old man schtick tiresome (and I'm even bloody older! ) but the one thing Clarkson does really well is to write. He learned the hard way on a local paper, and his standard of English puts nearly all other motoring journalists to shame . No tired cliches (he avoids them like the plague -ha) , no dangling participles , no silly Americanisms (inside of , met with, 'likely' for 'probably', 'swap out' -ugh ) , just crisp , punchy and very funny prose .
Clarkson is, or maybe was, an above average writer bit ended up writing to a template. He'd rant on about a kitchen utensil, or a foreign holiday and then say, we'll that's a bit like the new Ford.....He found a formula that worked and stuck to it beyond the point of caricature. When he was in his pomp he was overshadowed by Bulgin and the older LJKS, Blain, Bishop, Fraser, Llewelin et al for me. They were the best of the best.


I can't disagree - I recognised Clarkson's USP long ago, and it was his ability to write very entertainingly about cars for an audience with only the most superficial interest in the subject. A trick also pulled off brilliantly by Drive to Survive - the show about F 1 for viewers who don't have much of a clue about it . Both are sugar rush treats .

Russell Bulgin was one of my very favourite motoring journalists - like Stephen Bayley he wrote from a cultural hinterland in which cars were only one aspect . I enjoyed the others hugely, none more than Setright - and if I didn't get the arcane reference or Latin maxim I'd look it up .

Other names I'd recommend are the late David E Davis and PJ O'Rourke , who had both that uniquley American laconic wit and punchy style.
O'Rourke was great. Another American from Car was Jamie Kitman who I really liked. I have found Bayley wonderful AND infuriatingly pompous in turns.
Wasn’t Kitman also manager of Meat Puppets, They Might Be Giants, and others? Certainly gave him a wider perspective!

skwdenyer

16,714 posts

242 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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G Thang said:
Old top gear. Clarkson / Russel Bulgin / V. B. Henderson / Steve Berry / Quentin Wilson.

Only one of these pieces isn't like watching paint dry, IMHO.

https://youtu.be/P4hk0fbgk9g?si=FwB4Kuun9AeErEFF
You’ve got to admire the risqué suggestive electric aerial and headlamp washer action to the soundtrack of Je T’Aime, however smile But “professionally tall” Bulgin didn’t really have the delivery for TV.

BunkMoreland

440 posts

9 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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C70R said:
How can anyone be as dense as to not realise that Clarkson is playing up to a character in the media?

All the anti-European stuff, the pretending not to know anything about cars, the laziness etc.. It's all just a caricature he's created.

I wonder if the same people shout at the TV when Emmerdale is on?
Its when he claims to not know anything about Football, but is a season ticket holder at Chelsea and has been spotted, in the stands at Uefa matches abroad that makes me chuckle. Clarkson knows his stuff. Same as May and Hammond do!


G Thang

302 posts

30 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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skwdenyer said:
You’ve got to admire the risqué suggestive electric aerial and headlamp washer action to the soundtrack of Je T’Aime, however smile But “professionally tall” Bulgin didn’t really have the delivery for TV.
It was just a bit Benny Hill for me. Not that Benny Hill wasn't great... in his own way.
The rest of the script wasn't particularly inspired either.

skwdenyer

16,714 posts

242 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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G Thang said:
skwdenyer said:
You’ve got to admire the risqué suggestive electric aerial and headlamp washer action to the soundtrack of Je T’Aime, however smile But “professionally tall” Bulgin didn’t really have the delivery for TV.
It was just a bit Benny Hill for me. Not that Benny Hill wasn't great... in his own way.
The rest of the script wasn't particularly inspired either.
The script was essentially cut-down standard Bulgin prose. I liked his writing. I’m not sure his script was too bad, but it needed delivering in a less deadpan, more arch way - think Jonathan Meades in his Ray Ban period, perhaps with a dash of Stephen Bailey smile And with less cutting-down; it felt dumbed-down, not well-pruned.

UTH

9,031 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Scabutz

7,748 posts

82 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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UTH said:
Saw that, wasnt sure if to post in here or the cricket thread. Good for Fred to get back involved.

Terry Winks

1,239 posts

15 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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So as predicted Top Gear will be “rested” for the foreseeable future.