Quantum of Solace

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trooperiziz

9,457 posts

254 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Raffles said:
blueyes said:
Ozone said:
The editing was so fast and the camera shots so shaky during the fight scenes you couldn't tell what was going on.


Phew! I thought it was just me getting old. I couldn't see what was happening. Even though I was right at the back of the cinema I still felt too close to the screen.
I honestly don't know what the problem is here. smash

It's meant to be like that; it's meant to be confusing, it's artistic. It reflects that the fight itself is confusing and not choriographed at all. It's brutal and fast paced and it makes you feel like you are there.
Yes, we understand it is meant to be like that, we understand what it is trying to do. Doesn't stop it being crap to watch though.


eccles

13,754 posts

224 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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blueyes said:
Ozone said:
The editing was so fast and the camera shots so shaky during the fight scenes you couldn't tell what was going on.


Phew! I thought it was just me getting old. I couldn't see what was happening. Even though I was right at the back of the cinema I still felt too close to the screen.
Same here, just a bit to quick and shaky and ended up just looking messy.

Overall I enjoyed the film, but felt it was just a bunch of action sequences loosely linked together with a very vague plot.
I find the product placement quite intrusive as well.

AstonZagato

12,793 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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trooperiziz said:
Raffles said:
blueyes said:
Ozone said:
The editing was so fast and the camera shots so shaky during the fight scenes you couldn't tell what was going on.


Phew! I thought it was just me getting old. I couldn't see what was happening. Even though I was right at the back of the cinema I still felt too close to the screen.
I honestly don't know what the problem is here. smash

It's meant to be like that; it's meant to be confusing, it's artistic. It reflects that the fight itself is confusing and not choriographed at all. It's brutal and fast paced and it makes you feel like you are there.
Yes, we understand it is meant to be like that, we understand what it is trying to do. Doesn't stop it being crap to watch though.
yes

nail_it

968 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Los Angeles said:
blueyes said:
Ozone said:
The editing was so fast and the camera shots so shaky during the fight scenes you couldn't tell what was going on.
Phew! I thought it was just me getting old. I couldn't see what was happening. Even though I was right at the back of the cinema I still felt too close to the screen.
Lots of complaints fight scenes are badly edited. There was also chase sequence in which the action cuts to a quiet scene, back and forth, for no particular plot reason. It completely breaks the tension. And I thought the homage to the Goldfinger girl really cheesy. I liked the Paul Haggis section, the agent in the group when they are interrogating the suspect, and the villain was realistic this time, but not vivid. All in all, a very efficient enjoyable thriller, not much related to James Bond.
yes

Have to say we had the problem in following the edited scenes and feel the need to see the film again or buy the dvd for this reason (or is this clever marketing?)
But we thoroughly enjoyed the film, particularly the different 'take' on the Bond character.

Bushmaster

27,428 posts

281 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Thoroughly enjoyed the film. Not as good as Casino Royale, but then that was very good indeed.

I like that we are seeing the development of Bond's character. He is a rough diamond that might polish up to more suaveness as the run of films goes on, but he is still far from the finished article. Bond has only been a double-oh for a few days in this story.

Best bit for me was when M takes Bond 'off the case' and he is escorted out by the two British security guys. The look she gives when she sees him again a few moments later is brilliant; superb acting. The relationship between M and Bond is far more developed in the Craig films than in any of the previous films and I read somewhere that this may be developed even further in the future.

If anybody would like a tour of the 'decaying tropical dump' where the 'Port au Prince waterfront' and the 'downtown Bolivia' scenes were filmed give me a shout, it's where I live. smile




smutbag

1,705 posts

192 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Saw this on Friday night.

I really enjoyed it, I see what you mean about the plot lacking in real substance, but from a girly point of view the real story was bonds struggle with himself, his emotions and his inability to deal with vespers betrayl. However this is a pretty big shift from the traditional twists and turns of a 'normal' bond film, and a lot more subtle. I personally think Daniel Craig faied to deliver on the ranges of emotion the plot required him to display.

But really, he didn't shag Camille (who was stunning IMO) and that for me is how every good bond film should end.

