The Crash Detectives BBC

[Dashnine]

Berger 3rd said:

Can’t remember the series or episode, but there was the front seat passenger who’d plugged the seatbelt in to stop the audible warning, and than sat on it, surely far more effort than just putting it on? Truly bizarre people.

Both front seat belts in the Focus of the first episode of the latest series were plugged in with the belt behind the seat. Rear belts were tucked behind the folding seat backs.

It's concerning that people like these featured on this programme drive amongst us. Don't understand how, with ANPR etc. they aren't taken off the road sooner before they ruin peoples lives.

[Megaflow]

Berger 3rd said:

Can’t remember the series or episode, but there was the front seat passenger who’d plugged the seatbelt in to stop the audible warning, and than sat on it, surely far more effort than just putting it on? Truly bizarre people.

A lot of people do that sadly, it is no effort at all though, because they only do it once when they get the car.

[Berger 3rd]

Just seems so odd you’d sit on a seatbelt rather than put one on. I genuinely feel odd without a seatbelt and would struggle to drive a few yards a without the weird feeling becoming too much and having to put it on. It really is one of the most baffling things.

Edited by Berger 3rd on Wednesday 25th October 12:19

[ro250]

Eric Mc said:

I am gobsmacked by the number of people who people who think that not wearing a seat belt is OK. What on earth types of brains do they have?

I think it's a point of rebellion. Simply that because it's the law to wear one, many of lower intelligence just instantly want to not conform and they aren't bright enough to realise that there's a good reason you have to wear one.

[Bonefish Blues]

ro250 said:

Eric Mc said:

I am gobsmacked by the number of people who people who think that not wearing a seat belt is OK. What on earth types of brains do they have?

I think it's a point of rebellion. Simply that because it's the law to wear one, many of lower intelligence just instantly want to not conform and they aren't bright enough to realise that there's a good reason you have to wear one.

They really stick it to the man. And their windscreens.

[number2]

Bonefish Blues said:

ro250 said:

Eric Mc said:

I am gobsmacked by the number of people who people who think that not wearing a seat belt is OK. What on earth types of brains do they have?

I think it's a point of rebellion. Simply that because it's the law to wear one, many of lower intelligence just instantly want to not conform and they aren't bright enough to realise that there's a good reason you have to wear one.

They really stick it to the man. And their windscreens.

It is incompressible.

It is sad that someone going about their business, lawfully and sensibly, can be injured or killed by these absolute s. There's not much you can do if someone is coming at you head on round a poorly sighted bend - last week's episode.

The motorcyclist in this episode was an absolute . The focus driver stopped - a natural panic reaction to something coming towards you I would think - I wonder whether if he had continued to take his turn, the outcome would have been different. I'm in no way blaming the focus driver for anything here, just exploring people's reactions to suddenly being exposed to potential danger.

I've seen this reaction many times before - people pull out of a junction, see a car coming and stop! I'm not talking about a dangerous pull out either.

[WPA]

number2 said:

The focus driver stopped - a natural panic reaction to something coming towards you I would think - I wonder whether if he had continued to take his turn, the outcome would have been different. I'm in no way blaming the focus driver for anything here, just exploring people's reactions to suddenly being exposed to potential danger.

I've seen this reaction many times before - people pull out of a junction, see a car coming and stop! I'm not talking about a dangerous pull out either.

At the speed that bike was travelling, doubt it would have made any difference

[normalbloke]

number2 said:

Bonefish Blues said:

ro250 said:

Eric Mc said:

I am gobsmacked by the number of people who people who think that not wearing a seat belt is OK. What on earth types of brains do they have?

I think it's a point of rebellion. Simply that because it's the law to wear one, many of lower intelligence just instantly want to not conform and they aren't bright enough to realise that there's a good reason you have to wear one.

They really stick it to the man. And their windscreens.

It is incompressible.

It is sad that someone going about their business, lawfully and sensibly, can be injured or killed by these absolute s. There's not much you can do if someone is coming at you head on round a poorly sighted bend - last week's episode.

