The Joe Rogan Experience Podcasts
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ZedLeg said:
That's absurd, while theoretical science is clearly important. Some things are facts supported by evidence, we need the oxygen in air to live for example.
To say all science is theoretical just opens you up to believing any old s
te, which makes sense in the context of the Joe Rogan podcast tbh.
Quoted for pasting in the trans threads.To say all science is theoretical just opens you up to believing any old s
te, which makes sense in the context of the Joe Rogan podcast tbh.
ZedLeg said:
That's absurd, while theoretical science is clearly important. Some things are facts supported by evidence, we need the oxygen in air to live for example.
To put that example in a Hancock context it would go something like.Science: we need the oxygen in air to live, this is supported by all this evidence.
Hancock: But there are other things in air, could it be that we actually need the carbon dioxide?
Science: no, it is definitely the oxygen.
Hancock: Big science hates me, they cant handle the possibility they are wrong, blah blag dogma, blah blah, Atlantis. Here is a cartoon by another alternative historian to prove my point (yes he has actually done that).
jameswills said:
There's evidence supporting a theory, that's it. Unless someone was there when it happened, nothing is fact. And then even documentation of that can be distorted through time. That's all I am saying, and all Hancock is saying really. I don't also understand why people feel threatened by him? So what if he's wrong, but what if he's on to something? Surely that would be pretty amazing?
i think rather than defending a straw man version of Hancock, just watch the videos posted critiquing him. There is no way you can come away from them without the conclusion that he is disingenuous. The James Fox one was good. Documentary sounds interesting, although I've been very underwhelmed by other UFO docs touted on the podcast.
I love anything alien related and would love something really tangible to happen, but it feels like big build ups with disappointing drops lol.
I wiki'd the Brazilian incident discussed and it made it sound like absolutely nothing noteworthy. Not to suggest that is in fact the case.
I love anything alien related and would love something really tangible to happen, but it feels like big build ups with disappointing drops lol.
I wiki'd the Brazilian incident discussed and it made it sound like absolutely nothing noteworthy. Not to suggest that is in fact the case.
Drew106 said:
The James Fox one was good. Documentary sounds interesting, although I've been very underwhelmed by other UFO docs touted on the podcast.
I love anything alien related and would love something really tangible to happen, but it feels like big build ups with disappointing drops lol.
I agree. A lot of the UFO documentaries are a bit disappointing. They're all about so called experts and researchers talking about their conspiracy theories, with no real chance of proving anything.I love anything alien related and would love something really tangible to happen, but it feels like big build ups with disappointing drops lol.
Something tangible has happened though, in that the US miltary now admit that they've repeatedly encountered craft that travel in ways that they can't explain. I recently watched a long interview with a navy pilot, who said that these encounters had now become so common that they don't officlally record them anymore, except to warn other pilots of possible hazards in the training area. What this new information will lead to though is anyone's guess.
I find the ones that are focused on witness testimonies to be more interesting, where ordinary people, along with law enforcement personnel, talk of actual experiences. These people have no agenda, and are often reluctant to talk, and risk damaging their reputations/career, Of course there are still no clear answers, but they seem more credible, at least in terms of the fact that something is actually happening that can't be explained.
RB Will said:
liner33 said:
Archaeology isn't a science. A group of people sharing the same theory doesn't equal peer review or science.
"archaeology, also spelled archeology, the scientific study of the material remains of past human life and activities." Flumpo said:
I don’t think hancock genuinely believes half the stuff he says. I got a bit sucked into hancock after he appeared on an early JR. The more you look into his stuff the more jumps out as complete nonsense.
Like with all good conmen he weaves enough truth, plausible scenarios with outright lies to sometimes see credible.
For me he’s the archeological Alex Jones, hugely entertaining to listen rant, but no real credibility and they’re just to sell his books and mercy. I’m surprised he hasn’t got a vitamin range from a recipe he found underwater. I also notice on his Netflix and JR he doesn’t talk at all about how he believes the pyramids were built using telekinesis…..
Hancock's theories are (partially) confirmed by Robert Schoch's work on the dating of the Sphinx. The Sphinx has water erosion from ~10,000 years ago.Like with all good conmen he weaves enough truth, plausible scenarios with outright lies to sometimes see credible.
For me he’s the archeological Alex Jones, hugely entertaining to listen rant, but no real credibility and they’re just to sell his books and mercy. I’m surprised he hasn’t got a vitamin range from a recipe he found underwater. I also notice on his Netflix and JR he doesn’t talk at all about how he believes the pyramids were built using telekinesis…..
Hancock believes there was a large flood 10,000 years ago.
The Sahara had oceans several thousand years ago.
I believe the above more than the nonsense the academic cliche spout.
Edited by gt_12345 on Friday 28th April 18:01
RumbleOfThunder said:
He isn't just "asking questions" or presenting alternate theories like an inquisitive man who wants to learn. He has an agenda and he routinely misrepresents archaeologist as corrupt and incompetent, despite all evidence to the contrary. This I'm afraid is Joe's biggest problem. He's doesn't want to learn either. He gets too entrenched with his positions and doesn't have the right people on to offer true balance. When you're as big as Rogan is now, that's irresponsible.
You mean those archaeologists who invited Robert Schoch to speak about his evidence the Sphinx has water erosion and is at least 10,000 years old and then shouted him down like kids in a playground?Yes, they are corrupt and incompetent.
Robert didn’t say it was 10,000 or so years old based on any evidence. After doing his studying he was suggesting it was maybe about half that age.
He later revised this to 10,000+ based not on evidence but by jumping on the Hancock hype train and wanting to tie it in with Gobekli Tepe as he decided they were related. This is why he gets shouted down.
The majority of geologists and archaeologists partially agree with Robert that water erosion is one factor at work, they all just seem to disagree on the particular method of water erosion and when it happened.
The one thing they do all agree on though is that based on geological/ erosion evidence alone it is impossible to tell when it was carved. Which is why “the mainstream” then also take the surrounding archaeological knowledge into consideration.
He later revised this to 10,000+ based not on evidence but by jumping on the Hancock hype train and wanting to tie it in with Gobekli Tepe as he decided they were related. This is why he gets shouted down.
The majority of geologists and archaeologists partially agree with Robert that water erosion is one factor at work, they all just seem to disagree on the particular method of water erosion and when it happened.
The one thing they do all agree on though is that based on geological/ erosion evidence alone it is impossible to tell when it was carved. Which is why “the mainstream” then also take the surrounding archaeological knowledge into consideration.
gt_12345 said:
Hancock believes there was a large flood 10,000 years ago.
As far as I’m aware there is no evidence of a cataclysm / flood near the pyramids at the end of the last ice age. Edited by gt_12345 on Friday 28th April 18:01
Hancock just likes to get out his maps and show the sea level rise from about 15,000 years ago until today, and claim it happened in one night rather than thousands of years
gt_12345 said:
RumbleOfThunder said:
He isn't just "asking questions" or presenting alternate theories like an inquisitive man who wants to learn. He has an agenda and he routinely misrepresents archaeologist as corrupt and incompetent, despite all evidence to the contrary. This I'm afraid is Joe's biggest problem. He's doesn't want to learn either. He gets too entrenched with his positions and doesn't have the right people on to offer true balance. When you're as big as Rogan is now, that's irresponsible.
You mean those archaeologists who invited Robert Schoch to speak about his evidence the Sphinx has water erosion and is at least 10,000 years old and then shouted him down like kids in a playground?Yes, they are corrupt and incompetent.
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