The Orville - Seth MacFarlane comedy Star Trek

The Orville - Seth MacFarlane comedy Star Trek

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chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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Flip Martian said:
True that - watch it on dvd or the old reruns and it looks dated; the HD remasters look far better - like it was made yesterday. You could say the stories are far less gritty than one might get today but then it was made late 80s/early 90s... A bit like comparing Cannon with Chicago PD.
Yep, a lot of them are still very watchable, though. I want to pre order The Orville, but it seems you can only get it in DVD format only right now, what is it, 2008!

Flip Martian

19,745 posts

191 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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chris watton said:
Yep, a lot of them are still very watchable, though. I want to pre order The Orville, but it seems you can only get it in DVD format only right now, what is it, 2008!
Oh really? That's rubbish. Watching the S2 trailer made me think "wouldn't mind the BR box set of S1" but if they don't even have one...

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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Flip Martian said:
chris watton said:
JonChalk said:
I'm not convinced SNG has aged well, and looks a bit "meh" against the likes of The Orville and even BG reboot.
I have the new BR box set, which has the CGI and overall picture quality improved, and there are certainly a lot more hits than misses. It is the stories that are interesting, not the FX so much.
True that - watch it on dvd or the old reruns and it looks dated; the HD remasters look far better - like it was made yesterday. You could say the stories are far less gritty than one might get today but then it was made late 80s/early 90s... A bit like comparing Cannon with Chicago PD.
Perhaps "looks" was the wrong word to use (I wasn't really meaning the picture quality), I was really meaning that some / most of the storylines / plot development / characters are a bit stilted / old-fashioned, which does present a bit of a problem for sci-fi.

For me, the benchmark for non-ageing sci-fi would be Firefly, which I think is still eminently watchable, without cringing. I'm hoping that The Expanse falls into this category, long term.

Am enjoying The Orville now - will it still be watchable in 15/20 years?

Silver Smudger

3,313 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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For those of us that do remember TNG, Jonathan Frakes is currently on set directing another episode, and Marina Sirtis is there for a guest spot

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Flip Martian

19,745 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Silver Smudger said:
For those of us that do remember TNG, Jonathan Frakes is currently on set directing another episode, and Marina Sirtis is there for a guest spot

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Could probably have done without the guest spot to be honest hehe If she comes on and says "I feel...great pain..." I will probably howl, all the same laugh

carl_w

9,219 posts

259 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Just watched "For the Love of Spock" on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80115102

Remastered TOS looks amazing. I only ever saw the originals on analogue TV.

Flip Martian

19,745 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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carl_w said:
Just watched "For the Love of Spock" on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80115102

Remastered TOS looks amazing. I only ever saw the originals on analogue TV.
Looks amazing on bluray. They did a great job cleaning them up.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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JonChalk said:
For me, the benchmark for non-ageing sci-fi would be Firefly, which I think is still eminently watchable, without cringing. I'm hoping that The Expanse falls into this category, long term.
Yeah it is, for me, BSG is there too. Not seen Dollhouse recently, it may be.
Actually I've just finished SG1, that's still in the best of what I consider (and I don't wish to be mean) the 'B' shows.

Flip Martian

19,745 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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JonChalk said:
Perhaps "looks" was the wrong word to use (I wasn't really meaning the picture quality), I was really meaning that some / most of the storylines / plot development / characters are a bit stilted / old-fashioned, which does present a bit of a problem for sci-fi.

For me, the benchmark for non-ageing sci-fi would be Firefly, which I think is still eminently watchable, without cringing. I'm hoping that The Expanse falls into this category, long term.

Am enjoying The Orville now - will it still be watchable in 15/20 years?
Will people be watching Family Guy in 15/20 years? Like The Simpsons, maybe the humour just gets "old".

I agree about ST TNG but it only really got going in S3 onwards more, especially when they ran 2 parters and took time to develop the plots more. Chain of Command in the 6th season is right up there, I think. They had Sir Pat acting his face off of course, which helped.

Actually my wife and I are revisiting Enterprise on bluray and that has far more in the way of character development and deeper, more developed story telling I think - and they tended to have a linear timeline from 1 ep to the next so it makes more sense to watch them in order - eg the Andorrians turn up early in S1 and Archer has a developing relationship with the Andorrian he meets then, all the way through the series. Also the Suliban, the whole temporal cold war story and so on. I think that approach draws you in a bit more, rather than just stringing 20-odd separate stories together which could be in any order.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Season 2 dropped E01 in the US yesterday to reasonable ratings.

Just watched it & if you liked it before (as I did), then more of the same; if you didn't like it before, then this looks unlikely to change your mind.

carl_w

9,219 posts

259 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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JonChalk said:
Season 2 dropped E01 in the US yesterday to reasonable ratings.

Just watched it & if you liked it before (as I did), then more of the same; if you didn't like it before, then this looks unlikely to change your mind.
Jan 10th in the UK (Sky/NowTV)

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

139 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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JonChalk said:
Just watched it & if you liked it before (as I did), then more of the same; if you didn't like it before, then this looks unlikely to change your mind.
Pretty much sums up my feelings, will continue to watch and see how it develops.

Arklight

891 posts

190 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Thought it was an odd season opener, had quite a slow mid season pace to the episode I thought.

Still enjoyable for me though and still looking forward to the rest of the season.

Silver Smudger

3,313 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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carl_w said:
Jan 10th in the UK (Sky/NowTV)
bounce

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Arklight said:
Thought it was an odd season opener, had quite a slow mid season pace to the episode I thought.

Still enjoyable for me though and still looking forward to the rest of the season.
Think it was really mostly about setting the tone for the Ed / Kelly relationship in Season 2 - think Seth McFarlane has made some statements on this recently, but I'm not going to repeat from memory as I haven't got them to hand.

Stan the Bat

8,972 posts

213 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Glad it's back.

New episode wasn't the best I've seen though.

juggsy

1,430 posts

131 months

Tuesday 1st January 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
Glad it's back.

New episode wasn't the best I've seen though.
Clearly based on what happened at the end of S1 they wanted to put the whole Ed / Kelly thing to bed and move on with the series, hopefully things improve

Stan the Bat

8,972 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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I believe the next episode ( shown tomorrow in USA) is one left over from the first series.


JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
I believe the next episode ( shown tomorrow in USA) is one left over from the first series.
Seems like it, according to Wikipedia - should have been Ep12 in series 1, if the quoted production codes are to believed.

Bullett

10,894 posts

185 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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Ep13?

I watched S1 Ep12 this morning, it's the one where Kelly becomes a God.
It wrapped up the relationship pretty well.