The motorcyclist in this episode was an absolute . The focus driver stopped - a natural panic reaction to something coming towards you I would think - I wonder whether if he had continued to take his turn, the outcome would have been different. I'm in no way blaming the focus driver for anything here, just exploring people's reactions to suddenly being exposed to potential danger.

I've seen this reaction many times before - people pull out of a junction, see a car coming and stop! I'm not talking about a dangerous pull out either.

To be fair, the innocent driver on the bend in last weeks episode did do something, which more than likely helped reduce his injuries,by managing to steer off the carriageway.Possibly a big element of luck in that move, that there wasn’t a tree or other hard object in the way.

[SydneyBridge]

The car parked on double yellows to the right of the Focus did not help, but would probably have still happened with the speed of motorcylist

[WPA]

SydneyBridge said:

The car parked on double yellows to the right of the Focus did not help, but would probably have still happened with the speed of motorcylist

From what I understand, that car arrived after it had happened

[SydneyBridge]

WPA said:

From what I understand, that car arrived after it had happened

Ah, ok, thank you

[the tribester]

SydneyBridge said:

WPA said:

From what I understand, that car arrived after it had happened

Ah, ok, thank you

Yes, you see it arrive and park after the collision when they were examining the CCTV.

[Berger 3rd]

An almost identical thing to the focus/motorbike scenario happened to a mate many years ago. The main difference was that the bike crossed a main road at a crossroads at high speed without stopping at his junction, and my mate couldn’t avoid hitting him, sadly the biker died.

He was cleared of all wrong doing through various eye witness reports, wasn’t on his phone etc. but the family of the deceased sadly tried to pursue a civil case against him, which in the end thankfully was thrown out.

It affected him for many years and to an extent still does, he suffered several serious bouts of depression afterwards especially during the civil case.

[Willhire89]

WPA said:

At the speed that bike was travelling, doubt it would have made any difference

I saw the bikers helmet was back with the car which made me wonder about if it was strapped

[oobster]

Wasn't it the case that the damage to the lower drivers front door on the Focus was caused by the biker and not the bike?

[sixor8]

Willhire89 said:

WPA said:

At the speed that bike was travelling, doubt it would have made any difference

I saw the bikers helmet was back with the car which made me wonder about if it was strapped

I thought that, it was lying in the road unless it was moved to film for effect, which I doubt with police there. I had quite an 'off' on a bike breaking a collarbone and fracturing 5 ribs back in 1996. My helmet didn't come off but the side of it was completely ground down. Probably saved my life. The biker was a complete .......

[the tribester]

Have they dealt with an at fault driver yet, who hasn't been smoking cannabis?

[eldar]

Berger 3rd said:

Just seems so odd you’d sit on a seatbelt rather than put one on. I genuinely feel odd without a seatbelt and would struggle to drive a few yards a without the weird feeling becoming too much and having to put it on. It really is one of the most baffling things.

Edited by Berger 3rd on Wednesday 25th October 12:19

Same mentality that persuades them driving pissed and drugged up in an uninsured Car on false plates is a sound plan.

[eldar]

Berger 3rd said:

Just seems so odd you’d sit on a seatbelt rather than put one on. I genuinely feel odd without a seatbelt and would struggle to drive a few yards a without the weird feeling becoming too much and having to put it on. It really is one of the most baffling things.

Edited by Berger 3rd on Wednesday 25th October 12:19

Same mentality that persuades them driving pissed and drugged up in an uninsured Car on false plates is a sound plan.

[Megaflow]

oobster said:

Wasn't it the case that the damage to the lower drivers front door on the Focus was caused by the biker and not the bike?

That was my understanding as well. Door damage was the biker, front corner damage was the bike.

That is generally how it goes with bikers, its not the first impact with the road that gets you, it is normally the impact with something solid that stops you is the one that does the real damage. Which is why most bike racers think the road is more dangerous than the race track, because generally there isn't anything on a race track for the second impact. There are obvious exceptions, by they are quite rare in reality.