Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

[MOBB]

chris watton said:

My favourite episode of this season still remains episode 4..

Ep4 is in my top 3 of all time, along with The Mountain and the Viper, and Battle of the bds

The power of that dragonfire attack on a good tv & sound system combo is breathtaking

[jingars]

ali_kat said:

Sway said:

Halb said:

mrtwisty said:

Did anyone else spot the eyes on Longclaw's wolf head pommel turn blue? What was that about?

YOur drink being spiked?

Edited by Halb on Tuesday 22 August 10:25

Loads online about it - apparently the eye opens when Jorah gives it back to Jon, then when it's lying on the ice waiting for Jon to become the ice swimming champion the eye turns blue...

I didn't see it, but lots are positing that it is somehow Longclaw turning into Lightbringer.

Or could just be grasping at straws.

I think it's just reflections

I have just re-watched this scene and the eye "turns blue" when it is splashed with water as John thrashes around in his attempt to extract himself from the lake; it is pretty obvious when you look for it.

[kowalski655]

4x4Tyke said:

Bullett said:

Is Arya going to go to KL with Brienne?
It gets her close to Cersai with little bother.

Wearing LF's face .

Which of his many accents will she use?

[paulrockliffe]

chris watton said:

It is a shame, I am sure the timeline regarding Gendry could have been resolved by the writers making Dany pre-empt the danger and flying off to help them before the raven reached her.

Problem with that is that it obviously should have been pre-empted at the point the 'plan' was considered, because a bad outcome was inevitable it was such a daft plan.

Still not sure why we need a thing for Cersei, less risky just to burn her in her tower and move on.

[hornetrider]

paulrockliffe said:

Still not sure why we need a thing for Cersei, less risky just to burn her in her tower and move on.

Surely it's obvious. Hollywood cheese ste plot demands a face off between all the main protagonists with cutting dialogue.

[4x4Tyke]

chris watton said:

It is a shame, I am sure the timeline regarding Gendry could have been resolved by the writers making Dany pre-empt the danger and flying off to help them before the raven reached her. That would have made more sense. However, as we have seen with other great film people (Ridley Scott, for example), common sense doesn't seem to register.

My favourite episode of this season still remains episode 4..

They could have had Drogon getting agitated, sensing Jon's trouble after making a connection last episode. Then Dany arriving at East Watch as Gendry did, plausible and underlines the connections we sort of know have to be made.

[FourWheelDrift]

I wonder if Sam who's probably on his way back to Castle Black will stop off at Winterfell and meet Bran again and have a chat about the birds the bees and hang on a minute did you say annulment Gilly. In this to finish off the series or will they keep that till series 8.

As long as little Sam hasn't eaten the page.



Actually I'm betting at Daenery's and Jon's wedding, Sam the best man says "oh, here's a raven message from Bran"...

[4x4Tyke]

Halb said:

Good spot on the mountain, though not sure why the WW would be marching their wights around like in a MOntuy Python sketch...also means that Gendry is one helluva runner!

Thanks, when I first watched it I was certain, then after you challenged it I started to doubt myself because I really struggled to find a picture with full scene.

Marshalling forces into a staging area is very important part of military strategy, so I can easily suspend disbelief on that.

[4x4Tyke]

ZesPak said:

Patrick Bateman said:

If ever a show benefited from re-watching, it's this.

Indeed, just fell on this little gem.
Listen to this at 0:44:

https://youtu.be/CJw7nqSwDHs?t=45s

Good one, also the crazed looking statue at the end.

[gregs656]

I'm slightly frustrated by them jumping on the gas peddle for this season. Reminds me of some books which are all beginning and end.

4x4Tyke said:

In the show they talk of reforging Valyrian steel, but they actually show them recasting the new swords with molten metal from ICE. Forging is working red hot bar or billet but forging is how swords are actually made. These produce steel with different properties, casting producing relatively hard and brittle steel, while forging is more ductile and durable.

The properties of the finished product like a sword are not really down to whether it was cast or forged but how it was normalised and heat treated. Without a good heat treat you can easily have a brittle forged sword, for example.

