Films I watched this week (NO SPOILERS) (Vol 3)

[Cotty]

Antony Moxey said:

Yeah but how many motor racing films have there been and we’re only recalling one? Film makers really are clueless when it comes to racing sequences!

Le Mans
Grand Prix
Heart Like a Wheel
The Last American Hero
Rush
Ford v Ferrari
Days of Thunder
Pit Stop
Michel Vaillant
Stroker Ace
Driven

Anyone got any more?

[goth.casual]

Watched Gran Turismo last night.

It’s not good. The script feels like it’s written by ai, it’s got all the tropes you’d expect of this type of movie but no one seems to know why they’re there.

Having watched Ford v Ferrari and Need For Speed recently, this is significantly worse than the first and still worse than the latter.

Genuinely don’t understand what Neil Blomkamp was thinking.

[cuprabob]

Cotty said:

Antony Moxey said:

Yeah but how many motor racing films have there been and we’re only recalling one? Film makers really are clueless when it comes to racing sequences!

Le Mans
Grand Prix
Heart Like a Wheel
The Last American Hero
Rush
Ford v Ferrari
Days of Thunder
Pit Stop
Michel Vaillant
Stroker Ace
Driven

Anyone got any more?

The Art of Racing in the Rain.

[P5BNij]

Cotty said:

Antony Moxey said:

Yeah but how many motor racing films have there been and we’re only recalling one? Film makers really are clueless when it comes to racing sequences!

Le Mans
Grand Prix
Heart Like a Wheel
The Last American Hero
Rush
Ford v Ferrari
Days of Thunder
Pit Stop
Michel Vaillant
Stroker Ace
Driven

Anyone got any more?

There's another Italian made one called 'Le Mans'...

[bloomen]

Same as football, motorsport is a graveyard for narrative film apart from a handful of exceptions.

Who knows why. Must be a PhD in there somewhere.

[Antony Moxey]

bloomen said:

Same as football, motorsport is a graveyard for narrative film apart from a handful of exceptions.

Who knows why. Must be a PhD in there somewhere.

Ha, football films. The best one - Goal - still can’t get it right. And that bloody free kick right at the end, do they think we’re genuinely stupid?

[272BHP]

Antony Moxey said:

Ha, football films. The best one - Goal - still can’t get it right. And that bloody free kick right at the end, do they think we’re genuinely stupid?

I have always put Shaolin Soccer as the best footie movie

[Clockwork Cupcake]

cuprabob said:

Cotty said:

Antony Moxey said:

Yeah but how many motor racing films have there been and we’re only recalling one? Film makers really are clueless when it comes to racing sequences!

Le Mans
Grand Prix
Heart Like a Wheel
The Last American Hero
Rush
Ford v Ferrari
Days of Thunder
Pit Stop
Michel Vaillant
Stroker Ace
Driven

Anyone got any more?

The Art of Racing in the Rain.

Climb Dance and Rendezvous (aka C'était un rendez-vous) probably don't count as they are (short) films of actual driving footage, but deserve an Honourable Mention.

edit: Both are on YouTube if you haven't seen them

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Sunday 24th March 11:40

[Brother D]

Ghostbusters Frozen Empire

The family have moved out of Oklahoma and are now living and working as Ghostbusters in the original firehouse..

Ackroyd has quite a decent part, but there are tons of cameos of the original bit-part actors which was cool to see.

After the previous Ghostbusters which I thought was great, this one tried a little too hard, and obviously had to have a "modern" love sub plot and was a bit cringe.

Still worth seeing, but this is like Ghostbusters 1 vs Ghostbusters

6.5/10

[stemll]

Dune part 2

Needs a subtitle of 'Avatar in sand'. Swap spice for unobtanium, Fremen for Na'vi, Chani for Neytri, the catchbasin for the Tree of Souls.

Guy turns up, goes native, finds a girl, fulfils his destiny, loses girl. Ridiculously weak Emporer and silly floating Baron Harkonnen.

Brilliant cinematography but awful storytelling and even worse acting.

3 Willys out of 10 Wonkas.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

stemll said:

Dune part 2

Needs a subtitle of 'Avatar in sand'. Swap spice for unobtanium, Fremen for Na'vi, Chani for Neytri, the catchbasin for the Tree of Souls.

Guy turns up, goes native, finds a girl, fulfils his destiny, loses girl. Ridiculously weak Emporer and silly floating Baron Harkonnen.

Brilliant cinematography but awful storytelling and even worse acting.

