BBC to Reveal Stars Earnings

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p1stonhead

25,685 posts

168 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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The Surveyor said:
p1stonhead said:
Gargamel said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Somehow I doubt news readers are particularly close to the top of the pile.
Personally I don't have an issue with what individual stars are paid. Don't see the problem, talent needs reward.

I don't care if Lineker gets £2 or £2m - its irrelevant
In normal circumstances yes but people will obviously want to know as its the BBC which is taxpayer funded.
Are you saying that we should all know exactly how much everybody who works in the public sector earns? Just because some people want to know, doesn't mean the information should be made available. At it's most basic level, peoples earnings should be a private matter between the individual and the employer.

For me personally, I rather enjoy the BBC, I rather appreciate the quality of some of their programs, programs which need top talent to produce and we all know that top talent cost money. I enjoy the Chris Evans breakfast show and don't really care how much he's managed to negotiate for himself and his team, just like I wouldn't object to David Attenborough earning a healthy crust either.

It's nothing but voyeurism driven by envy.
I said people not me. I dont care or think its anyones business either.

I should have written 'some' people.

Edited by p1stonhead on Wednesday 19th July 09:57

captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I am positively erect in anticipation of discovering how much BBC people get paid.

Then I can lob ropey knots of opinion jizz around a forum about an industry I know nothing about, enhanced by the butt-pug of my own lazy prejudice.

I am pistonheads.


Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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captainzep said:
ropey knots of opinion jizz
laugh

Countdown

40,071 posts

197 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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captainzep said:
I am positively erect in anticipation of discovering how much BBC people get paid.

Then I can lob ropey knots of opinion jizz around a forum about an industry I know nothing about, enhanced by the butt-pug of my own lazy prejudice.

I am pistonheads.
hehe

PH is strange at times. For a place that has so many wealthy powerfully-built Directors who earn well into 6 figures there seems to be an inane amount of jealousy about others being paid well into 6 figures.

There's nothing to stop any PH'er applying to "put on a bit of slap, wear a miniksirt, and present BBC Breakfast".



Wingo

300 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Nothing more than frothy fodder for the celebrity obsessed.

No different to PLCs making public what the top earners get paid, no different to the routine publishing of what top public sector staff get paid.

The main difference is that this will get the full are they "worth it" analysis from the green eyed.

In many respects the top earners are just the front for a big team of people, the front man or women always get the big bucks.

wingo.

JakeT

5,463 posts

121 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I'd rather present Simon Mayo's show on R2. 2 hours in an afternoon of having a chat. Not to mention the confession. I'd still wear a miniskirt if they wanted me to thoguh.

AyBee

10,555 posts

203 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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BlackLabel said:
The BBC will be able to keep the pay of dozens of its top TV stars a secret in future years because it has spun off its production arm, BBC Studios, as a commercial company subject to the same loophole.
Publically funded company avoiding legal requirements via loopholes...this should be good!

Dazed and Confused

979 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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The Surveyor said:
p1stonhead said:
Gargamel said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Somehow I doubt news readers are particularly close to the top of the pile.
Personally I don't have an issue with what individual stars are paid. Don't see the problem, talent needs reward.

I don't care if Lineker gets £2 or £2m - its irrelevant
In normal circumstances yes but people will obviously want to know as its the BBC which is taxpayer funded.
Are you saying that we should all know exactly how much everybody who works in the public sector earns? Just because some people want to know, doesn't mean the information should be made available. At it's most basic level, peoples earnings should be a private matter between the individual and the employer.

For me personally, I rather enjoy the BBC, I rather appreciate the quality of some of their programs, programs which need top talent to produce and we all know that top talent cost money. I enjoy the Chris Evans breakfast show and don't really care how much he's managed to negotiate for himself and his team, just like I wouldn't object to David Attenborough earning a healthy crust either.

It's nothing but voyeurism driven by envy.
I love the BBC but struggle to understand why Evans even gets work, and there's some big money names on Radio 2, that I never listen to. Am I not allowed to have an opinion?

