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Lordbenny said:
I’ve spoken personally to Henry about the car!
My statement about the fact the car should be £100,000 has been taken out of context. The Research and Development cost, the WRC costs, the fact that the car is completely different from a regular Yaris apart from the lights and there’s only 25,000 being made. How much do you think it costs a manufacturer like Toyota to make a completely new car?
(Less than £2.5B)My statement about the fact the car should be £100,000 has been taken out of context. The Research and Development cost, the WRC costs, the fact that the car is completely different from a regular Yaris apart from the lights and there’s only 25,000 being made. How much do you think it costs a manufacturer like Toyota to make a completely new car?
Edited by Lordbenny on Wednesday 3rd February 18:09
Lordbenny said:
I’ve spoken personally to Henry about the car!
My statement about the fact the car should be £100,000 has been taken out of context. The Research and Development cost, the WRC costs, the fact that the car is completely different from a regular Yaris apart from the lights and there’s only 25,000 being made. How much do you think it costs a manufacturer like Toyota to make a completely new car?
Don't they earn revenue from WRC? My statement about the fact the car should be £100,000 has been taken out of context. The Research and Development cost, the WRC costs, the fact that the car is completely different from a regular Yaris apart from the lights and there’s only 25,000 being made. How much do you think it costs a manufacturer like Toyota to make a completely new car?
Edited by Lordbenny on Wednesday 3rd February 18:09
I watched Henry Catchpole's GR Yaris review earlier and to be fair he was pretty positive. Aside from driving seat height, it seems he just wanted a bit more of a pointy front end like an EVO, a bit more steering feel on slick surfaces and generally a bit more aggression. The steering feel issue is a familiar modern car failing in fairness. I also noted Henry rated the Yaris joint 5th in ECOTY, a bit lower than some of the other testers such as Dickie Meaden. Henry generally prefers his BMWs and lairy ones at that (he voted the M4GTS 1st in ECOTY 2016, when it came 7th overall!!) so I guess it all comes down to personal preference in what you want in a car. Certainly not a negative review in the slightest. Also,
greenarrow said:
I watched Henry Catchpole's GR Yaris review earlier and to be fair he was pretty positive. Aside from driving seat height, it seems he just wanted a bit more of a pointy front end like an EVO, a bit more steering feel on slick surfaces and generally a bit more aggression. The steering feel issue is a familiar modern car failing in fairness. I also noted Henry rated the Yaris joint 5th in ECOTY, a bit lower than some of the other testers such as Dickie Meaden. Henry generally prefers his BMWs and lairy ones at that (he voted the M4GTS 1st in ECOTY 2016, when it came 7th overall!!) so I guess it all comes down to personal preference in what you want in a car. Certainly not a negative review in the slightest. Also,
.......hmm, I guess we'll never know. I hope greenarrow is ok 
Lordbenny said:
F20CN16 said:
The hype around this car is ridiculous. Lord Benny should watch the Henry Catchpole review of for a little balance.
I’ve spoken personally to Henry about the car!My statement about the fact the car should be £100,000 has been taken out of context. The Research and Development cost, the WRC costs, the fact that the car is completely different from a regular Yaris apart from the lights and there’s only 25,000 being made. How much do you think it costs a manufacturer like Toyota to make a completely new car?
Edited by Lordbenny on Wednesday 3rd February 18:09
DMC2 said:
Even if they only make 2k profit per car that equates to £50,000,000.
For a company the size of Toyota, that's nothing. They made circa £13billion profit tin the year to March 2020, which is around £36M profit a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks of the year. So GR Yaris would equate to 1.3days profit at £2k a car but I doubt it's that much after all marketing and development costs have been included. The big variable will be how many GR Yaris they actually end up building (it's going to be more than 25k). Production is still limited because it can't be line built and has to be hand built at the old Lexus LFA plant. Then new legislation could out law it in 2022 (Euro 7 and compulsory speed limiters, which might put a stop to production anyway. It's going to be interesting to see what happens..
M4SER said:
DMC2 said:
Even if they only make 2k profit per car that equates to £50,000,000.
