BBC Top Gear 2018 Thread

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Oakey

27,619 posts

218 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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There were interesting aerial shots during the Star in a car bit, is that new?

PositronicRay

27,154 posts

185 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Formulaic
Clichéd
Tired

Despite all this I quite enjoyed it, could be so much better with a little original thought though.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

247 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Escort3500 said:
My feelings too. MLB comes across as a genuine petrolhead and achieves the right balance of humour and knowledgeable commentary.
His little anecdote about driving his cousin's Camaro as he wasn't old enough to drive it, and by the time he was the transmission was fked made me laugh.

I wonder that when they binned JC if they'd just replaced him with MLB you'd still have a killer show. Agreed with the consensus that Rory is the weakest link and that he's not going anywhere.



Mr Happy

5,701 posts

222 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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I really enjoyed it overall. Ok, so some was a bit meh (doing laps to beat the GT40's time was a bit dull) but it was pretty damn good as a season opener.

Extra Gear with John Hennessey was also pretty good, and it's never a bad day when Harris is sliding a car round a track!

Escort3500

11,967 posts

147 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Europa1 said:
DrSteveBrule said:
I've been in the audience twice this series, once for the first show and again for the last (filmed on Saturday just gone). Rory doesn't even make it as far as the sofas and the number of lines he has in the studio could be counted on two fingers. He is so sidelined it's untrue, I feel sorry for the guy.

They even manage to edge him out in the filmed segment of the last show. Perhaps he makes a decent cup of tea? I'm struggling to think what else he contributes to the show.

I'm sure he's a nice guy and all that but they need someone stronger. Hammond was immensely annoying but at least he registered on your conscious whereas Rory doesn't really have any presence whatsoever.
I was there for the filming of the first show, and he spent most of the afternoon watching proceedings from a gantry overlooking the set (basically behind the big circular platform that the red cars are displayed on). I felt quite sorry for the guy as well.
I don’t feel sorry for him, he’s just not up to the job.


anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Escort3500 said:
I don’t feel sorry for him, he’s just not up to the job.
Well... basically you're right, I was trying to be magnanimous.

Doofus

26,382 posts

175 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Escort3500 said:
I don’t feel sorry for him, he’s just not up to the job.
How do you know? He's not exactly been given the chance, has he.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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I think Rory adds a good balance to the team, not sure why so much hate for him, he is doing a good job. I think a lot watch just to pick it apart and moan about it.

p1stonhead

25,800 posts

169 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Doofus said:
Escort3500 said:
I don’t feel sorry for him, he’s just not up to the job.
How do you know? He's not exactly been given the chance, has he.
I mean this is the third series he has featured in.

But overall I think he is ok to be honest. Not incredible but not horrendous.

Merc 450

976 posts

101 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
Merc 450 said:
Antony Moxey said:
Great opening episode, and the chemistry between the three is building nicely. Not much to not like, the chain racing looked a proper hoot. Of the three cars I think I’d take the Jag, out accelerated the other two comfortably, a fraction of the price of the McLaren and the Mustang couldn’t use half its power.

Series looks like it’ll be a good ‘un.
My Mustang was £42K a fraction of the price of the mclaren and half the value of the jag, surely the best bang for buck of the three (i know mines a 5.0 GT and the Hennessy would be nearer the price of the jag)
The standard GT350R is a weapon & nothing like the GT, it's a completely different engine (N/A 5.2 Flat plane crank V8) for starters the suspension etc if you want to see how really good it is watch the links below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4f4q52J9qY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNifBdm_o4

The one MLB was driving was a Hennessey tuned (via a Supercharger) version which is where the 850bhp comes from, in standard form the GT350R would be close to that 570GT around a track & leave the Jaguar for dead take a look at Randy Pobsts lap times board at Laguna & Big Willow then look at the cars that are below (458/GT3 at Laguna for starters) it on the list, have no doubt about how good it is.

They're 65k in the states but in reality you'll pay 70-85k if you want one.

I forgot to add that Hennessey recommends the 630 conversion if you actually want to improve laptimes.

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Sunday 25th February 22:56
Thanks for the links, I was thinking of putting Roush exhausts on mine but my nieghbours are 99 and 85 so I will stick with the standard ones which are loud enough for now. (it is true race red manuals are louderbiggrin)

Clockwork Cupcake

74,975 posts

274 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
I think Rory adds a good balance to the team, not sure why so much hate for him
Well, he's not a white middle-aged man, so is not in the PH demographic. wink

gadgit

971 posts

269 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
I think Rory adds a good balance to the team, not sure why so much hate for him, he is doing a good job. I think a lot watch just to pick it apart and moan about it.
I don't think people hate him at all. To me he is just a nice guy, which is nice.
He did some good reports on cars in the last series that were imformative and sensible which is what I like.
Unfortunately I believe he does not get the chance to do that any more, which is a great shame. Nice guys like Rory being sensible is not what the top gear people running the show want today, he will be taken out for the wrong reasons in the end, because he is not allowed to be who he is!

