Star Trek: Discovery - New series on Netflix
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eltawater said:
DodgyGeezer said:
eltawater said:
Great, now we have to worry about the frickkin' computer crying!
oh do tell 
Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
t hole of a premise about AI....rider73 said:
eltawater said:
DodgyGeezer said:
eltawater said:
Great, now we have to worry about the frickkin' computer crying!
oh do tell Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
t hole of a premise about AI....DodgyGeezer said:
rider73 said:
eltawater said:
DodgyGeezer said:
eltawater said:
Great, now we have to worry about the frickkin' computer crying!
oh do tell Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
t hole of a premise about AI....eltawater said:
It's as you'd expect.
Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
I actually thought you were joking. Until I watched it. You weren't kidding.Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
Sheesh.
Flip Martian said:
eltawater said:
It's as you'd expect.
Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
I actually thought you were joking. Until I watched it. You weren't kidding.Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
Sheesh.
Is "Zora" a take on "Dora?" As in "Dora the Explorer" because their mission is to explore. Or maybe it's too cry a lot. Like I said, I've long since given up...
I've ducked out now and won't be going back. I had high hopes for Star Trek: Strange New Worlds with Captain Pike and Spock which is due soon but I've just discovered it's the same bunch of script writers and producers as Discovery.
Apparently their mission is to show inclusivity to the young generation watching the series.
Apparently their mission is to show inclusivity to the young generation watching the series.
You can have inclusivity without everyone stopping to tell a sob story or bear their emotions every 5 minutes, or reminding viewers HOW INCLUSIVE THEY'RE BEING. The other STs all managed it. Every series has had black and female actors in profile roles, stories about gender and/or sexuality (well, maybe TOS didn't do the latter but that was the 60s)
If they have Pike crying or telling Spock about childhood issues every 5 minutes, I'll give up though.
If they have Pike crying or telling Spock about childhood issues every 5 minutes, I'll give up though.
essayer said:
Stopped now. I don’t care about the perceived wokeness or whatever.. it’s just not fun enough even to hatewatch
this was my issue - I loved the look of it absolutely beautiful. Sadly the script (and in many cases acting) was nowhere near the same standard - I think primary schools could have done better. That said I'm (by their standards) old and they're looking to hook a new generation which likes shinyshiny with no substance so who's to say it's not the right decisionFlip Martian said:
You can have inclusivity without everyone stopping to tell a sob story or bear their emotions every 5 minutes, or reminding viewers HOW INCLUSIVE THEY'RE BEING. The other STs all managed it. Every series has had black and female actors in profile roles, stories about gender and/or sexuality (well, maybe TOS didn't do the latter but that was the 60s)
If they have Pike crying or telling Spock about childhood issues every 5 minutes, I'll give up though.
This is true, the Expanse illustrates this beautifully.If they have Pike crying or telling Spock about childhood issues every 5 minutes, I'll give up though.
techguyone said:
Flip Martian said:
You can have inclusivity without everyone stopping to tell a sob story or bear their emotions every 5 minutes, or reminding viewers HOW INCLUSIVE THEY'RE BEING. The other STs all managed it. Every series has had black and female actors in profile roles, stories about gender and/or sexuality (well, maybe TOS didn't do the latter but that was the 60s)
If they have Pike crying or telling Spock about childhood issues every 5 minutes, I'll give up though.
This is true, the Expanse illustrates this beautifully.If they have Pike crying or telling Spock about childhood issues every 5 minutes, I'll give up though.
Best Sci-Fi series in a long time.
Flip Martian said:
eltawater said:
It's as you'd expect.
Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
I actually thought you were joking. Until I watched it. You weren't kidding.Discovery's main computer, self named Zora (who's been a pretty good computer core up till now) develops feelings and feels overwhelmed. Zora has a bit of bad luck and loses a crew member, causing a crisis of confidence and refuses to operate the ship anymore. But with the help of Michael Burnham, who gives a pep talk on how to be a good computer core again, Zora turns it around and saves the crew....
Sheesh.
With all that I have previously seen of Discovery, a plot where the computer has a crisis of confidence certainly isn't surprising. Nor of course is it a surprise that Diverse Space Jesus steps in to save the day. What a heap of crap this travesty is.
digimeistter said:
Doesn't it just!
