The Island -Bear Grylls
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Still enjoying it but it does feel very staged in many ways.
One guy goes missing, we find him just before darkness.
We're thirsty, we just manage to find water.
We need fire, it takes a day but we get there.
Suggestions of casting people away to the other islands, buildings rafts etc.
And now a vote for a leader....
It's like they've all read copies of Lord of the Flies and various other survival novels and been told to try and act them out the best that they can.
One guy goes missing, we find him just before darkness.
We're thirsty, we just manage to find water.
We need fire, it takes a day but we get there.
Suggestions of casting people away to the other islands, buildings rafts etc.
And now a vote for a leader....
It's like they've all read copies of Lord of the Flies and various other survival novels and been told to try and act them out the best that they can.
Rupert is a total bell end, just another mid-life crisis, wannabe alpha male moron. How much energy must have been wasted trying to wade across that mud? If there was a caiman there, it would have bolted while him and his d
head squad were arsing about in the mud. Trying to catch one at night, in waist deep water is one of the most retarded ideas I've seen put into action.
If they were not just playing the clock because they know how long they've got left, they wouldn't go in there. If Rupert really was stranded he'd act differently, it's all well and good playing the big hard man when you know you can call in help if you get injured. In a real survival situation, the risk of getting bitten and bleeding to death or getting an infection would quickly rule out pissing around in a swamp at night.
head squad were arsing about in the mud. Trying to catch one at night, in waist deep water is one of the most retarded ideas I've seen put into action.If they were not just playing the clock because they know how long they've got left, they wouldn't go in there. If Rupert really was stranded he'd act differently, it's all well and good playing the big hard man when you know you can call in help if you get injured. In a real survival situation, the risk of getting bitten and bleeding to death or getting an infection would quickly rule out pissing around in a swamp at night.
TheGroover said:
And they're doing another one. Not something that needs repeating is it?
I told my mrs she should give it a go! I would love to see that. I did wonder for a second why they didn't have any women on there but quickly realised that we have desires for food, water and sex!What you've got to remember is that being hungry, thirsty and bored makes you act and behave differently. Bad decision making being one of them. You could put anyone in that situation and they would start snapping and b
hing at each other.They should have elected Ryan as leader - cannot believe he didn't walk it...
Finding the bees - this week's hidden treasure - was very handy. Again.
Overall not bad telly, but rather overblown in it's desire to reveal the real man (one who doesn't eat endangered species) without resorting to nastiness.
Finding the bees - this week's hidden treasure - was very handy. Again.
Overall not bad telly, but rather overblown in it's desire to reveal the real man (one who doesn't eat endangered species) without resorting to nastiness.
Halb said:
You wouldn't want one in your garden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchineel
Maybe not, but the facts contained in the wiki article about its toxicity is a long way from the way it was described on the programme. It sounds like it is highly unlikely to kill you and yet the programme would have us believe that one look at it could kill a thousand men. A bit like medusa's head.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchineel
Also, what I didn't like was the fact it appeared towards the end (when they fed him at the end) that they had actually got a good survival and food regime going (which I was interested to see) and yet the programme did not imply this at any stage. It made out that they were eeking an existence by the skin of their teeth.
Halb said:
You wouldn't want one in your garden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchineel
The tree and its parts contain strong toxins, some unidentified. Its milky white sap contains phorbol and other skin irritants, producing strong allergic dermatitis.[2] Standing beneath the tree during rain will cause blistering of the skin from mere contact with this liquid (even a small drop of rain with the milky substance in it will cause the skin to blister). Burning the tree may cause blindness if the smoke reaches the eyes.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchineel
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k that!blindswelledrat said:
Also, what I didn't like was the fact it appeared towards the end (when they fed him at the end) that they had actually got a good survival and food regime going (which I was interested to see) and yet the programme did not imply this at any stage. It made out that they were eeking an existence by the skin of their teeth.
Maybe. It felt more to me like they were probably overstating how well they'd done based on scrounging together food that would've been intended for a dozen guys to make one meal, knowing they wouldn't have to save any of it for the next one either. Quite surprised they had a filter system for their water though, that was unexpectedly shrewd.0000 said:
Maybe. It felt more to me like they were probably overstating how well they'd done based on scrounging together food that would've been intended for a dozen guys to make one meal, knowing they wouldn't have to save any of it for the next one either. Quite surprised they had a filter system for their water though, that was unexpectedly shrewd.
THat's true enough but take the crab for example:Someone mentioned that sleeping on the floor meant they got attacked by crabs which implied they were plentiful.
At no stage did they show them eating crabs.
Also it appears they had a source of lemons and limes which were never showed.
Instead all they did was show them nibbling snails and rotten fish.
JB! said:
Yeah seems to be more than they have shown going on. I saw impovised crab pots too, but no word on how well those did?
I'd been harping on to my family for weeks about how they had made no effort to make a raft, which would have enabled fishing further out into the bay. Amazing how one appeared in the last episode. I think you have to be careful what wood you use - I think coconut trees are porous and go soggy very quickly, but there must have been other species. And plenty of strong twine for binding, amongst all the jetsam.Two rafts even better - use them to seal off the entrance to the inlet, and string nets between them.
Dan_1981 said:
I didn't watch the program after the final episode which was meant to be Bear explaining lots more about how the Island was prepped etc - did it explain anything in any detail?
The after-show was good but didn't say anything about the Island being prepped. Watching them have their first meal when back on land was funny, like they'd all died and gone to heaven. It was grilled chicken, boiled rice and veg by the look of it.
nicanary said:
I'd been harping on to my family for weeks about how they had made no effort to make a raft, which would have enabled fishing further out into the bay. Amazing how one appeared in the last episode. I think you have to be careful what wood you use - I think coconut trees are porous and go soggy very quickly, but there must have been other species. And plenty of strong twine for binding, amongst all the jetsam.
Two rafts even better - use them to seal off the entrance to the inlet, and string nets between them.
Yeah, I'm suprised they didn't go for polynesian-style canoes, no saw to cut the timber with but you can still burn a tree down carefully...Two rafts even better - use them to seal off the entrance to the inlet, and string nets between them.
Does go to show though, just how much a few simple tools would make the world of difference.
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