The Valyrian steel on the show doesn't appear to have layering like etched damascus or a hamon like a traditional Japanese sword.

[Guffy]

MOBB said:

chris watton said:

My favourite episode of this season still remains episode 4..

Ep4 is in my top 3 of all time, along with The Mountain and the Viper, and Battle of the bds

The power of that dragonfire attack on a good tv & sound system combo is breathtaking

Agree with all of this!

Thought this weeks Thronecast was pretty dire.

I reckon the hound is going to sacrifice himself in a blaze of fire to save someone.

[blueg33]

Guffy said:

I reckon the hound is going to sacrifice himself in a blaze of fire to save someone.

Arya?

[4x4Tyke]

gregs656 said:

The properties of the finished product like a sword are not really down to whether it was cast or forged but how it was normalised and heat treated. Without a good heat treat you can easily have a brittle forged sword, for example.

The Valyrian steel on the show doesn't appear to have layering like etched damascus or a hamon like a traditional Japanese sword.

True regarding tempering but it would be necessary even with a forged sword, but the original point was that casting would not produce a usable sword and casting is what is shown.

Nearly all the VS swords we've seen have patterning, Longclaw has a regular(ish) pattern suggesting pattern welding which is a kind of forging, Ice has an irregular Damascus like pattern.

Click for close ups.

[ali_kat]

p1doc said:

I thought I was because the one had been reanimated by a different WW
Hound proved himself scared against bear and stupid showing wights how strong ice is,not a good start to hero role lol
how fast is gendry-must have been all those years rowing....

Could be!

The Hound was scared of the fire, not the Bear.

[Wobbegong]

kowalski655 said:

4x4Tyke said:

Bullett said:

Is Arya going to go to KL with Brienne?
It gets her close to Cersai with little bother.

Wearing LF's face .

Which of his many accents will she use?

I'm predicting the Japanese-Geordie

[siovey]

Loving it so far. But...

I'm having problems believing that Arya has fallen hook , line and sinker for Little finger's plan. It seems hard to believe that after all she's been through she would be so easy to con in the space of a couple of episodes.

I'm really hoping she is playing him rather than the other way round...I'm looking forward to that tt getting what he deserves.

[glazbagun]

siovey said:

Loving it so far. But...

I'm having problems believing that Arya has fallen hook , line and sinker for Little finger's plan. It seems hard to believe that after all she's been through she would be so easy to con in the space of a couple of episodes.

I'm really hoping she is playing him rather than the other way round...I'm looking forward to that tt getting what he deserves.

I hope he survives to sit on the throne. He's the character I've loved to hate since he threw Lysa through the moon door and his plan clicked into place.

I can't help feel that littlefinger is smarter than the writers, though, and he'll be outsmarted in some unbeliavable way that will suck.

I doubt he believes in the WW, so I reckon that could be where he comes unstuck. I loved his line about imagining everything all the time, versus Bran's actually knowing the whole past but not the future.

Cersei is a great villan but I don't see much villany for her to do now. It really does feel like she's being kept around, and Arya kept stupid, by the writers.

Unless Arya giving the dagger to Sansa was a hint. Which it probably wasn't.

[Sheets Tabuer]

Arya was playing the game of many faces, look at everything she said to Sansa. She's got it sussed.

[J4CKO]

Sheets Tabuer said:

Arya was playing the game of many faces, look at everything she said to Sansa. She's got it sussed.

I reckon Little Finger will meet and untimely demise on a tiny sword.

[gregs656]

4x4Tyke said:

True regarding tempering but it would be necessary even with a forged sword, but the original point was that casting would not produce a usable sword and casting is what is shown.

Casting is just one step though. Perhaps the wording is clumsy but I don't think saying a sword has been reforged into two blades and showing a shot of casting is necessarily wrong, in the same way you could say a road has been relaid and have a shot of a road being dug up.

The end result of forging is a sword shaped object, not a useable sword; it has to be normalised, heat treated, ground etc.

I hadn't seen close ups. Certainly looks like they are using pattern welded (damascus by another name) swords or elements of them. On long claw it may be the fuller has been acid etched but the bevels not.