Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

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Sheets Tabuer

19,167 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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J4CKO said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Arya was playing the game of many faces, look at everything she said to Sansa. She's got it sussed.
I reckon Little Finger will meet and untimely demise on a tiny sword.
Been saying it a while, he's a dead man walking

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I thought (though happy to be corrected), that after the initial smelting of the alloy, if you then remelted it all the crystal structure was irreparably changed and much of the properties lost?

With the hammering stage of forging not only forming the rough shape but also percussively ensuring the crystal structure d aligned and therefore as strong /ductile as you desire in a bladed weapon?

glazbagun

14,322 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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J4CKO said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Arya was playing the game of many faces, look at everything she said to Sansa. She's got it sussed.
I reckon Little Finger will meet and untimely demise on a tiny sword.
He's doubtless a master liar. I wonder how good Arya is at seeing through them. I remember my joy when she kept insisting she hated the hound!

https://youtu.be/LkVRX-L7WIM

The Count

3,279 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Ructions said:
So the Nights King is a former Olympic javelin gold medalist.


yes

Spanna

3,732 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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hornetrider said:
gadgetmac said:
I'd agree with that. They show snippets of next weeks show on Thronecast too.
I'm a spoiler Nazi and am firmly of the view that the previews are definitely not spoilers, as they're in the public domain.
Can confirm hornetrider is the Goebbels of TV spoilers. I remember various rants in TWD thread for reference, all spot on.

On rewatching there's a lot to like about episode 6 that goes a bit to the wayside by the Hollywood cheese unfortunately. Needless sacrifice of Benjen, miraculous Jon surviving the water, random extras dying during the fight that hadn't been seen as part of the group and all round ste plan in the first place. The type of character actions expected on TWD, but at least they didn't give their graphics to The Walking Dead guys on the animals! (That infamous deer) The bear was genuinely frightening and the dragons are spectacular.


Sheets Tabuer

19,167 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Part of her training was seeing through lies hence the game, go and look what she says again to sansa.

The game of faces is to see if someone is lying to you, remember if you fail to spot a lie in the game you are not no one.

Now she knows Sansa isn't lying but LF is, she is no one, a follower of death and death is her gift

gregs656

10,958 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Sway said:
I thought (though happy to be corrected), that after the initial smelting of the alloy, if you then remelted it all the crystal structure was irreparably changed and much of the properties lost?

With the hammering stage of forging not only forming the rough shape but also percussively ensuring the crystal structure d aligned and therefore as strong /ductile as you desire in a bladed weapon?
I don't see why it would be irreparable, it's just a solution after all.

The crystal structure of steel changes every time it is heated until it is non-magnetic (for all intents and purposes). The idea that forging inherently improves the steel is incorrect, you are more likely to introduce negative changes than positive ones due to the number of heat cycles. In a GoT type set up there is no choice, of course.

A sword or a knife is forged - heated to non-magnetic to reset the grain structure - quenched (hard and brittle) - normalised/stress relieved - tempered

It could be ground before or after it is heat treated. I'd say these days the vast majority of knife makers do it afterward as the thicker stock is less likely to warp or crack, and prior to HT the steel is gummy on abrasives. For very wear resistant steels you don't have much choice though.

ZesPak

24,455 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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HairyPoppins said:
ZesPak said:
Patrick Bateman said:
If ever a show benefited from re-watching, it's this.
Indeed, just fell on this little gem.
Listen to this at 0:44:

https://youtu.be/CJw7nqSwDHs?t=45s
Don't get it.
She ended up dying in a circle of dead sparrows.

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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gregs656 said:
Sway said:
I thought (though happy to be corrected), that after the initial smelting of the alloy, if you then remelted it all the crystal structure was irreparably changed and much of the properties lost?

With the hammering stage of forging not only forming the rough shape but also percussively ensuring the crystal structure d aligned and therefore as strong /ductile as you desire in a bladed weapon?
I don't see why it would be irreparable, it's just a solution after all.

The crystal structure of steel changes every time it is heated until it is non-magnetic (for all intents and purposes). The idea that forging inherently improves the steel is incorrect, you are more likely to introduce negative changes than positive ones due to the number of heat cycles. In a GoT type set up there is no choice, of course.

A sword or a knife is forged - heated to non-magnetic to reset the grain structure - quenched (hard and brittle) - normalised/stress relieved - tempered

It could be ground before or after it is heat treated. I'd say these days the vast majority of knife makers do it afterward as the thicker stock is less likely to warp or crack, and prior to HT the steel is gummy on abrasives. For very wear resistant steels you don't have much choice though.
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As I posted earlier, all my knowledge has come from a recent discovery of Forged in Fire on the History channel, which has prompted me to learn some knife making in the new year.

Love the charcoal forges, and was amazed to hear they get hotter than gas ones!

Halb

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53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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ZesPak said:
She ended up dying in a circle of dead sparrows.
Oooo that's good.


Sadly LF is one of the ones whom they clearly don't have any notes for, so they have to have him hanging around creeping on the edges.

gregs656

10,958 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Sway said:
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As I posted earlier, all my knowledge has come from a recent discovery of Forged in Fire on the History channel, which has prompted me to learn some knife making in the new year.

Love the charcoal forges, and was amazed to hear they get hotter than gas ones!
There is a mini series called Forged in Britain. Owen Bush has an episode. He does lots of the TV blade smithing stuff in the UK. Top bloke by all accounts.

Halb

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53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I went and rewatched the sword bit.
It looks to me like a water droplet collecting on the eye.

gregs656

10,958 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Halb said:
I went and rewatched the sword bit.
It looks to me like a water droplet collecting on the eye.
Some speculation the stone is a shaft and it's his glove changing the colour.

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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gregs656 said:
Some speculation the stone is a shaft and it's his glove changing the colour.
A shaft?

gregs656

10,958 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Halb said:
A shaft?
As in both eyes are the same stone; if you look into one eye the light comes through from the other eye. So the black glove on a white background in front of one eye would change the colour of the other eye.

Sheets Tabuer

19,167 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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The director of the episode said they didn't do anything to the sword it must have been a water droplet landing on it.

Halb

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53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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gregs656 said:
As in both eyes are the same stone; if you look into one eye the light comes through from the other eye. So the black glove on a white background in front of one eye would change the colour of the other eye.
Yeah I can see that, with the movement of the second hand there are more droplets of water, the eye clearly glistens

SlimJim16v

5,795 posts

145 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Watched it again and it looks like a reflection.

Ructions

4,705 posts

123 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Will zombie Hodor make a return in the series finale?

GravelBen

15,759 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Ructions said:
Will zombie Hodor make a return in the series finale?
Zombie Hodor vs Zombie Mountain? Clash of the titans! hehe