Vintage Voltage. Quest TV

[CoolHands]

The delorean both doors opening thing was ridiculous. Also, don’t they ever show the Tesla drivetrains and how they implement them to the existing diff etc? I didn’t watch whole prog so may have missed it.

[bangerhoarder]

The doors should have been done with linear actuators IMO. I hope the frames are strong, because powerful gas struts can put a lot of stress onto the mounts. I really hope they put the door releases on separate channels, but that may be optimistic!

[gmaz]

CoolHands said:

The delorean both doors opening thing was ridiculous. Also, don’t they ever show the Tesla drivetrains and how they implement them to the existing diff etc? I didn’t watch whole prog so may have missed it.

On the DeLorean (and some other rear-engined/RWD cars), the diff is built into the Tesla Inverter/Motor/Diff unit, so the existing diff is discarded and the driveshafts go straight into the Tesla unit.

With front-engined, RWD cars they usually create an adaptor plate between the motor and the clutch bell housing, so the gearbox, propshaft and diff are kept.

[CoolHands]

Ah, thanks. Wonder where they get them from, crashed Teslas?

[CanAm]

V8covin said:

The De Lorean was probably the best conversion they've done, more power, better weight distribution

And the handling, of course, was "fantastic", despite the huge increase in front end weight, and apparently no modification to the suspension. Of course, they may have changed the spring-rates all round (as they have done once before) but the producers didn't think it was worth including it in the show, concentrating instead on the manufacture of two missing letters from the rear bumper.

And did I catch a glimpse of a mechanic working under a car on jacks?

[waynecyclist]

The Delorean looked very low on the front end to me.

[droopsnoot]

CoolHands said:

Ah, thanks. Wonder where they get them from, crashed Teslas?

I seem to recall reading that Tesla were quite open about their tech, maybe that makes it easy to get the parts.

[thegreenhell]

droopsnoot said:

CoolHands said:

Ah, thanks. Wonder where they get them from, crashed Teslas?

I seem to recall reading that Tesla were quite open about their tech, maybe that makes it easy to get the parts.

I can't remember if it was this place or another that I watched on youtube that showed racks of used Tesla drives, mostly sourced from breakers in the US.

[BadOrangePete]

Not seen this in a while just caught the DeLorean episode. Good car for an EV conversion IMO but why have they still not got any ramps in the unit? Always seem to be crawling around on the floor with the car on axle stands.

[OldGermanHeaps]

Biker 1 said:

Looked like a total bodge to me. Even the glands were cheap plastic items - surely they could have used nice brass fittings?

Brass into steel then out on salted roads? Recipie for disaster.

[waynecyclist]

Does anybody know if that was a genuine Mini Cooper that they did this week.

[ajprice]

waynecyclist said:

Does anybody know if that was a genuine Mini Cooper that they did this week.

I haven't seen this series, is it the Tesla Mini?

[bangerhoarder]

I’d guess that it was, a 998. Difficult to tell for a non-diehard, as the brakes were totally upgraded throughout. I’m not sure if it’s heresy with a Mini - they were modified from the beginning so I just see it as further evolution. I’d happily have one with 60bhp though!

[V8covin]

waynecyclist said:

Does anybody know if that was a genuine Mini Cooper that they did this week.

It was an 850 i think, definitely not a cooper

[CanAm]

A lot of weight added to the rear end and 300bhp going through period sized front wheels and tyres.
Did I miss the bit where they upgraded the brakes and suspension?

[V8covin]

CanAm said:

A lot of weight added to the rear end and 300bhp going through period sized front wheels and tyres.
Did I miss the bit where they upgraded the brakes and suspension?

40kg overall extra weight and front to rear balance 55/45..... that's better than a normal Mini surely ?

The owner did all the non EV work so they didn't say if the brakes and suspension had been uprated but clearly it wasn't on it's original drums

Edited by V8covin on Sunday 13th February 08:05

[eccles]

V8covin said:

CanAm said:

A lot of weight added to the rear end and 300bhp going through period sized front wheels and tyres.
Did I miss the bit where they upgraded the brakes and suspension?

40kg overall extra weight and front to rear balance 55/45..... that's better than a normal Mini surely ?

The owner did all the non EV work so they didn't say if the brakes and suspension had been uprated but clearly it wasn't on it's original drums

Edited by V8covin on Sunday 13th February 08:05

You could clearly see KAD brakes in several of the shots.

[CanAm]

eccles said:

V8covin said:

CanAm said:

A lot of weight added to the rear end and 300bhp going through period sized front wheels and tyres.
Did I miss the bit where they upgraded the brakes and suspension?

40kg overall extra weight and front to rear balance 55/45..... that's better than a normal Mini surely ?

The owner did all the non EV work so they didn't say if the brakes and suspension had been uprated but clearly it wasn't on it's original drums

Edited by V8covin on Sunday 13th February 08:05

You could clearly see KAD brakes in several of the shots.

Only an extra 40kg? That's pretty impressive. As for the weight distribution, unless the owner was told in advance what it was going to be, the spring rates and brake balance would be less than optimal.

Bearing in mind the shifting of weight away from the driving wheels I'm impressed that there was no sign of wheelspin from those small tyres, despite the huge increase in power and torque. I don't recall seeing any change in the gearing in the Tesla unit to compensate for the huge difference in overall wheel/tyre size either.

Unfortunately they do seem to skip much of the engineering in these programmes (or I missed it) so maybe they're much better than it seems.
I must watch it again on catchup then.

[waynecyclist]

The Mini must be more than 40kg heavier with battery pack etc.

[V8covin]

CanAm said:

Only an extra 40kg? That's pretty impressive. As for the weight distribution, unless the owner was told in advance what it was going to be, the spring rates and brake balance would be less than optimal.

Bearing in mind the shifting of weight away from the driving wheels I'm impressed that there was no sign of wheelspin from those small tyres, despite the huge increase in power and torque. I don't recall seeing any change in the gearing in the Tesla unit to compensate for the huge difference in overall wheel/tyre size either.

Unfortunately they do seem to skip much of the engineering in these programmes (or I missed it) so maybe they're much better than it seems.
I must watch it again on catchup then.

There's a YouTube video
https://youtu.be/fKWe1R1bWOM