100 year old driving school. ITV.
Discussion
Vipers said:
Exactly, but how on earth the old biddy in the red car only advised to get an automatic car beggers belief, she should have been told in no uncertain terms she is an accident waiting to happen, and give up driving. Maybe someone from DVLA saw this programme and will be interested in trying to do something about it. I think she had absolutely no idea of what NSL was, and after being asked a number of times said 60, probably a good guess.
Where does she live so I can avoide her.
It's not limited to the elderly. I did a SAC this week and one young lady thought that the NSL was 40mph; another knew it was 70mph on a dual carriageway but unfortunately did not know what a dual carriageway actually was.Where does she live so I can avoide her.
briangriffin said:
Computerised test rather than practical? So questions on highway code (driving laws will change in a decade) and the Hazard Perception thing too. Maybe every 20 years would be easier. My health, reactions, eyesight etc will be a lot different at 40 than they were at 20.
Where do you draw the line though? Do we all need to be retaking exams, requalifying and reapplying for our jobs every decade too? One could argue the more you practice something the better skilled you become. Driving is a constant training course in itself. Age is just paperwork.
briangriffin said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Based on 40m drivers in the UK and 250 working days a year, that's 16000 tests a day. That doesn't include retests for those that fail or tests for new drivers that we have going thru daily now. . Care to enlighten us on the actual logistics of how you're going to make this work. After all, I'm sure you haven't just said "retest everyone every 10 years" without having some plan as to how it will work.
And what happens when you fail. Kids need picking up from school, people have to get to work, to do their jobs. One assumes you'll need to take someone with you to the test in case you fail and can't drive back unaccompanied?
But i'm sure you've thought this thru, so let's hear the plan.
Computerised test rather than practical? So questions on highway code (driving laws will change in a decade) and the Hazard Perception thing too. Maybe every 20 years would be easier. My health, reactions, eyesight etc will be a lot different at 40 than they were at 20. And what happens when you fail. Kids need picking up from school, people have to get to work, to do their jobs. One assumes you'll need to take someone with you to the test in case you fail and can't drive back unaccompanied?
But i'm sure you've thought this thru, so let's hear the plan.
At the end of the day, there are bad drivers regardless of their age. I am sure not all those drivers who barrel down the slip road daily with "I have the right of way" mentality are not elderly drivers, nor or those caught over a ton.
Yes some of those on the programme shouldn't be behind a wheel, then again neither should a lot of other drivers.
Yes some of those on the programme shouldn't be behind a wheel, then again neither should a lot of other drivers.
227bhp said:
Laurel Green said:
I stomached this for the first ten minutes, that was enough for me. Just couldn't watch anymore horrendous driving.
You were daft enough to watch it in the first place? As soon as I saw the title I felt my piss getting warm, I didn't need it boiling!Riley Blue said:
227bhp said:
Laurel Green said:
I stomached this for the first ten minutes, that was enough for me. Just couldn't watch anymore horrendous driving.
You were daft enough to watch it in the first place? As soon as I saw the title I felt my piss getting warm, I didn't need it boiling!Vipers said:
Riley Blue said:
227bhp said:
Laurel Green said:
I stomached this for the first ten minutes, that was enough for me. Just couldn't watch anymore horrendous driving.
You were daft enough to watch it in the first place? As soon as I saw the title I felt my piss getting warm, I didn't need it boiling!It may no make everyone happy to actually look at the facts, but the truth is if you had a max driving age of 80, it would make virtually no difference to the numbers killed or seriously injured on our roads. However, if you have a minimum driving age of 25, it would make a huge difference.
I'm not advocating a minimum age of 25, just pointing out the bleeding obvious.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Spot on.
It may no make everyone happy to actually look at the facts, but the truth is if you had a max driving age of 80, it would make virtually no difference to the numbers killed or seriously injured on our roads. However, if you have a minimum driving age of 25, it would make a huge difference.
I'm not advocating a minimum age of 25, just pointing out the bleeding obvious.
I can see this. However, how would, for example, the school leavers/newly graduated get to work? It may no make everyone happy to actually look at the facts, but the truth is if you had a max driving age of 80, it would make virtually no difference to the numbers killed or seriously injured on our roads. However, if you have a minimum driving age of 25, it would make a huge difference.
I'm not advocating a minimum age of 25, just pointing out the bleeding obvious.
A colleague was given a lift by her 18yr old son the other day and confessed to the office she was scared how fast and (over) confident he was. Suprised he had recently passed. Yet my friends 19yr old daughter has just bought a new Fiesta ST as her second car and having been out with her she's a steady and competent driver with a fantastic job to which she'd be unable to get to without the car (paid for solely by herself inc insurance). Living fairly rural/small market town/no decent public transport the idea of not driving until 25 would have such a massive effect.
My parents are late 70s/early 80s and still driving. There are no shops where they live, one bus a day, and to be honest the broadband drops out when the weather is bad. They're still very active and out and about daily.
Many people suffer nerves under pressure, exams, interviews - these are mostly just a one few hour event. Yes we study before hand but the final pass is just that one sitting mostly. Perhaps with the driving test it needs to be broken down again, over six months? Or a retest after 12 months of the initial pass? I'm sure it's been thought of and the current method is seen most viable. This will be an ongoing debate as the roads get busier.
I don't watch that much TV but recently trying out some leisure time... I'm not sure it's as relaxing as I was told!!
Oakey said:
If you want to talk piss poor driving let me tell you a story from the weekend.
