The Men Who Made Us Fat
Discussion
Halb said:
This is an awesome article. I watched "The Bitter Truth" lecture a month ago and cut my refined sugar intake and reduced my natural sugar intakeThere's already a huge difference in the size of my belly, my skin and my energy levels.
For anyone who missed it and is interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
Edited by Potatoes on Sunday 24th April 14:07
Potatoes said:
This is an awesome article. I watched "The Bitter Truth" lecture a month ago and cut my refined sugar intake and reduced my natural sugar intake
There's already a huge difference in the size of my belly, my skin and my energy levels.
Indeed, it's not just about diabetes and obesity, but other aspects of wellbeing. One only has to look at the skin of certain people and know their diet is poor.There's already a huge difference in the size of my belly, my skin and my energy levels.
LordGrover said:
Just finished reading Why We Get Fat (and what to do about it) by Gary Taubes.
An interesting and informative read.
Almost finished Eat Fat Get Thin by Mark Hyman; also very good.
I have Good calories bad calories by Taubes, still not read it. An interesting and informative read.
Almost finished Eat Fat Get Thin by Mark Hyman; also very good.
Don't want to get dragged into specific diets, plans or the like, but other half and I have been significantly reducing refined sugar intake and not obsessing about "low fat everything" in recent weeks and it has had a noticeable difference. We've both lost weight with no other major lifestyle changes, both lost the craving for sugar and both feel we're on more of a plateau in terms of energy levels - no peaks and crashes. Skin also feels better.
Has been very interesting to compare sugar content of whole versus low fat products, especially dairy and fruit juices.
Has been very interesting to compare sugar content of whole versus low fat products, especially dairy and fruit juices.
Halb said:
Horizon tonight, another doc asking why is GB getting so fat.
Sludge is cheap & admittedly often tastes good in the short-term. Healthy is less cheap, sometimes hard work and often more expensive.Oh, and that exercise stuff is hard work and doesn't allow time for watching X-Factor extra extra, or ask for lives/post ste on social media. Far better to post a pic of your latest ink than doing a few hours hard graft.
DukeDickson said:
Halb said:
Horizon tonight, another doc asking why is GB getting so fat.
Sludge is cheap & admittedly often tastes good in the short-term. Healthy is less cheap, sometimes hard work and often more expensive.Oh, and that exercise stuff is hard work and doesn't allow time for watching X-Factor extra extra, or ask for lives/post ste on social media. Far better to post a pic of your latest ink than doing a few hours hard graft.
By the way, I thought the bloke that presented it, Giles Yeo was first rate.
Randy Winkman said:
Though the programme did show that we aren't all dealt the same hand genetically.
By the way, I thought the bloke that presented it, Giles Yeo was first rate.
Yes he was.By the way, I thought the bloke that presented it, Giles Yeo was first rate.
I found the fact that the genetic martker for fattiness helps one shift fat more if one exercises was rather interesting.
I thought it was a shocking programme in the respect that it just tried to give fat people another excuse for overeating.
Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
Thankyou4calling said:
I thought it was a shocking programme in the respect that it just tried to give fat people another excuse for overeating.
Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
They just showed a bit of science didn't they? And then it showed lots of people who have taken control of their situation and lost loads of weight. Do you think the science bit should be hushed up?Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
Thankyou4calling said:
I thought it was a shocking programme in the respect that it just tried to give fat people another excuse for overeating.
Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
I have to agree that I thought it went very heavily in the direction of just blaming genes for everything. That could be down to the title which seemed to imply that the programme was going to explore the causes of the obesity epidemic generally, if they had chosen something more accurate and specific to what they talked about for most of the show (genes making some people more susceptible to weight gain) then it maybe wouldn't have looked that way.Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
The weight gain gene is probably pretty advantageous in a 'natural world' situation where we don't have cheap and easy calories available everywhere. If you were trying to scrape a living like a member of a primitive tribe does, you generally wouldn't have a problem of too many calories in your diet or too many processed, simple carbs, and being able to put weight on would be something that would help you survive.
Thankyou4calling said:
I thought it was a shocking programme in the respect that it just tried to give fat people another excuse for overeating.
Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
On the other hand (and I feel slightly dirty saying this), that genetic luck of the draw does have a fair old influence, both directly and indirectly.Of course genetics play a part as do your upbringing, your employment, where you live and more.
But you have to take that into account with your eating.
It's no good saying "I'm fat because i have poor genetics" you simply have to eat less and exercise more.
Just another excuse, blame somebody or something else.
If your genes are good, you can give your body dogs abuse and not be dead or look close to ( ). May or may not look great doing so, it depends.
However, you may pay elsewhere, as is usually the case. I can and have given my body a right good kicking (in a not good way), but one of the biggest things preventing me from righting the past is genetic bad luck. Calcium bits are goosed, so no running, cycling hurts and not sure how long before I'm doing a few lengths with granny A & B , .
A good article here by Prue Leith https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/09/im-a-bake-off-...
I had no idea that the average calorie intake per person was approx a 100 a day higher back in the 50's than it is today. makes sense though, all those fried brekkers and all.
Its not hard to fathom that laziness is a key player in obesity, a glance in all too many trolleys being pushed by those morbidly obese shows they are too lazy to even cook properly, let alone partake in any other forms of exertion.
I had no idea that the average calorie intake per person was approx a 100 a day higher back in the 50's than it is today. makes sense though, all those fried brekkers and all.
Its not hard to fathom that laziness is a key player in obesity, a glance in all too many trolleys being pushed by those morbidly obese shows they are too lazy to even cook properly, let alone partake in any other forms of exertion.
That Sugar Film is another great exposé from funny Aussie Damon Gameau.
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