Best Sci-Fi series in a long time.
Yeah, just watched the latest episode. Fantastic stuff - only two more to go though before the end of the series (90 min Finale though).Best Sci-Fi series in a long time.
Plenty of 'diversity' in the Expanse cast except that the writers don't make any sort of a song or dance about it - just regular people of all creeds and colours in a great story as it should be. What a pity that 'on-message' virtue-signalling crap like Discovery keeps getting funded when good sci-fi is few and far between.
Lucas Ayde said:
LOL. I gave up on this turd of a show after the first 10 mins of Ep1 of this season. It got so hard to watch I just couldn't put myself through it any more.
With all that I have previously seen of Discovery, a plot where the computer has a crisis of confidence certainly isn't surprising. Nor of course is it a surprise that Diverse Space Jesus steps in to save the day. What a heap of crap this travesty is.
I wonder if in 40 years we'll look back at this ilk of programme as people do at stuff like Knight Rider and A-Team from back then.With all that I have previously seen of Discovery, a plot where the computer has a crisis of confidence certainly isn't surprising. Nor of course is it a surprise that Diverse Space Jesus steps in to save the day. What a heap of crap this travesty is.
Ivo Shandor said:
Lucas Ayde said:
LOL. I gave up on this turd of a show after the first 10 mins of Ep1 of this season. It got so hard to watch I just couldn't put myself through it any more.
With all that I have previously seen of Discovery, a plot where the computer has a crisis of confidence certainly isn't surprising. Nor of course is it a surprise that Diverse Space Jesus steps in to save the day. What a heap of crap this travesty is.
I wonder if in 40 years we'll look back at this ilk of programme as people do at stuff like Knight Rider and A-Team from back then.With all that I have previously seen of Discovery, a plot where the computer has a crisis of confidence certainly isn't surprising. Nor of course is it a surprise that Diverse Space Jesus steps in to save the day. What a heap of crap this travesty is.
Now we have utter bilge being made to please a clique of crazy zealots who don't even watch the entertainment programs that they ruin.
Lucas Ayde said:
digimeistter said:
Doesn't it just!
Best Sci-Fi series in a long time.
Yeah, just watched the latest episode. Fantastic stuff - only two more to go though before the end of the series (90 min Finale though).Best Sci-Fi series in a long time.
Plenty of 'diversity' in the Expanse cast except that the writers don't make any sort of a song or dance about it - just regular people of all creeds and colours in a great story as it should be. What a pity that 'on-message' virtue-signalling crap like Discovery keeps getting funded when good sci-fi is few and far between.
In Real Star Trek they had an unlikely post-scarcity post tribal vibe, but once your on board with that they use foreign races/environments to explore those values- a planet with the death penalty for everything, a race who get offended by body language, a race who want to assimilate anything and everything including you, an empire who are just powerful as f
k - now how do your high ideals survive these foreign threats. What about if those threats are existential?In STD these debates (if you can call them that) are going on among the crew itself, usually with Burnham taking the role of Jesus and crying before proving she was right all along. Again. For three whole series.
I see JMS is rebooting Babylon 5. I hold that series and the cast dear, so I'm terrified he might screw something up, but then given what he made with what he had in the 90's I've faith that he'll give it his best shot.
Edited by glazbagun on Friday 31st December 22:37
Lucas Ayde said:
Yeah, just watched the latest episode. Fantastic stuff - only two more to go though before the end of the series (90 min Finale though).
Plenty of 'diversity' in the Expanse cast except that the writers don't make any sort of a song or dance about it - just regular people of all creeds and colours in a great story as it should be. What a pity that 'on-message' virtue-signalling crap like Discovery keeps getting funded when good sci-fi is few and far between.
Wonder if it will make it to a season 5?Plenty of 'diversity' in the Expanse cast except that the writers don't make any sort of a song or dance about it - just regular people of all creeds and colours in a great story as it should be. What a pity that 'on-message' virtue-signalling crap like Discovery keeps getting funded when good sci-fi is few and far between.
I'm quite surprised it got a season 4 to be honest and even stopped hate watching it after episode 1 of season 4
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