3 Willys out of 10 Wonkas.

It's based on a book published in 1965, and which is considered to be the Lord of the Rings of Sci-Fi, so implying it is derivative is rather ironic really.

[stemll]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

It's based on a book published in 1965, and which is considered to be the Lord of the Rings of Sci-Fi, so implying it is derivative is rather ironic really.

That doesn't help as I think LOTR is also overrated.

Being published in 1965 doesn't change anything. It's a story that's been told many times and that is fine if done well. IMO, this wasn't, with the exception of the cinematography which the IMAX really showed off. IMAX can't help poor acting though.

I fully expect that this will win similar awards to part one. Look down the list of the awards for that and there were no acting nominations at all, anywhere. I very much doubt this will get any either. Cinematography alone cannot make a good movie (see Napoleon for another example).

Well aware that I am in a minority with this one and that's just fine, the world would be an extremely dull place if everyone liked the same things.

At least it only cost me £5 over my Limitless sub.

[bloomen]

I caught it on Imax.

I enjoyed it. It didn't blow my jugs clean off.

Still prefer the Lynchian one with all its many flaws, though there are of course many, many aspects that have improved in the latter ones.

[biggbn]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

stemll said:

Dune part 2

Needs a subtitle of 'Avatar in sand'. Swap spice for unobtanium, Fremen for Na'vi, Chani for Neytri, the catchbasin for the Tree of Souls.

Guy turns up, goes native, finds a girl, fulfils his destiny, loses girl. Ridiculously weak Emporer and silly floating Baron Harkonnen.

Brilliant cinematography but awful storytelling and even worse acting.

3 Willys out of 10 Wonkas.

It's based on a book published in 1965, and which is considered to be the Lord of the Rings of Sci-Fi, so implying it is derivative is rather ironic really.

Probably two of my least favourite things, LOR and sci-fi! I am, however, gonna give Dune a go. Sometimes these things surprise you...

[Clockwork Cupcake]

stemll said:

That doesn't help as I think LOTR is also overrated.

That wasn't really my point. I was just saying that it's amusing to see the originator of something being described as derivative, that's all. Especially when Avatar was the most derivative thing going ("Dances with the Last Pochahontas").

Anyway, sorry the film wasn't for you. Plenty of other films that may be.

[Oakey]

Napoleon

French Gladiator it is not.

[toasty]

Oakey said:

Napoleon

French Gladiator it is not.

Joachim Phoenix was miscast. Warwick Davis would’ve been better.

[Legend83]

DKS said:

Yay, my work here is done. Glad some enjoyed it, obviously not everyone will.

The wife and I watched this Friday and enjoyed it very much - good old silly fun, helped by the good chemistry between the leads and I'd watch Sam Rockwell in anything really.

Just what we needed after a long week thanks!

[fatbutt]

Legend83 said:

The wife and I watched this Friday and enjoyed it very much - good old silly fun, helped by the good chemistry between the leads and I'd watch Sam Rockwell in anything really.

Just what we needed after a long week thanks!

Have you seen Moon ? He really blew me away in that one. Not a role you'd see him in but he is fantastic in it.

[C5_Steve]

Lordbenny said:

272BHP said:

I am confused. The writer and director of the movie is Cord Jefferson and he is certainly not white.

For me, the movie was trying to highlight the nonsense of racial stereotypes and always went back to the essence of family at every opportunity it could - it did that beautifully.

Did you not watch the ending…..SPOILER….

The WHOLE film was a film within a film directed by the white guy, remember the conversation with Monk about how it should end and, surprisingly, Monk came up with THAT ending!
Yes, of course Cord Jefferson directed American Fiction but not the film we were watching which is the spin!

I've popped your comment in spoiler tags as it really does ruin the movie if you've not seen it. I think you've misunderstood the ending, here's my take....

The ending doesn't suggest everything previous was made up. Whilst it's true that it does cast ambiguity on how much is true or part of the script; at several points in the movie prior we have meta moments such as where Monk has conversations with his own characters for example, allowing the ending not to be a total shock,.

The whole point of that last scene is two fold IMO. One, to show how Monk has changed over the course of the film. He now appears to have embraced what he was told in the judging room by the female writer about having to "play the game" to be creative. Second, the fact the white director prefers the stereotypically bombastic ending is a further comment on the struggle for people like Jefferson to write truly original and creative work whilst breaking down stereotypes.

I don't believe the ending is meant to sat that the whole film prior was a Bay type directors wet dream, quite the opposite. Monk has convinced him to tell the story he wants, more or less, but still needs to compromise on some issues.