PurelyRetro

7,211 posts

206 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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I managed to see the movie on Friday night. First critisms are the fact there were far too many Fords in the film, it might as well have been a Ford advert! Also, because I didn't watch Casino Royale on the day I watched the new film the plot was somewhat confusing. So next time i will watch them both to understand it more.

As well as that the plot moved along too quickly, there was never anytime to take a mental note of what was happening.

Overall, I've seen better Bond movies.

Bushmaster

27,428 posts

281 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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smutbag said:
But really, he didn't shag Camille
What on earth makes you think that? Just because you didn't see it!

By the way, Smutbag, I can't find the stationery. Can you help me look?


AstonZagato

12,793 posts

212 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Bloke watching:
Car Chase, Fight, Guns, Girl, Boat, Plane, Girl, Guns, Fight, Explosions.

Girl watching:
Bond's struggle with himself, his emotions and his inability to deal with Vesper's betrayal.

winksmile

(With apologies to Smutbag - just made me think of that, not taking a dig at you)

Edited by AstonZagato on Sunday 16th November 16:59

smutbag

1,705 posts

192 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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AstonZagato said:
Bloke watching:
Car Chase, Fight, Guns, Girl, Boat, Plane, Girl, Guns, Fight, Explosions.

Girl watching:
Bond's struggle with himself, his emotions and his inability to deal with Vesper's betrayal.

winksmile

(With apologies to Smutbag - just made me think of that, not taking a dig at you)

Edited by AstonZagato on Sunday 16th November 16:59
No no no no no!!!!!! That'd already been covered by the blokes so there was no point in me going over it again was there.

I was gutted at the paltry 6 seconds of the aston, I think I saw more alfa than anything else. Although if they were going to pick "a normal car" to chase the AM in, I was please it was at least a car lovers car.

Emm, you missed out a car, fight, car, fight, boat, plane, guns, fights, gratuitious vagina shot, guns, expolisions, cars, snog.

There, that's about right yes?






Edited by smutbag on Monday 17th November 16:13

smutbag

1,705 posts

192 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Bushmaster said:
smutbag said:
But really, he didn't shag Camille
What on earth makes you think that? Just because you didn't see it!

By the way, Smutbag, I can't find the stationery. Can you help me look?
Funnily enough, that's what my OH said too.

It works. lol.

Killer2005

19,723 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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smutbag said:
alpha
nono

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

249 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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QUANTUM OF bkS.


stE FILM.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Great review there... rolleyes

sadielady

21 posts

187 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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AstonZagato said:
Bloke watching:
Car Chase, Fight, Guns, Girl, Boat, Plane, Girl, Guns, Fight, Explosions.

Girl watching:
Bond's struggle with himself, his emotions and his inability to deal with Vesper's betrayal.

winksmile

(With apologies to Smutbag - just made me think of that, not taking a dig at you)

Edited by AstonZagato on Sunday 16th November 16:59
you missed out

(b) Girl watching - just watching major hunk on screen will do ta

TommyTT

460 posts

209 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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I am being dragged to see this this evening. Is it worth the effort, I thought the last one was poor.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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TommyTT said:
I am being dragged to see this this evening. Is it worth the effort, I thought the last one was poor.
You won't like this one then.

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

220 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Right, I watched this again today - quality film and great cinematography. The way the action scenes are juxtaposed beside the horse racing and especially the opera are especially effective.

However, I still can't work out why at the beginning Bond saves Camille from the General but then hands her to some seemingly random character when he comes off the boat?

I thought he had saved her as he wanted to "pump her for information" but he doesn't do this. Also, it couldn't have been to save her as it seems a bit risky handing an unconscious good looking lass like that to a random punter.

Any thoughts?

mitzy

13,857 posts

199 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Just got back from watching the Quauntum of Solace.

Aside from Craig being a complete stud muffin and would'nt not kick him out of bed to make the tea.

Great film answers lots of questions from the last one loads of action.

Cant wait for the next one.

CQ8

787 posts

229 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Am I the only one wondering why the bad guy got in a x308 lwb jaguar/daimler instead of the newer x350 when he got off the jet with the CIA? I mean how bad can he be if he can only afford the old model?!

Edited by CQ8 on Sunday 16th November 19:42