24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4
Discussion
Glad it wasn't just me thinking the police looked lacking in judgement and out of their depth with this. Also they clearly gave one of the homeless guys a s
t load of cash for his information as they panned down to showing him wearing a brand new pair of expensive Nikes, or several bags of gears worth as he probably would have looked on the cost...
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Gameface said:
Police and especially the CPS are their own worst enemies sometimes.
They could've made the right charges stick but got greedy and royally fked it up. 6 months work for fk all.
I've been a beneficiary of such poor judgement by Essex police and the CPS. This is not an unusual occurrence.
Surprised they let their incompetence be broadcast.
It was a bit strange. When they questioned him further after his statement, they were saying he had made it up just reacting to the information they had released to him. Seemingly forgetting that the homeless guys statement backed what he was saying.....They could've made the right charges stick but got greedy and royally f
ked it up. 6 months work for fk all.I've been a beneficiary of such poor judgement by Essex police and the CPS. This is not an unusual occurrence.
Surprised they let their incompetence be broadcast.
And the liason woman on the phone who was passing the verdict back to the investigation team blamed the jury!
"I could tell what they were going to do"
"They were looking at him" (
)
"They were smiling at him"
Etc etc.
The smiling comment I find highly dubious. Any jury/defendant interaction can cause a mistrial and would have serious repercussions for the jurors.
But it's easier to blame the public than yourselves isn't it.
All the police have achieved was to spunk a stload of money up the wall, make themselves look incompetent, and gave that little scrote some massive street rep.
"I could tell what they were going to do"
"They were looking at him" (
)"They were smiling at him"
Etc etc.
The smiling comment I find highly dubious. Any jury/defendant interaction can cause a mistrial and would have serious repercussions for the jurors.
But it's easier to blame the public than yourselves isn't it.
All the police have achieved was to spunk a s
tload of money up the wall, make themselves look incompetent, and gave that little scrote some massive street rep.Gameface said:
And the liason woman on the phone who was passing the verdict back to the investigation team blamed the jury!
"I could tell what they were going to do"
"They were looking at him" ( )
"They were smiling at him"
Etc etc.
The smiling comment I find highly dubious. Any jury/defendant interaction can cause a mistrial and would have serious repercussions for the jurors.
But it's easier to blame the public than yourselves isn't it.
All the police have achieved was to spunk a stload of money up the wall, make themselves look incompetent, and gave that little scrote some massive street rep.
This is exactly what me and my missus were laughing at last night, deflection of the highest order, almost blaming the jury for not going along with their bizarre attempt and getting him on murder and attempted murder instead of just going for a charge they could have got something for. He also got 4 months but did 5 on remand, so I imagine he'll also get some compo for his extra month he had to do!"I could tell what they were going to do"
"They were looking at him" (
)"They were smiling at him"
Etc etc.
The smiling comment I find highly dubious. Any jury/defendant interaction can cause a mistrial and would have serious repercussions for the jurors.
But it's easier to blame the public than yourselves isn't it.
All the police have achieved was to spunk a s
tload of money up the wall, make themselves look incompetent, and gave that little scrote some massive street rep.Lead copper total arrogance.
Two scummy homeless cretins get stabbed, one dies....sorry...so what.
The footage of them going all mob handed with faces covered to rob a drug dealer....idiots.
Got what they deserved.
Yes the dealer isn't a good person either, but clearly in street war he made them look utter fools and nearly wiped two vermin out and made the rest piss themselves......
And he is what 14-16?
Not to mention he'll have bigger bosses who would of rounded up every one of them and popped them off even if they had of got away with a bag of gear and some money....
Sorry, every-time i saw the pictures of the homeless ones i just wished they had both died...
The law really is weird though....loads of tough talk about going to prison for 5-10 years just for having a knife, to then getting 4 months for having a knife and using it to defend yourself killing a person??!
Makes you see why people who need to protect themselves will always carry a knife...
Most likely saved his life....
I don't have an issue with the homeless, but those two looked like utter scum ex prison types who are not on the streets from bad hand in life but from being scum.....
Glad one died.....
Two scummy homeless cretins get stabbed, one dies....sorry...so what.
The footage of them going all mob handed with faces covered to rob a drug dealer....idiots.
