Bodyguard BBC

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KTF

9,837 posts

151 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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alfa phil said:
if he is out to slot his boss ,and has history of being shell shocked, he wouldn't get that position would he,
Oh i came out the forces in a mess, joined the police and now i protect the top people in the cabinet, no sorry,
Given he would have DV to get the protection job given the information he would have access to, the PTSD would have been found as part of the checks.

But then that wouldn’t fit the plot...

KTF

9,837 posts

151 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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DS240 said:
Pretty much what I expected from line of duty creators.

Low of accuracy and painful to watch from a professional point of view.
I thought programs like this have advisors (retired I imagine so the latest things don’t get revealed) but even to the layman it looks sloppy.

CPWilliams

235 posts

84 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Stewart Pearson’s been promoted.

KTF

9,837 posts

151 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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CPWilliams said:
Stewart Pearson’s been promoted.
The guy from Versailles who was the Kings right hand man is in there as well.

DS240

4,695 posts

219 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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KTF said:
DS240 said:
Pretty much what I expected from line of duty creators.

Low of accuracy and painful to watch from a professional point of view.
I thought programs like this have advisors (retired I imagine so the latest things don’t get revealed) but even to the layman it looks sloppy.
You’d think so wouldn’t you.

Likely drama is more important than realism.

Line of duty was watchable but infuriating to the point of comically bad at times.

schmalex

13,616 posts

207 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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alfa phil said:
if he is out to slot his boss ,and has history of being shell shocked, he wouldn't get that position would he,
Oh i came out the forces in a mess, joined the police and now i protect the top people in the cabinet, no sorry,
I think he’s out for his bosses slot now..!

rubes78

455 posts

221 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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schmalex said:
I think he’s out for his bosses slot now..!
Pretty sure he was in it biggrin

alfa phil

2,109 posts

208 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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rubes78 said:
schmalex said:
I think he’s out for his bosses slot now..!
Pretty sure he was in it biggrin
laugh yes lucky boy,

DSLiverpool

14,791 posts

203 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
XCP said:
Formulaic rubbish as far as I am concerned. Still, each to their own.
Quite, pre conceived & racist, why always Islamic suicide bombers and the white guys/girls the good guys ?
Episode 2 put that right for you.

Gretchen

19,057 posts

217 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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DSLiverpool said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
XCP said:
Formulaic rubbish as far as I am concerned. Still, each to their own.
Quite, pre conceived & racist, why always Islamic suicide bombers and the white guys/girls the good guys ?
Episode 2 put that right for you.
Almost posted this last night as thought that was coming.

K-Cee

238 posts

189 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Yeh, pretty good drama, but why-o-why ?, the cliched BBC thing for having the voices of 8 real BBC newsreaders, adding the dramatics. Why not just have ordinary actor voice overs, to me it would sound more in keeping..., it sound's so bloody corny and irritating !

Antony Moxey

8,139 posts

220 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Ridiculously far fetched with plot holes you could drive a bus through but even so I’m finding it strangely compelling and edge of the seat stuff. Will stick with it to see how it pans out - at the moment it could go anywhere given the suspension of any reality shown so far.

waynecyclist

8,960 posts

115 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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One thing that puzzled me last night, why did the Bmw not have bulletproof glass.

Or did it?

DSLiverpool

14,791 posts

203 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Antony Moxey said:
Ridiculously far fetched with plot holes you could drive a bus through but even so I’m finding it strangely compelling and edge of the seat stuff. Will stick with it to see how it pans out - at the moment it could go anywhere given the suspension of any reality shown so far.
Could you highlight some of them please as from my view I can see a few remote coincidences and the train takedown was unlikely and the back up response during the attack was very odd but other than that ......

FiF

44,254 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Captain Benzo said:
I'm not trying to be sexist, and certainly not implying that it was 'wrong' but what is the likelihood that the operations lead, marksman and bomb disposal operator all being female?

in fact all of the women were portrayed as villains/ unlikeable. whats the point in that??

and surely someone with PTSD is going to go through some form of psychological profiling before going on bodyguard detail?


i think the show has potential but ultimately think it felt a tad formulaic.
Just a few of the things which grated or seemed a bit BBC being right on politically correct, maybe a step too far, but then it's drama, not going to go into "rivet counter" mode, so a certain degree of suspension of belief is necessary.

Jed Mercurio is busy, 5th season of Line of Duty starting filming very soon, 6th already commissioned. Clearly Bodyguard appears to be going down the line of 'is the person protecting you actually your greatest threat?" Wild spurious speculation obviously follows, might one infer a similar plot premise that Hastings (Adrian Dunbar's character in LoD) is in the end revealed as bent?

Not seen episode 2 yet so Bodyguard comments may be off target.

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Captain Benzo said:
I'm not trying to be sexist, and certainly not implying that it was 'wrong' but what is the likelihood that the operations lead, marksman and bomb disposal operator all being female?

in fact all of the women were portrayed as villains/ unlikeable. whats the point in that??
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You forgot his police boss, and the home secretary were also female. In fact, pretty much all the holders of senior or important skilled positions (ie bomb disposal and sniper as you mentioned) were female.

Trying too hard to be gender neutral - pushed it too far.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Puggit said:
You forgot his police boss, and the home secretary were also female. In fact, pretty much all the holders of senior or important skilled positions (ie bomb disposal and sniper as you mentioned) were female.

Trying too hard to be gender neutral - pushed it too far.
It is the W1A rule book, so true its funny

The Hypno-Toad

12,323 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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waynecyclist said:
One thing that puzzled me last night, why did the Bmw not have bulletproof glass.

Or did it?
As she looked liked someone had poured a raspberry trifle over her head probably not!

But I must admit that part baffled me too. Unless matey boy had somehow to smuggle a Barrett 50 or similar back in his duffel bag?

FiF

44,254 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Puggit said:
You forgot his police boss, and the home secretary were also female. In fact, pretty much all the holders of senior or important skilled positions (ie bomb disposal and sniper as you mentioned) were female.

Trying too hard to be gender neutral - pushed it too far.
It is the W1A rule book, so true its funny
Looking at the last ten years 3 out of the 5 Home Secretaries have been female, so that's par for the course these days, and it's almost de rigueur for some time now in TV drama that the boss of whichever operational unit is female, so it sort of passes by unnoticed.

But when the OIC of the firearms unit, plus sniper, plus EXPO, were all females, sorry W1A style reimagining a step too far.

Most amused at Robb Stark's response to Chief Whip's 'feed the plod monkey some nuts' line. Still male character portrayed as ahole, but then maybe that just a necessary character trait for the Whips Office.

vxr8mate

1,655 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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waynecyclist said:
One thing that puzzled me last night, why did the Bmw not have bulletproof glass.

Or did it?
I thought it did. There were three shots into it with the third penetrating. I think there's a Youtube vid somewhere saying a high caliber rifle can penetrate bullet proof glass by making it weaker with initial shots.

If it wasn't bullet proof I'd have thought it would just shatter.