Greatest Gangster Movies Ever
Discussion
gansstraat said:
I disagree about Once Upon A Time In America. I watched it recently for the first time as I had it down on my list of 'All Time Classics - Must See' and was hugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
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I agree, just about the only gangster film I dont like..
Oh just remembered anither classic.
Millers crossing.
gansstraat said:
I disagree about Once Upon A Time In America. I watched it recently for the first time..........
hugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
.........have it beaten into a cocked hat as far as pace and narrative are concerned.
It was almost as over-rated as that other 'classic' I finally got round to watching: The Deer Hunter. Russian Roulette scene aside, I ended up watching most of the second half on fast forward it was so dull.
Son you just slagged off two of the greatest works on celluloid ever made. Like 'em or not you need to watch again as Once Upon a Time is not just a fhugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
.........have it beaten into a cocked hat as far as pace and narrative are concerned.
It was almost as over-rated as that other 'classic' I finally got round to watching: The Deer Hunter. Russian Roulette scene aside, I ended up watching most of the second half on fast forward it was so dull.
king gangster movie. It's a piece of film making portraying in part a social history of early 20th century America, the affects of which span forty years into the then modern day. That it spoke toward loyalty, friendship, love, hate, money, power, corruption, politics, and you missed the fking lot speaks volumes about you.As for Deer Hunter, you really don't get it do you. No that is not a question. Here's a f
king clue. It's not a war film.Have you seen Die Hard? I believe they do a box set. Knock yourself out kid!
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king gangster movie. It's a piece of film making portraying in part a social history of early 20th century America, the affects of which span forty years into the then modern day. That it spoke toward loyalty, friendship, love, hate, money, power, corruption, politics, and you missed the fking lot speaks volumes about you.
As for Deer Hunter, you really don't get it do you. No that is not a question. Here's a fking clue. It's not a war film.
Have you seen Die Hard? I believe they do a box set. Knock yourself out kid!Wooo-ooo. That's his opinion, no need to have a paddy.
Does Snatch fall into this category? also Pulp Fiction is worth a mention. Casino and Goodfellas top my list.
Slade Alive said:
gansstraat said:
I disagree about Once Upon A Time In America. I watched it recently for the first time..........
hugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
.........have it beaten into a cocked hat as far as pace and narrative are concerned.
It was almost as over-rated as that other 'classic' I finally got round to watching: The Deer Hunter. Russian Roulette scene aside, I ended up watching most of the second half on fast forward it was so dull.
Son you just slagged off two of the greatest works on celluloid ever made. Like 'em or not you need to watch again as Once Upon a Time is not just a fhugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
.........have it beaten into a cocked hat as far as pace and narrative are concerned.
It was almost as over-rated as that other 'classic' I finally got round to watching: The Deer Hunter. Russian Roulette scene aside, I ended up watching most of the second half on fast forward it was so dull.
king gangster movie. It's a piece of film making portraying in part a social history of early 20th century America, the affects of which span forty years into the then modern day. That it spoke toward loyalty, friendship, love, hate, money, power, corruption, politics, and you missed the fking lot speaks volumes about you.As for Deer Hunter, you really don't get it do you. No that is not a question. Here's a f
king clue. It's not a war film.Have you seen Die Hard? I believe they do a box set. Knock yourself out kid!
Does Snatch fall into this category? also Pulp Fiction is worth a mention. Casino and Goodfellas top my list.
obob said:
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king gangster movie. It's a piece of film making portraying in part a social history of early 20th century America, the affects of which span forty years into the then modern day. That it spoke toward loyalty, friendship, love, hate, money, power, corruption, politics, and you missed the fking lot speaks volumes about you.
As for Deer Hunter, you really don't get it do you. No that is not a question. Here's a fking clue. It's not a war film.
Have you seen Die Hard? I believe they do a box set. Knock yourself out kid!Wooo-ooo. That's his opinion, no need to have a paddy.