For a company the size of Toyota, that's nothing. They made circa £13billion profit tin the year to March 2020, which is around £36M profit a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks of the year. So GR Yaris would equate to 1.3days profit at £2k a car but I doubt it's that much after all marketing and development costs have been included. The big variable will be how many GR Yaris they actually end up building (it's going to be more than 25k). Production is still limited because it can't be line built and has to be hand built at the old Lexus LFA plant. Then new legislation could out law it in 2022 (Euro 7 and compulsory speed limiters, which might put a stop to production anyway. It's going to be interesting to see what happens..
M4SER said:
DMC2 said:
Even if they only make 2k profit per car that equates to £50,000,000.
For a company the size of Toyota, that's nothing. They made circa £13billion profit tin the year to March 2020, which is around £36M profit a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks of the year. So GR Yaris would equate to 1.3days profit at £2k a car but I doubt it's that much after all marketing and development costs have been included. The big variable will be how many GR Yaris they actually end up building (it's going to be more than 25k). Production is still limited because it can't be line built and has to be hand built at the old Lexus LFA plant. Then new legislation could out law it in 2022 (Euro 7 and compulsory speed limiters, which might put a stop to production anyway. It's going to be interesting to see what happens..
Lancia have been doing narrow-angle V engines since the 1920's with the Tri-Kappa V8 and Lambda V4 and stuck with the concept through to the final version, the Fulvia which ended in the mid 1970's. Fulvia engine asre clever and generally robust units that were often in a high state of tune compared to the rival engines from Ford etc.,
Edited by andrewcliffe on Monday 8th February 16:30
Interesting to note the original car was orange. These days everyone wants originality and would probably put the car back to it's original hue. Obviously you buy these cars on condition/mileage etc first but if it were me, I'd have seeked out the colour I wanted too.
Perhaps the car should go back to orange to be 'correct' but personally if I'd chosen a black car, I'd want to keep it black! It will be good to see what Harry decides in time.
(that said, a quick Google suggests the orange cars look rather tasty too)
Perhaps the car should go back to orange to be 'correct' but personally if I'd chosen a black car, I'd want to keep it black! It will be good to see what Harry decides in time.
(that said, a quick Google suggests the orange cars look rather tasty too)
Shambler said:
Any plans to visit Skye when COVID subsides? Will never forget seeing the Pagani outside the Bosville Hotel in Portree.
I don't think we ever took a Zonda to Skye, we did an Ecoty there in 2009, which included a Noble M600, Evora and Murcielago, maybe it was one of these you saw? DonkeyApple said:
I've just realised what that section of road is that you seem to use in your vids. I've always driven it from the other direction!! The surface towards the Burford end is perfect for confirming the bushes in an old Rangie are in good working order. If they're not the chatter through the wheel is appalling. My girls love that road for the peaks and dips and often make demands that we detour, as happened today. Incidentally, was that your Espada put there this afternoon? The stench of fuel for about 500 yards after passing was pleasant.
oops, was it that obvious?! The Espada hadn't been exercised in months, so that might have had something to do with it. Were you in a K reg RR Classic, as spotted one on that drive on the bit of road you're talking about..M4SER said:
oops, was it that obvious?! The Espada hadn't been exercised in months, so that might have had something to do with it. Were you in a K reg RR Classic, as spotted one on that drive on the bit of road you're talking about..
Yes. A 72 with a 92 paint job!!! The Espada still looks a big car in a world where most classics are so small. I have to say I'm loving this channel at the moment having only relatively recently discovered it, but having previously been an EVO subscriber for many years. The purchase of a new smart telly with the ability to preset different YouTube channels from the home screen means I flick through various YT favorites as if I was skipping between the 5 terrestrial TV channels 20 years back!
Currently mooching through some of the back catalogue, having recently sampled the f-pace SVR roadtrip and the 812 superfsst amongst others. You really do get a fantastic feel for what these cars are like to experience, far more than one if the ubiquitous roadtests from the majority.
The recent engine strip of the Fulvia looks like a first of a really interesting series, and I actually found myself interested in the mechanical oily bits, such is the enthusiasm conveyed. Great job!
Currently mooching through some of the back catalogue, having recently sampled the f-pace SVR roadtrip and the 812 superfsst amongst others. You really do get a fantastic feel for what these cars are like to experience, far more than one if the ubiquitous roadtests from the majority.
The recent engine strip of the Fulvia looks like a first of a really interesting series, and I actually found myself interested in the mechanical oily bits, such is the enthusiasm conveyed. Great job!
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