Deutschland 83, 86 & 89

[Disastrous]

Braquo - also loved
Spiral - not seem but want yo
Romanzo Criminale - also loved
Mammon - not heard of, weirdly.


In fairness, it's nothing really like any of those except in the sense that it's equally well shot and put together. I'm enjoying it a lot but I spent a lot of time in Germany as a child during the era so it has particular appeal.

[Halb]

I think it appeals to me because I love Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People.

[RicksAlfas]

I wouldn't want to watch every programme subtitled, but I don't mind it. It makes you concentrate! You can't be reading or browsing the web at the same time that's for sure.

I can recommend Matrioshki if you like Eastern European dancing girls in Belgium.

[V8mate]

Halb said:

I think it appeals to me because I love Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People.

I do too. Le Carré is probably in my top three favourite authors.

D83 isn't really Le Carré-esque though. Not nearly as dark. More Mission Impossible on a student film club budget.

I'm still thoroughly enjoying it though!

[tiffx19]

Super Slo Mo said:

That particular car was the very light facelift that came out in about 86-87.

Subtle differences are a curvy dashboard, wheel trims and very slight details elsewhere.

I doff my cap to you sir- I love car spotting on TV.. sad.

[Zod]

It could get still darker. There have been a few AIDS references. Edel's wife asked her daughter if she was using condoms and the daughter replied that AIDS only affects Schwule, doesn't it? Tischbier clearly sleeps
around and I suspect Edel's son may end up with AIDS from Tischbier.

[ben5575]

Really liking it so far.

Had an odd moment when my 9 yr old son came in as I was watching the scene where he breaks into the office to photograph the documents.

Cue having to explain why he couldn't just get out his phone, photograph it and email it on to whomever... So he's a german pretending to be a german to spy on a german so that he can tell a german

[anonymous-user]

I like it in German with the great 80s soundtrack, sure it's not 100% realistic but it's still well worth watching.

[Mojocvh]

Rostfritt said:

Beati Dogu said:

Germany was only unified for the first time in 1871 and it has a fair collection of strong regional dialects as a result. Although these days, pretty much everyone can shift to accented standard German (Hochdeutsch - which is taught in school) to make themselves mutually understood.

I remember being in a youth hostel several years ago and someone from north Germany was having a conversation with an Austrian in German. After a while they started talking in English, so I asked if they were doing so for my benefit. Turns out it was easier than trying to understand each other in German.

This!

roughly speaking low mid and high German from North to South
Gets interesting when they get smart and use all three to confuse their poor Gastarbeiter..

btw one good phrase to remember is (roughly) Sie meine Hand zu sehen

[V8mate]

Mojocvh said:

This!

roughly speaking low mid and high German from North to South

Other way round. In Germany, the northerners speak properly and it's the Bayern lot who are their 'Geordies'

[Disastrous]

V8mate said:

Mojocvh said:

This!

roughly speaking low mid and high German from North to South

Other way round. In Germany, the northerners speak properly and it's the Bayern lot who are their 'Geordies'

Franken lichd ned am mehr...

[cardigankid]

Halb said:

I think it appeals to me because I love Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People.

That's exactly what I thought. It's not a mirror image of TTSS of course, but what it shares is the slightly grimy unglamorous background and the way you have to watch it closely as every detail matters. I also think that it is very well acted.

The other series that it brings to mind is Breaking Bad.

Is it historically accurate? No. Is it an exercise in realism? No. Is the continuity perfect in every respect? No. Is it like Germany was in 1983? No. Does any of that matter? No.

[williamp]

cardigankid said:

Halb said:

I think it appeals to me because I love Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People.

That's exactly what I thought. It's not a mirror image of TTSS of course, but what it shares is the slightly grimy unglamorous background and the way you have to watch it closely as every detail matters. I also think that it is very well acted.

The other series that it brings to mind is Breaking Bad.

Is it historically accurate? No. Is it an exercise in realism? No. Is the continuity perfect in every respect? No. Is it like Germany was in 1983? No. Does any of that matter? No.

You like the naked girls too, eh?

[cardigankid]

Yes, I would say that they were authentically German.

[brickwall]

I'm really enjoying this. It's history that is so close to the present day, which gives it a proper sense of realism.

I also love the attention to detail in the costumes, interiors, etc. You really 'feel' the world they're living in.

[TCEvo]

Wartburg sighting!

[Terzo123]

Epic - Faith no more

[TCEvo]

Terzo123 said:

Epic - Faith no more

Didn't come out until '89.

[Terzo123]

TCEvo said:

Terzo123 said:

Epic - Faith no more

Didn't come out until '89.

Ha, that's when the wall came down

[Mustang87]

RicksAlfas said:

I wouldn't want to watch every programme subtitled, but I don't mind it. It makes you concentrate! You can't be reading or browsing the web at the same time that's for sure.

I can recommend Matrioshki if you like Eastern European dancing girls in Belgium.

I struggle to get my girlfriend into any TV series because she's always buried in her laptop looking at Facebook, however because you have to pay attention and look at the screen to understand the plot fully she's got quite into this series!