Does Snatch fall into this category? also Pulp Fiction is worth a mention. Casino and Goodfellas top my list.
Agreed! You can see his point of view on them films though surely. Also, whats wrong with Die Hard? I love box set Slade Alive said:
gansstraat said:
I disagree about Once Upon A Time In America. I watched it recently for the first time..........
hugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
.........have it beaten into a cocked hat as far as pace and narrative are concerned.
It was almost as over-rated as that other 'classic' I finally got round to watching: The Deer Hunter. Russian Roulette scene aside, I ended up watching most of the second half on fast forward it was so dull.
Son you just slagged off two of the greatest works on celluloid ever made. Like 'em or not you need to watch again as Once Upon a Time is not just a fhugely disappointed with the over-long & turgid piece of self indulgent film-making that unfolded.
.........have it beaten into a cocked hat as far as pace and narrative are concerned.
It was almost as over-rated as that other 'classic' I finally got round to watching: The Deer Hunter. Russian Roulette scene aside, I ended up watching most of the second half on fast forward it was so dull.
king gangster movie. It's a piece of film making portraying in part a social history of early 20th century America, the affects of which span forty years into the then modern day. That it spoke toward loyalty, friendship, love, hate, money, power, corruption, politics, and you missed the fking lot speaks volumes about you.As for Deer Hunter, you really don't get it do you. No that is not a question. Here's a f
king clue. It's not a war film.Have you seen Die Hard? I believe they do a box set. Knock yourself out kid!
Does Snatch fall into this category? also Pulp Fiction is worth a mention. Casino and Goodfellas top my list.
Not sure if my choice comes in the Ganster category but it certainly comes in the Gansta category. Training Day. If thats not though then it's just gotta be Scarface for me... Come See My Little Frend
A piece of film making portraying in part a social history of early 20th century America, the effects of which span forty years into the then modern day, speaking to loyalty, friendship, love, hate, money, power, corruption, politics it may be, but it's a fairly dull one nonetheless. Emperor's new clothes and all that. I also, and this may induce Slade Alive into a head bursting fit of apoleptic rage, thought Mean Streets was pretty weak too. Maybe I've an aversion to overblown 70s celluloid 'epics'.
Ironically, I think Die Hard is probably a classic in its own particular genre. Not so sure about 2 and the less said about 3 & 4 the better.
I could be wrong though, it's only an Internet opinion...
Ironically, I think Die Hard is probably a classic in its own particular genre. Not so sure about 2 and the less said about 3 & 4 the better.
I could be wrong though, it's only an Internet opinion...
Get Carter would be at the top of my list, I love it's bleakness which is reflected perfectly by Roy Budd's score. I know it's overated by some folk but it's one of about a dozen films I can watch repeatedly and get a bit more from it each time. Still one of the best British movies ever made of any genre, not just gangster flicks.
I guess only a few can really be called the greatest of all time but also on my list are Brighton Rock, Villain, Robbery and The Long Good Friday. I remember going to see TLGF when it came out and the scene where Bob Hoskins glasses Derek Thompson with a broken bottle was quite shocking at the time!
Haven't seen Scarface for years, must have another look at it, even though a lot of American gangster movies leave me cold.
Going slightly OT, when I first started on the railway back in 1982 one of the drivers I worked with at Willesden was one of the four train crew used in the filming of Robbery in early 1967, he drove the mail train up and down the disused Rugby to Peterborough line for about two weeks, earning a fair bit of overtime.
I guess only a few can really be called the greatest of all time but also on my list are Brighton Rock, Villain, Robbery and The Long Good Friday. I remember going to see TLGF when it came out and the scene where Bob Hoskins glasses Derek Thompson with a broken bottle was quite shocking at the time!
Haven't seen Scarface for years, must have another look at it, even though a lot of American gangster movies leave me cold.
