Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 4)

[WarrenB]

jon- said:

Onlyshmans?

As others have said, if people want to pay, let them. Fair play to him.

Indeed. Considering how much free content he puts out I don't think anyone can complain about a few instagram stories behind a small paywall. Not something I'd pay for but I'm sure there'll be people that will.

[Michael1212]

Spidersleg said:

Is that the automotive vlogger version of onlyfans?

Looks that way. Wonder how many will sign up to it..

[wastedyouth86]

ayedubya said:

is jeremy lynch the freestyler one? why is he horrible? not that i watch his videos mind

Yeah he is a the freestyler one. A lot is on Youtube about why he is not the nicest person from bragging about being the best on the ball at arsenal (including the first team) when he was in the under 15's team. He also released an utterly cringe music video type thing where he dressed as batman.

Also there was an incident at Youtube football event called the Wembley cup where he was trying to intimidate a youtube comedian called Stephen tries.

[Toaster Pilot]

DonBarracuda said:

Tom (TGE) explains the Lanister controversy - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/drivel-hoste...

Not really. He’s obviously signed something that means he is st scared of actually explaining what’s happened - even backpedals in the short duration of that podcast on what he’s saying “they’re not FCA registered yet...... not sure they actually need to be at this stage”

[wastedyouth86]

Toaster Pilot said:

Not really. He’s obviously signed something that means he is st scared of actually explaining what’s happened - even backpedals in the short duration of that podcast on what he’s saying “they’re not FCA registered yet...... not sure they actually need to be at this stage”

But but.... I thought Tom was up there with Jeff and Elon in terms of razor sharp business acumen?

[S11Steve]

I wonder if this kid was filming at the time he destroyed his fathers Huayra Roadster - https://www.thedrive.com/news/37698/teen-youtuber-...


IG images tells me all I need to know about him - https://www.instagram.com/ggexotics/?hl=en

[Gad-Westy]

Michael1212 said:

Spidersleg said:

Is that the automotive vlogger version of onlyfans?

Looks that way. Wonder how many will sign up to it..

I stay fairly quiet on Shmee and others that produce similar content because, in all honesty, I don't watch them and am not really very interested in their subject matter. But my impression from everything discussed on here is that these channels sound like relentless campaigns to monetise everything possible. Brand tie ins, ads disguised as reviews, sponsorship, merchandise and now paywall stuff. I don't blame Shmee or others and it seems they do well out of it but it doesn't sound like it makes for enticing viewing, it just sounds slightly exploitative. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should...

[sgtBerbatov]

S11Steve said:

I wonder if this kid was filming at the time he destroyed his fathers Huayra Roadster - https://www.thedrive.com/news/37698/teen-youtuber-...


IG images tells me all I need to know about him - https://www.instagram.com/ggexotics/?hl=en

Video coming tomorrow yo

[Lee Jones Jnr]

Meh, I don’t watch Schmee150 stuff, it’s just not for me, but plenty of people trying to make money online do this type of thing and people can choose to pay or not.
I didn’t know there was an IG version but it’s no different to Ko-Fi or Patreon etc
I don’t pay for any car content but I’m involved in the comedy industry and I quite regularly pay for content to support people that I like.

[Horsey McHorseface]

DonBarracuda said:

Tom (TGE) explains the Lanister controversy - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/drivel-hoste...

Already amassed 760+ reviews. All 5 stars, zero 4/3/2 stars, and what looks like one, 1 star review. All from just 3 podcasts. Actually 2 podcasts, because he appears to have received no reviews for yesterdays.

Compare and contrast against STG’s 85 podcasts, totalling 593 reviews.

Fake LDNM Amazon reviews, fake CCN Trust Pilot reviews, and now fake TGE Apple podcast reviews. A quick google shows how it’s done: https://www.niemanlab.org/2018/10/how-i-cheated-th...

[cowboyengineer]

Gad-Westy said:

Michael1212 said:

Spidersleg said:

Is that the automotive vlogger version of onlyfans?

Looks that way. Wonder how many will sign up to it..

I stay fairly quiet on Shmee and others that produce similar content because, in all honesty, I don't watch them and am not really very interested in their subject matter. But my impression from everything discussed on here is that these channels sound like relentless campaigns to monetise everything possible. Brand tie ins, ads disguised as reviews, sponsorship, merchandise and now paywall stuff. I don't blame Shmee or others and it seems they do well out of it but it doesn't sound like it makes for enticing viewing, it just sounds slightly exploitative. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should...

But it’s a business. People want to watch people drive Sennas around the ring or see modifications to cars. That’s got to be paid for somehow.

