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SpudLink said:
Went to see The Marvels last night. I picked 9pm on the Monday after the opening weekend to avoid the crowds. As it turned out, there was one other person in the screening. ONE.
As for the film itself, it’s not good. I could pick it apart very easily. The funny thing is, I really enjoyed myself. It was the superhero equivalent of a cheesy horror film.
There is an utterly bizarre, surreal scene played out to an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical number. All I could do was shake my head and laugh.
It was all very silly, and I’m going to class it as a guilty pleasure.
The highlight of the film however was the mid-credit scene. I audibly gasped when Kelsey Grammer appeared on screen. As of now the Fox produced, X-Men films are officially a parallel universe in the MCU.
Havent seen it and no desire to. Its seems really odd how the MCU have lost their way, I cant think of a film since Endgame that has been standout wow and that I want to see again. I know they couldnt keep flogging the dead horse of Iron Man and the Avengers but nothing has come close. There have been a couple of good films for sure, but not stellarAs for the film itself, it’s not good. I could pick it apart very easily. The funny thing is, I really enjoyed myself. It was the superhero equivalent of a cheesy horror film.
There is an utterly bizarre, surreal scene played out to an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical number. All I could do was shake my head and laugh.
It was all very silly, and I’m going to class it as a guilty pleasure.
The highlight of the film however was the mid-credit scene. I audibly gasped when Kelsey Grammer appeared on screen. As of now the Fox produced, X-Men films are officially a parallel universe in the MCU.
They need to give it all rest for at least a decade in Cinemas and possibly streaming too.
Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
eltawater said:
They need to give it all rest for at least a decade in Cinemas and possibly streaming too.
Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
No. But that’s DC, and I gave up on them after Batman vs Superman. Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
Disney paid billions to milk it for all it’s worth. They need to keep churning out ‘content’ to feed the streaming service, get families to visit theme parks, sell merchandise. Unfortunately quality of the content doesn’t seem to be a priority.
SpudLink said:
eltawater said:
They need to give it all rest for at least a decade in Cinemas and possibly streaming too.
Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
No. But that’s DC, and I gave up on them after Batman vs Superman. Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
Disney paid billions to milk it for all it’s worth. They need to keep churning out ‘content’ to feed the streaming service, get families to visit theme parks, sell merchandise. Unfortunately quality of the content doesn’t seem to be a priority.
SpudLink said:
eltawater said:
They need to give it all rest for at least a decade in Cinemas and possibly streaming too.
Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
No. But that’s DC, and I gave up on them after Batman vs Superman. Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
Disney paid billions to milk it for all it’s worth. They need to keep churning out ‘content’ to feed the streaming service, get families to visit theme parks, sell merchandise. Unfortunately quality of the content doesn’t seem to be a priority.
That illustrates my point really, the viewing public just see it as "another superhero movie" and don't bother.
SpudLink said:
eltawater said:
They need to give it all rest for at least a decade in Cinemas and possibly streaming too.
Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
No. But that’s DC, and I gave up on them after Batman vs Superman. Too many characters, too much saving the world / universe / multiverse and too many deaths rendered utterly meaningless by another prequel / alt version / macguffin.
Did anyone even go to watch Blue Beetle?
Disney paid billions to milk it for all it’s worth. They need to keep churning out ‘content’ to feed the streaming service, get families to visit theme parks, sell merchandise. Unfortunately quality of the content doesn’t seem to be a priority.
JagLover said:
The Marvels has the worst opening weekend in the MCU apparently, even unadjusted for inflation.
They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
Why do I have the feeling that you’re one of that group for whom Avengers Endgame was completely ruined by one five second scene and the line “She’s not alone”?They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
JagLover said:
The Marvels has the worst opening weekend in the MCU apparently, even unadjusted for inflation.
They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
Not sure where it’s been advertised but I didn’t even know this film existed until a friend put up on Facebook that they were at the cinema to see it. I don’t see any more or less media than I did when previous MCU offerings were coming up, but this one’s completely passed me by.They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
Antony Moxey said:
JagLover said:
The Marvels has the worst opening weekend in the MCU apparently, even unadjusted for inflation.