Got what they deserved.
Yes the dealer isn't a good person either, but clearly in street war he made them look utter fools and nearly wiped two vermin out and made the rest piss themselves......
And he is what 14-16?
Not to mention he'll have bigger bosses who would of rounded up every one of them and popped them off even if they had of got away with a bag of gear and some money....
Sorry, every-time i saw the pictures of the homeless ones i just wished they had both died...
The law really is weird though....loads of tough talk about going to prison for 5-10 years just for having a knife, to then getting 4 months for having a knife and using it to defend yourself killing a person??!
Makes you see why people who need to protect themselves will always carry a knife...
Most likely saved his life....
I don't have an issue with the homeless, but those two looked like utter scum ex prison types who are not on the streets from bad hand in life but from being scum.....
Glad one died.....
The Mad Monk said:
Gameface said:
I could tell you a few stories about Essex police (that would astound you with their incompetence) and then their subsequent attempts to make sure it didn't become public.
OK.I am listening.
Multiple firearms offences, assaults, threats to kill, wounding, kidnapping, money laundering etc.
For example, the firearms case, involved 7 firearms offences including seizures of pump action shotguns, automatic handguns and ammunition and putting a gun to someone's head and threatening to kill them.
The local papers were robustly advised it wouldn't be their interests to print the story by associates of those arrested.
He could've/should've been looking at 15-20 years.
Awful right?
Long story short, due to a catalogue of errors involving disclosure, evidence gathering, procedural mistakes, basically lying through their f
king teeth, and the accused having a experienced criminal legal team, the person arrested ended up wearing a tag for 3 months. That's it.
When the papers heard that they thought it would be an even bigger story to highlight the incompetence of the police involved in such a serious and theoretically easy to close case.
So the police then basically made the papers quash the second story themselves to save their blushes.
Be under no illusions, the police are quite capable of acting the same as those outside the law when it suits them.
There are plenty of other stories but I'm loath to share any more right now.
Gameface said:
The Mad Monk said:
Gameface said:
I could tell you a few stories about Essex police (that would astound you with their incompetence) and then their subsequent attempts to make sure it didn't become public.
OK.I am listening.
Multiple firearms offences, assaults, threats to kill, wounding, kidnapping, money laundering etc.
For example, the firearms case, involved 7 firearms offences including seizures of pump action shotguns, automatic handguns and ammunition and putting a gun to someone's head and threatening to kill them.
The local papers were robustly advised it wouldn't be their interests to print the story by associates of those arrested.
He could've/should've been looking at 15-20 years.
Awful right?
Long story short, due to a catalogue of errors involving disclosure, evidence gathering, procedural mistakes, basically lying through their f
king teeth, and the accused having a experienced criminal legal team, the person arrested ended up wearing a tag for 3 months. That's it.
When the papers heard that they thought it would be an even bigger story to highlight the incompetence of the police involved in such a serious and theoretically easy to close case.
So the police then basically made the papers quash the second story themselves to save their blushes.
Be under no illusions, the police are quite capable of acting the same as those outside the law when it suits them.
There are plenty of other stories but I'm loath to share any more right now.
A bit light on detail and checkable facts. A link or two to the court case(s) would have been good. But, it's a start.
The Mad Monk said:
Right. Thanks for that.
A bit light on detail and checkable facts. A link or two to the court case(s) would have been good. But, it's a start.
It's a start??? What the fA bit light on detail and checkable facts. A link or two to the court case(s) would have been good. But, it's a start.
k do you think I owe you??? I don't have to tell you s
t.You want links, more information, you're talking to the wrong bloke.
The repercussions of that firearms case are still ongoing.
The judge was highly critical in his summation. He admonished the force involved for leaving him no choice but to administer such a trivial sentence.
The s
t flowed from the judge downwards. People's law enforcement careers were affected and as a result they made it a priority to try and take down those involved by other means, to save face.So why the f
k would I say more than I have?I only told you as courtesy and courtesy only goes so far...
The Mad Monk said:
Thesprucegoose said:
my experience of the police is they do lie to get convictions. I pled guilty but they still lied to bolster their case. It would clearly be habitual as it was pointless challenging them and they knew what to get away with.
pled.Is that a word?
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