[wastedyouth86]

cowboyengineer said:

But it’s a business. People want to watch people drive Sennas around the ring or see modifications to cars. That’s got to be paid for somehow.

True but they are all the exciting parts of his video's, unless he is going to start holding stuff back to justify the monthly cost i can not see why people would pay Shmee isn't exactly suttle when he is buying a car and unless he is getting serious money from his private Instagram why would he jeopardies the adsense revenue from YouTube.

[Gad-Westy]

cowboyengineer said:

Gad-Westy said:

Michael1212 said:

Spidersleg said:

Is that the automotive vlogger version of onlyfans?

Looks that way. Wonder how many will sign up to it..

I stay fairly quiet on Shmee and others that produce similar content because, in all honesty, I don't watch them and am not really very interested in their subject matter. But my impression from everything discussed on here is that these channels sound like relentless campaigns to monetise everything possible. Brand tie ins, ads disguised as reviews, sponsorship, merchandise and now paywall stuff. I don't blame Shmee or others and it seems they do well out of it but it doesn't sound like it makes for enticing viewing, it just sounds slightly exploitative. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should...

But it’s a business. People want to watch people drive Sennas around the ring or see modifications to cars. That’s got to be paid for somehow.

With the greatest respect, I think that stuff is already being paid for because it is already out there. What we're talking about is profitability which is a very understandable objective for any business. But personally I think there is a fine line to tread where activities can start to look like greed and offer questionable value to their customers. Customers are very often younger people easily swayed by exclusive content and special editions and all the other vacuous crap that is marketed to them relentlessly. We all have a level of acceptance of where making an honest living starts to look like greed. This breaches mine.

I understand how pointless it is being disgruntled about something like this by the way. The forces of capitalism will always win in the end and if there is a market for paywall content, then the money will pour in regardless of the opinion of miserable gits like me. It would just be nice to think that all of the current revenue streams might be 'enough' or that once customer's have finished being relentlessly advertised at while they sit there in there in their favourite vlogger's branded hoodie, underpants and baseball cap, they may think that they have already contributed enough themselves.

[Lee Jones Jnr]

Gad-Westy said:

cowboyengineer said:

Gad-Westy said:

Michael1212 said:

Spidersleg said:

Is that the automotive vlogger version of onlyfans?

Looks that way. Wonder how many will sign up to it..

I stay fairly quiet on Shmee and others that produce similar content because, in all honesty, I don't watch them and am not really very interested in their subject matter. But my impression from everything discussed on here is that these channels sound like relentless campaigns to monetise everything possible. Brand tie ins, ads disguised as reviews, sponsorship, merchandise and now paywall stuff. I don't blame Shmee or others and it seems they do well out of it but it doesn't sound like it makes for enticing viewing, it just sounds slightly exploitative. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should...

But it’s a business. People want to watch people drive Sennas around the ring or see modifications to cars. That’s got to be paid for somehow.

With the greatest respect, I think that stuff is already being paid for because it is already out there. What we're talking about is profitability which is a very understandable objective for any business. But personally I think there is a fine line to tread where activities can start to look like greed and offer questionable value to their customers. Customers are very often younger people easily swayed by exclusive content and special editions and all the other vacuous crap that is marketed to them relentlessly. We all have a level of acceptance of where making an honest living starts to look like greed. This breaches mine.

I understand how pointless it is being disgruntled about something like this by the way. The forces of capitalism will always win in the end and if there is a market for paywall content, then the money will pour in regardless of the opinion of miserable gits like me. It would just be nice to think that all of the current revenue streams might be 'enough' or that once customer's have finished being relentlessly advertised at while they sit there in there in their favourite vlogger's branded hoodie, underpants and baseball cap, they may think that they have already contributed enough themselves.

Do you think younger people watch Shmee150 videos?
I assumed it was Partridge types in their 40s

[Gad-Westy]

Lee Jones Jnr said:

Gad-Westy said:

cowboyengineer said:

Gad-Westy said:

Michael1212 said:

Spidersleg said:

Is that the automotive vlogger version of onlyfans?

Looks that way. Wonder how many will sign up to it..

I stay fairly quiet on Shmee and others that produce similar content because, in all honesty, I don't watch them and am not really very interested in their subject matter. But my impression from everything discussed on here is that these channels sound like relentless campaigns to monetise everything possible. Brand tie ins, ads disguised as reviews, sponsorship, merchandise and now paywall stuff. I don't blame Shmee or others and it seems they do well out of it but it doesn't sound like it makes for enticing viewing, it just sounds slightly exploitative. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should...

But it’s a business. People want to watch people drive Sennas around the ring or see modifications to cars. That’s got to be paid for somehow.