Most people on this thread are not here to be picky, they are desperate for some good motoring journalism that they can relate to. Unfortunately the way things are going, this might not happen.....
They still have time to redress the problem in the next few episodes, but I'm not holding my breath.

Gadgit

thegreenhell

15,846 posts

221 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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gadgit said:
Most people on this thread are not here to be picky, they are desperate for some good motoring journalism that they can relate to. Unfortunately the way things are going, this might not happen.....
They still have time to redress the problem in the next few episodes, but I'm not holding my breath.
There's plenty of good motoring journalism to be found on youtube if that's what people are looking for. TG is a Sunday evening light entertainment show designed to appeal to the widest possible audience, for ratings.

Heres Johnny

7,268 posts

126 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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thegreenhell said:
There's plenty of good motoring journalism to be found on youtube if that's what people are looking for. TG is a Sunday evening light entertainment show designed to appeal to the widest possible audience, for ratings.
Yep.. /Chris Harris on cars..

I liked TG.. much better than the GT “save the world” ste they ended on.

DanielSan

18,866 posts

169 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
I think Rory adds a good balance to the team, not sure why so much hate for him, he is doing a good job. I think a lot watch just to pick it apart and moan about it.
This. On the reviews he’s done on his own I think he does a good job personally, he gives a more normal blokes view on how good a car is, especially as many people on here like to think they’re better than Chris Harris begins the wheel, they’re really not.

Saying that watching him do the track driving in last nights episode it looks like his driving has improved massively since the last series.

Yipper

5,964 posts

92 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Viewing figures for Episode 1 last night were bad.

Only ~2.4m UK viewers tuned in.

That is down roughly -70% from the Clarkson peak, down -50% from the Evans peak, and -15% down from the first episode last year.

carl_w

9,250 posts

260 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Thankfully they've got rid of the "comedian" doing Extra Gear.

Not a fan of Rory in the main show but he seems good on Extra Gear.

G13NVL

2,890 posts

86 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Edited by ZX10R NIN on Sunday 25th February 22:56

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Thanks for the links, I was thinking of putting Roush exhausts on mine but my nieghbours are 99 and 85 so I will stick with the standard ones which are loud enough for now. (it is true race red manuals are louderbiggrin)

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Is the roush exhaust not a valved system so can be quiet and loud on the click of a switch? Heard one near me a few weeks ago that was really loud but I thought sounded incredible! After watching that top gear all my time has been on YouTube mustang videos biggrin

davidc1

1,553 posts

164 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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I thought last nights episode was bang average. Like they were remaking an episode from 10 hears ago. But i dont blame the presenters rather the producers. Chris on youtube was a master.best in the world. Sad to see him reduced to this....

Rich_W

12,548 posts

214 months

Monday 26th February 2018
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Gameface said:
Why do they persist with someone bring an envelope challenge still?
because it was always Top Gears idea. So they are entitled to

V88Dicky said:
I'm sure Matt just slipped the F word in, when they were saying how loud that NASCAR was

yikeshehe
yeslaugh Neatly done though. No bleeps, no drawing attention to it.

Gameface said:
Don't think much of Reid's ability behind the wheel.
OK we get that you are a TGT diehard fanboi.


You prefer Hammonds? laugh

Rawwr said:
I really liked it. It somehow seems more colourful and crisp than The Grand Tour and I feel like I'm seeing more cars and more of the cars.

Even Rory seems to have relaxed a bit.
I don't support ther idea of a licence fee. And they can be far from independent politically. But there are some very good operators at the BBC producing great TV

Antony Moxey said:
... and the chemistry between the three is building nicely.
AnotherClarkey said:
Good enough start, makes Grand Tour look rather sad. Even the 'banter' <shudder> was better than CHM who seem to have totally run out of chemistry.
I agree. It's just time together. Put any 3 guys together for that amount of time enjoying themselves and banter hehe will follow. It's true of guys in general. The piss taking via radio in the cars looked natural.

gmaz said:
poosemon said:
- Another thing that annoyed me is the whole look theres an empty runway, im sure they wont mind us trespassing on it etc. Its tired and underestimating the audience imo.
Perhaps you would like them to include 30 minutes of footage getting permits filled in and signed, health & safety forms, insurance forms, negotiating with local government officials etc?
This has to be the weirdest criticism of any show ever laugh Unless Ive missed the sarcasm....

marcosgt said:
Personally, I miss James May, he was always the best bit of the old TG team, but having dropped the truly awful "ME, ME,ME,ME, ME" Evans, they seem to have come up with a workable team who are enjoyable enough to watch.

I can honestly say, I never once thought "This would be so much better with the old team", although I did think "Oh, for God's sake" a couple of times!

M
I wonder if when his TGT contract expires we'll see Mr May come back for a few episodes. Like Eddie Jordan does occasionally. Be some coup if the BBC could pull that off.


Anyhow

Road Trip. I enjoyed it and it was different, but a bit overlong
SIARPC - I like Bryden. And I like the in car training vids. But it's always the weakest part of the show. Interesting to get the guest to commentate

Just felt like there should have been a standalone test in there somewhere.

6.8/10
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