We're driving down a single lane NSL road on the way out of our town and my gf looks in the rear view and sees an emergency vehicle barrelling up the road behind us still some distance away. As it gets closer she reduces her speed and pulls in so that it can pass safely, except the d
head behind us who clearly hasn't been paying attention slams on his horn and proceeds to overtake us, slowing right down in the process so the driver and his wife (in their 50s) can look at us as they pass and hurl abuse at us. At the same time as this is happening the police X5 (that had been hurtling towards us with it's lights flashing and sirens blaring) slams on his brakes, narrowly avoids rear ending the dhead and jumps on the horn for good measure. Cue dhead quickly pulling in so the X5 can pass.
A little while later the road splits into two lanes and we overtake him, as we pass I look over at the couple, both of whom proceed to start hurling abuse again.
Why can't people hold their hands up and accept they fked up?
One day this couple will meet the guy who rams them off the road. Gets out of his car and retrieves his baseball bat from the boot, before setting about their car with it, then smashing the windows and dragging them bodily from their vehicle and setting about them in turn. Broken and bloody, with life changing injuries, they may regret their foolishness, or they may not. In either case they'll both be eating their meals through a straw for the rest of their lives - because if you behave like an asshole, one day, you will meet the psycho. And when that happens...We're driving down a single lane NSL road on the way out of our town and my gf looks in the rear view and sees an emergency vehicle barrelling up the road behind us still some distance away. As it gets closer she reduces her speed and pulls in so that it can pass safely, except the d
head behind us who clearly hasn't been paying attention slams on his horn and proceeds to overtake us, slowing right down in the process so the driver and his wife (in their 50s) can look at us as they pass and hurl abuse at us. At the same time as this is happening the police X5 (that had been hurtling towards us with it's lights flashing and sirens blaring) slams on his brakes, narrowly avoids rear ending the dhead and jumps on the horn for good measure. Cue dhead quickly pulling in so the X5 can pass. A little while later the road splits into two lanes and we overtake him, as we pass I look over at the couple, both of whom proceed to start hurling abuse again.
Why can't people hold their hands up and accept they f
ked up?These people exist. Why risk it? They guys heart rate probably won't even get above eighty five....
TwigtheWonderkid said:
poing said:
Nope.
I'd make everyone, regardless of age, take a test every 10 years.
Based on 40m drivers in the UK and 250 working days a year, that's 16000 tests a day. That doesn't include retests for those that fail or tests for new drivers that we have going thru daily now. . Care to enlighten us on the actual logistics of how you're going to make this work. After all, I'm sure you haven't just said "retest everyone every 10 years" without having some plan as to how it will work. I'd make everyone, regardless of age, take a test every 10 years.
And what happens when you fail. Kids need picking up from school, people have to get to work, to do their jobs. One assumes you'll need to take someone with you to the test in case you fail and can't drive back unaccompanied?
But i'm sure you've thought this thru, so let's hear the plan.
The number of tests is hardly impossible to manage, obviously we'd need to increase the infrastructure but it would be self funding so hardly a problem. We can MOT test every car after 3 years so we can certainly manage the drivers. I guess we get the added bonus of creating some jobs, demand always creates supply and the very nature of it means it won't happen all at once and will be a gradual increase.
If you fail you have a period of time to get extra tuition, a fail doesn't mean you stop driving it just means you need extra training to meet a safe standard. The exception being if you are so bad as to be considered dangerous in which case you will indeed being getting someone else to pick the kids up because you shouldn't be driving.
I'm late to watching this tonight so didn't see the assessment that ended with the one lady having the suggestion made she no longer drives. Her daughter seemed somewhat relieved so assume she less than competent.
Wonderful group of old RAF veterans. Hoping he passes his assessment and wow a 105yr old woman still driving! That'll be interesting.
Wonderful group of old RAF veterans. Hoping he passes his assessment and wow a 105yr old woman still driving! That'll be interesting.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
However, if you have a minimum driving age of 25, it would make a huge difference.
I suspect all it would do is make the most dangerous driving age 25 to 26 yo, rather than 17 to 18 yo! IE it's a lack of experience which is dangerous, not the absolute age you learn to drive.What i do find surprising is the light hearted way in which this program seems to treat the subject. Considering that driving is the MOST dangerous thing anyone in the 1st world does, and considering the consequences of any mistake, and considering the fact we no longer accept drink driving etc as a "laughable" matter, why do we accept poor driving as "comedy" material?
Vipers said:
greggy50 said:
Can't believe how fit and healthy the lady in the yellow mini looked for 106 years old!
Yup, there's hope for us all.Gretchen said:
I'm late to watching this tonight so didn't see the assessment that ended with the one lady having the suggestion made she no longer drives. Her daughter seemed somewhat relieved so assume she less than competent.
Wonderful group of old RAF veterans. Hoping he passes his assessment and wow a 105yr old woman still driving! That'll be interesting.
The lady who was advised to give up was a bit of a clutch killer ,apparently burnt out 3 in that Picanto.Wonderful group of old RAF veterans. Hoping he passes his assessment and wow a 105yr old woman still driving! That'll be interesting.
Had to smirk at the location for the Surrey test ,amongst the Sunday biker meet at Box hill......
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Vipers said:
Although it's been thrashed to death, what if you fail? I have tried a few on line HC questions, and it's so easy to get a fail by getting a few questions wrong. Give it a go.
Surely that's the whole point?? If you get questions on the Highway Code wrong then you are probably not driving in a manner in accordance with the Highway Code, for example, remaining in the middle lane after overtaking and not pulling back to the left.
Making people remember the HC is a good thing, not remembering is a bad thing. Simples.
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