With the greatest respect, I think that stuff is already being paid for because it is already out there. What we're talking about is profitability which is a very understandable objective for any business. But personally I think there is a fine line to tread where activities can start to look like greed and offer questionable value to their customers. Customers are very often younger people easily swayed by exclusive content and special editions and all the other vacuous crap that is marketed to them relentlessly. We all have a level of acceptance of where making an honest living starts to look like greed. This breaches mine.

I understand how pointless it is being disgruntled about something like this by the way. The forces of capitalism will always win in the end and if there is a market for paywall content, then the money will pour in regardless of the opinion of miserable gits like me. It would just be nice to think that all of the current revenue streams might be 'enough' or that once customer's have finished being relentlessly advertised at while they sit there in there in their favourite vlogger's branded hoodie, underpants and baseball cap, they may think that they have already contributed enough themselves.

Do you think younger people watch Shmee150 videos?
I assumed it was Partridge types in their 40s

It's all assumption from me. I don't know. But I know young people seem far more susceptible to 'exclusive content' crap than most. I cannot imagine people in their 40's paying for that stuff and even less buying merchandise but I'd be genuinely interested to know the answer if I'm wrong.

[Retro_Jim]

KillerHERTZ said:

RichReviews said:

Wow thank you Bobby, really appreciated. We hope to really grow the channel...getting the first 200 Subs is a flipping nightmare though. Hopefully it gets easier.

Getting the first 1000 is the hardest, took me a while. nearly 3 years later im on just over 40,000 now: www.youtube.com/killerhertzmercedes

Echo what the others have said, you need to pick a subject and stick to it, rather than 3-4 subjects.

I generally do 'How To' videos and recently did a load of videos on the Nurburgring, which havent done as well as I thought they would, I guess they are too different a subject for my general audience.

Edited by KillerHERTZ on Wednesday 18th November 14:08

Well this is comforting to read, I started a channel initially about the rebuild of the Mk1 Cortina after it came back from being painted. I hadn't done anything like this before so it's all been learnt by just trying things out and seeing what works or doesn't. I haven't necessarily done things to get views - i.e. a video of me restoring the wiper motor/linkage has a limited audience.

I generally have had a positive experience so far with people commenting positive stuff which has helped me but doing everything myself, getting parts and then editing takes time which goes against the ethic of Youtube which seems to rely on consistency in uploads.

I think things may progress when the Cortina has an MOT as I've noticed that the videos regarding the engine starting or me having my first drive in years has done much better than me doing small jobs, not that I am looking at Youtube as being anything more than a hobby. I have a career already, I just like restorations and old cars.

If anyone is interested in looking.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCua3T-EBPspO2KKBs...

[sgtBerbatov]

Retro_Jim said:

KillerHERTZ said:

RichReviews said:

Wow thank you Bobby, really appreciated. We hope to really grow the channel...getting the first 200 Subs is a flipping nightmare though. Hopefully it gets easier.

Getting the first 1000 is the hardest, took me a while. nearly 3 years later im on just over 40,000 now: www.youtube.com/killerhertzmercedes

Echo what the others have said, you need to pick a subject and stick to it, rather than 3-4 subjects.

I generally do 'How To' videos and recently did a load of videos on the Nurburgring, which havent done as well as I thought they would, I guess they are too different a subject for my general audience.

Edited by KillerHERTZ on Wednesday 18th November 14:08

Well this is comforting to read, I started a channel initially about the rebuild of the Mk1 Cortina after it came back from being painted. I hadn't done anything like this before so it's all been learnt by just trying things out and seeing what works or doesn't. I haven't necessarily done things to get views - i.e. a video of me restoring the wiper motor/linkage has a limited audience.

I generally have had a positive experience so far with people commenting positive stuff which has helped me but doing everything myself, getting parts and then editing takes time which goes against the ethic of Youtube which seems to rely on consistency in uploads.

I think things may progress when the Cortina has an MOT as I've noticed that the videos regarding the engine starting or me having my first drive in years has done much better than me doing small jobs, not that I am looking at Youtube as being anything more than a hobby. I have a career already, I just like restorations and old cars.

If anyone is interested in looking.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCua3T-EBPspO2KKBs...

This I like, this I can get on board with. Have a subscription from me

[93DW]

I thought this thread had been removed, Wtf is it doing in here? Its been in GG for years now

[Retro_Jim]

sgtBerbatov said:

This I like, this I can get on board with. Have a subscription from me

Thank you, it's very much appreciated

[lawrywild]

So Lanistar is a pyramid scheme by the sounds of it?