Going slightly OT, when I first started on the railway back in 1982 one of the drivers I worked with at Willesden was one of the four train crew used in the filming of Robbery in early 1967, he drove the mail train up and down the disused Rugby to Peterborough line for about two weeks, earning a fair bit of overtime.
Slightly leftfield but City of God is firmly one of the best gangster films ever made IMO (actually...is it a "gang" film...).
My overall favourite has to be Goodfellas:
"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster."
Godfather is beautiful but not as visceral as Goodfellas: it'd probably be more mood dependent for me to watch at the drop of a hat.
Once upon a time is epic but, at times, self indulgent..
Donnie Brasco I thought dull but maybe ought to watch again, not seen it since it came out
Carlitos Way suffers from Al Pacino being Al Pacino
Scarface, I really, really like but de Palma has a bit of an annoying trait as director that I can't quite put my finger on..
The Departed was one of the most overrated films I've seen full stop.
Sexy Beast is just ace
My overall favourite has to be Goodfellas:
"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster."
Godfather is beautiful but not as visceral as Goodfellas: it'd probably be more mood dependent for me to watch at the drop of a hat.
Once upon a time is epic but, at times, self indulgent..
Donnie Brasco I thought dull but maybe ought to watch again, not seen it since it came out
Carlitos Way suffers from Al Pacino being Al Pacino
Scarface, I really, really like but de Palma has a bit of an annoying trait as director that I can't quite put my finger on..
The Departed was one of the most overrated films I've seen full stop.
Sexy Beast is just ace
gansstraat said:
Ironically, I think Die Hard is probably a classic in its own particular genre.
No question, enjoyable as perhaps the first two were, but they dismiss the need of intelligence to watch or enjoy them. Hardly social statements of the day, any of them. But at least now I understand why you would dismiss two iconic masterpieces of movie making given you prefer Die Hard.Dear Mr Slade,
Let's try and keep things civil please. This is, after all, supposed to be a debating forum as opposed to an insult forum (although I do wonder sometimes).
I appreciate that you have a slightly higher opinion of these two movies than I do but, as a number of posts on this thread have highlighted, OUATIA appears to be a movie that polarises opinion. For the record, I did think that a number of scenes were very good but - in my opinion - the movie could have been halved in running time and twice as good. An epic for epic's sake.
If you get this worked up about an internet discussion about what's the best gangster movie, I'd hate to see your reaction if it was a disagreement about something of substance.
Love & kisses.
Let's try and keep things civil please. This is, after all, supposed to be a debating forum as opposed to an insult forum (although I do wonder sometimes).
I appreciate that you have a slightly higher opinion of these two movies than I do but, as a number of posts on this thread have highlighted, OUATIA appears to be a movie that polarises opinion. For the record, I did think that a number of scenes were very good but - in my opinion - the movie could have been halved in running time and twice as good. An epic for epic's sake.
If you get this worked up about an internet discussion about what's the best gangster movie, I'd hate to see your reaction if it was a disagreement about something of substance.
Love & kisses.
The Departed is number 1 for me. Bloody loved it, like a lot of other very violent films I enjoyed it more the second time once I'd had a chance to get used to all the people getting shot in the head.
Goodfellas and Casino are very simular, but I prefer Goodfellas, it's epic without being too long.
I also love Love Honour and Obey - it's so bloody funny.
Not a big fan of Essex Boys / Rise of the foot solder type films - the subjects, real or not come across like a bunch of riod ravaged bully boys more interested in beating and hurting each other over some percived lack of 'respect' than actually profiting from their criminiality.
Goodfellas and Casino are very simular, but I prefer Goodfellas, it's epic without being too long.
I also love Love Honour and Obey - it's so bloody funny.
Not a big fan of Essex Boys / Rise of the foot solder type films - the subjects, real or not come across like a bunch of riod ravaged bully boys more interested in beating and hurting each other over some percived lack of 'respect' than actually profiting from their criminiality.
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