Good job we don't all think the same.



The Surveyor

7,578 posts

238 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Dazed and Confused said:
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Good job we don't all think the same.
Indeed, there would be no need for discussion forums such as this if we did....

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I really couldn't give a st what people are paid. If they've managed to negotiate it, then good on them.

Dazed and Confused

979 posts

83 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Podie said:
I really couldn't give a st what people are paid. If they've managed to negotiate it, then good on them.
Okay, say if Evans is on £5m a year, do you not think the Beeb could do something more useful with a chunk of that money?

It's not as though he's skint.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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It is a good job Clarkson isn't employed by the BBC anymore as you can just imagine the outrage his salary would cause. Despite Topgear earning around £40 million a year for the BBC. Obviously the value of the show vs. cost of the performers should have zero relevance to the performers salaries.

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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"Stars" - ugh.

The Surveyor

7,578 posts

238 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Dazed and Confused said:
Okay, say if Evans is on £5m a year, do you not think the Beeb could do something more useful with a chunk of that money?

It's not as though he's skint.
Are you suggesting he should work for less because he's already loaded?

essayer

9,108 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Guido has busted the embargo
https://order-order.com/2017/07/19/bbc-salaries-re...

Can't really see too much to get worked up about, BBC pay grades aren't exactly generous lower down the line

Surprised not to see Dimbleby on there

droopsnoot

12,037 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I am not seeing the link between the BBC publishing this information, and the removal of said presenters (for want of a better word) to be replaced by cheaper alternatives - knowing what Chris Evans is paid, or anyone else, doesn't mean they'll be out of a job next week. I'm not even sure we can always blame the presenter involved, as their agents will probably be involved in bumping the money up as far as they can.

As for getting anyone in to do the job, you've only got to watch normal people being interviewed on local news programmes to get a feel for what the news would be like if it were read by a normal person.

Sure, it would be great if there was a pool of very talented people who would front all the prime-time successful shows on the BBC just for the prestige of it, but I can see how the choice between a basic living wage on the BBC and a mega-salary from a commercial competitor would just lead to a rapid degradation in quality of the BBC output, particularly given that the shelf-life of a lot of presenters is quite short. I can't say I can really blame anyone, given an opportunity to get paid what to many people is a vast salary for very little (regardless of how that compares to the reality of the situation), for grabbing it with both hands.

towser44

3,506 posts

116 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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The Surveyor said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Okay, say if Evans is on £5m a year, do you not think the Beeb could do something more useful with a chunk of that money?

It's not as though he's skint.
Are you suggesting he should work for less because he's already loaded?
I thought I had read Evans donates his Radio 2 salary to charity?

tankplanker

2,479 posts

280 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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essayer said:
Guido has busted the embargo
https://order-order.com/2017/07/19/bbc-salaries-re...

Can't really see too much to get worked up about, BBC pay grades aren't exactly generous lower down the line

Surprised not to see Dimbleby on there
Nice to see a decent number of IT staff on the list.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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essayer said:
Guido has busted the embargo
https://order-order.com/2017/07/19/bbc-salaries-re...

Can't really see too much to get worked up about, BBC pay grades aren't exactly generous lower down the line

Surprised not to see Dimbleby on there
Interesting list, nothing to froth about in my view but a few surprises.

By that I mean Casualty actors being the two highest paid actors, and Clare Balding is on a pittance and needs a new agent. Also McEnroe gets quite a lot for what is presumably two weeks work.

Lineker and Shearer should really be binned as that's 3m a year alone and they don't deliver that amount of value in my view, Lineker will also get a massive wedge from BT.

Mr-B

3,792 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
The funding source is not particularly relevant imo, talent is a market & there's a few free market adherents expressing a dislike for a free market because BBC. As noted, the gender gap will be the more interesting angle if it turns out George Alagiah is on twice Sophie Raworth's salary for doing the same job.

I recall a BBC news 24 presenter let slip her salary a couple of years ago & it was around 120k. I expect the range we'll see is 100-200k for the top team.
Spot on. Inside info? biggrin