They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
Not sure where it’s been advertised but I didn’t even know this film existed until a friend put up on Facebook that they were at the cinema to see it. I don’t see any more or less media than I did when previous MCU offerings were coming up, but this one’s completely passed me by.They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
eltawater said:
Antony Moxey said:
JagLover said:
The Marvels has the worst opening weekend in the MCU apparently, even unadjusted for inflation.
They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
Not sure where it’s been advertised but I didn’t even know this film existed until a friend put up on Facebook that they were at the cinema to see it. I don’t see any more or less media than I did when previous MCU offerings were coming up, but this one’s completely passed me by.They need to change course and do so urgently otherwise they are going the same way as Star Wars.
The problem for the Marvels seems to be centering the film on characters very few people care about, just at the time when due to decreasing quality and excessive quantity, MCU movies are no longer essential viewing. So the one two punch of people not lining up for the characters, nor lining up for the bigger continuity in spite of the characters.
Spider man showed people will still back theaters for popular characters and anticipated stories.
I have never and will never watch the end of Endgame, it was the most appalling pile of tripe I have seen and totally started the beginning of the end, time travel, really ffs!
it just totally ruined the entire thing for me, all that work, all those films, everything and we are supposed to believe some contraption can make them travel back in time, when they have wizards etc etc, I mean cmon ffs.
The whole thing should have ended with infinity War, Endgame was a very poor way to end it all, and was basically a film that was not needed for most fans.
For me also the Star Wars films, though troubled are not that bad, they at least try, (though the tv stuff is largely woeful) Endgame was just a ridiculous OTT namefest.
it just totally ruined the entire thing for me, all that work, all those films, everything and we are supposed to believe some contraption can make them travel back in time, when they have wizards etc etc, I mean cmon ffs.
The whole thing should have ended with infinity War, Endgame was a very poor way to end it all, and was basically a film that was not needed for most fans.
For me also the Star Wars films, though troubled are not that bad, they at least try, (though the tv stuff is largely woeful) Endgame was just a ridiculous OTT namefest.
eltawater said:
To be fair that was down to the strike which prevented them from promoting the film in person.
It's a readily available excuse, but this was a film that had its release date delayed 5 times and almost a third of its runtime removed following test screenings. It also relied on the audience having seen WandaVision, Ms Marvel and Secret Invasion on Disney+ to have any investment in the characters/story arc, and two of those series bombed spectacularly.The studio knew they had a dud on their hands because their build-up was telling them it would be. The promotion budget was cut back to cut their losses.
gregs656 said:
Disney have admitted they have a quality problem though, so perhaps they will pull it round.
Not sure about the films, but they have about the TV stuff and are changing how they make them. They are redoing lots of the new Daredevil. In other news, Pedro Pascal is to play Reed Richards.
I mostly gave up after Endgame too, having watched them all religiously up to that point. The quality was already going downhill a bit and it’s got a lot worse. The last Thor one was a real dissappintment, GoG 3 was just about OK and I quite enjoyed Dr Strange and Multiverse of Madness, I’ve not watched the Loki series, but was thinking of giving it a go.
I did wonder if we are just seeing the end of super heroes as a Hollywood fad. There have been eras of cowboy films, war films, 80s action that have all petered out in the end.
I did wonder if we are just seeing the end of super heroes as a Hollywood fad. There have been eras of cowboy films, war films, 80s action that have all petered out in the end.
blueST said:
I mostly gave up after Endgame too, having watched them all religiously up to that point. The quality was already going downhill a bit and it’s got a lot worse. The last Thor one was a real dissappintment, GoG 3 was just about OK and I quite enjoyed Dr Strange and Multiverse of Madness, I’ve not watched the Loki series, but was thinking of giving it a go.
I did wonder if we are just seeing the end of super heroes as a Hollywood fad. There have been eras of cowboy films, war films, 80s action that have all petered out in the end.
I said this a few times during the build up to Endgame. It's a golden ere for those of us who grew up reading superhero comics, specifically Marvel. But when Hollywood finds a successful genre, it will always flog it 'till the audience is sick of it. Then move to the next big thing.I did wonder if we are just seeing the end of super heroes as a Hollywood fad. There have been eras of cowboy films, war films, 80s action that have all petered out in the end.
I haven't given up yet. Before Iron Man was released, superhero films had slumped to the low of Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin. That seemed to be the final nail in the coffin for the genre.
The best days could still be ahead.
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