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SWoll said:
cerb4.5lee said:
SWoll said:
I struggle to believe a relatively small battery pack and motor on one axle makes that much difference so perhaps the current X5 in general wouldnlt be for you?
I broke my own personal rule by approaching the X5 45e with very high expectations to be fair, because the reviews seemed really glowing for it. For me it just didn't feel like a 400bhp vehicle, and the added weight over the ICE'd equivalent just ruined the way it drove for me. What I have learnt though is that a hybrid or an electric car just aren't for me yet. Maybe in time I will learn to appreciate them, but all the X5 45e did for me was push me back towards an ICE'd car.
Truth be told I was absolutely gutted, however I'd still love the X5 though...as long as it doesn't have a battery though.
I really don't like the future regarding cars.
Doofus said:
SWoll said:
But 1 star? That suggests a car that is garbage in every way.
No, it suggests a car that meets few of Harry's criteria or expectations. It's subjective.Caddyshack said:
Harry was explaining a concept, he didn’t award it 1 star, he was using the analogy that JC told him to sometimes review the low rated cars so that the really good ones shine, JC said 1 star cars to show what he meant, therefore Harry said “think of this as my 1 star” I.e. he reviewed it negatively to give some scale to what a great car is about.
This is how I understood what Harry meant. Nuance rather than black and white absolute. Interpreting what people say seems to be a diminishing skill.cerb4.5lee said:
For me though it really did. My old X5 4.8iS weighed 2200kg, and the GLE400d that I have now weighs 2300kg. Yet the X5 45e felt properly heavy in comparison. I believe that the 45e weighs 2500kg, and for me it felt a lot more than that when you were driving it.
Truth be told I was absolutely gutted, however I'd still love the X5 though...as long as it doesn't have a battery though.
I really don't like the future regarding cars.
Currently yea I agree. Truth be told I was absolutely gutted, however I'd still love the X5 though...as long as it doesn't have a battery though.
I really don't like the future regarding cars.
Also it’s not straight forward saying oh well who cares I’ll carry on using ICE ….. might not be affordable for many either. Ie regulated off the road or taxed off it.
The WFH is going to decimate the petrol heads / and £2/ltr certainly is and is smart motorways and black boxes in cars etc etc.
Enjoy it while you can.
Or as a rugby coach used to say to us on every game “play it as a final”
JeremyH5 said:
Caddyshack said:
Harry was explaining a concept, he didn’t award it 1 star, he was using the analogy that JC told him to sometimes review the low rated cars so that the really good ones shine, JC said 1 star cars to show what he meant, therefore Harry said “think of this as my 1 star” I.e. he reviewed it negatively to give some scale to what a great car is about.
This is how I understood what Harry meant. Nuance rather than black and white absolute. Interpreting what people say seems to be a diminishing skill.Chunkychucky said:
DonkeyApple said:
This leads to a downside re weight, but ultimately no one relevant on planet Earth cares about the weight of vehicles. That's likely to change over the next twenty years when it dawns more widely that weight equals waste but no one of any importance actually cares at this moment in time.
Given the importance placed on driving down waste and utilising 'renewables', why isn't this being paid attention to now..? I think an M3 weighing >1800kg is retarded, so am unlikely to buy anything produced post-2000s anyway, but I don't see anything to like about modern cars nowadays. With the exception of a select few (Alpine A110, Alfa Giulia, ND MX5 etc.), every car released nowadays is bigger/heavier than its predecessor, without any discernible benefit...
I'll carry on driving my 660kg 4 seater saloon car until the fossils run dry
Enjoyed Harry's review of the bmw i4m. Properly slated. Rightly so too and I'm a bmw owner and fan. I expected much better. Refreshing to see a proper low score given out. Dear old Autocar as usual have given it four stars and I'm sure EVO probably did too. The car mags seem to have forgotten how to properly critique cars these days. I often wonder what LJK setright would have made of 2.2 ton ev saloons. Somehow I don't think he would have approved!!
Chunkychucky said:
DonkeyApple said:
This leads to a downside re weight, but ultimately no one relevant on planet Earth cares about the weight of vehicles. That's likely to change over the next twenty years when it dawns more widely that weight equals waste but no one of any importance actually cares at this moment in time.
I'll carry on driving my 660kg 4 seater saloon car until the fossils run dry Harry, a farming question I meant to ask a couple of weeks ago...
Local oilseed rape fields had a really weird thing where a 'perimeter' strip flowered about a week or perhaps even ten days before the rest. The really weird thing was it wasn't on the outer margins, but a decent distance in from the edge of the planting:
Any ideas why this would happen?
Also noticed today (far more obvious, but visible in this pic too) that there are big 'bites' out of the edge of the field with absolutely nothing growing on it. Looks just like it did after being 'scratched' prior to planting.
In some spots, these patches are really very large - but I can't see any real reason why. Some spots are perhaps lower lying and potentially had periods of being waterlogged, but others aren't like that at all. Any ideas?
Between you and JC, I've really started being much more curious about what's going on in the local fields...
Local oilseed rape fields had a really weird thing where a 'perimeter' strip flowered about a week or perhaps even ten days before the rest. The really weird thing was it wasn't on the outer margins, but a decent distance in from the edge of the planting:
Any ideas why this would happen?
Also noticed today (far more obvious, but visible in this pic too) that there are big 'bites' out of the edge of the field with absolutely nothing growing on it. Looks just like it did after being 'scratched' prior to planting.
In some spots, these patches are really very large - but I can't see any real reason why. Some spots are perhaps lower lying and potentially had periods of being waterlogged, but others aren't like that at all. Any ideas?
Between you and JC, I've really started being much more curious about what's going on in the local fields...
Pistom said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I really don't like the future regarding cars.
Sadly, they are turning into (many have already turned into) domestic appliances. Having said that, I love my mundane daily driver for the anonymity it gives.
F20CN16 said:
I feel slightly more optimistic than that. The vast majority of everyday cars people buy for transport have been a bit dull for decades. Lots of boring engines and lack of power (not all of them you understand). Electric motors will liven them up! But agree the cars for driving enthusiasts are going to be a challenge.
Once they become truly mainstream, the vast majority will be at the Renault Zoe/Nissan Leaf end of things rather than Taycans and Teslas. They drive boring dross now, and most will still be driving boring dross, except it will be powered by a washing machine motor. People aren't suddenly going to be driving around in 500hp rocketships. The current high end stuff is just the usual drip feed starting at the top to get people interested in and accepting of the technology, before the rollout of increasingly dull s
te for the masses.greenarrow said:
Enjoyed Harry's review of the bmw i4m. Properly slated. Rightly so too and I'm a bmw owner and fan. I expected much better. Refreshing to see a proper low score given out. Dear old Autocar as usual have given it four stars and I'm sure EVO probably did too. The car mags seem to have forgotten how to properly critique cars these days. I often wonder what LJK setright would have made of 2.2 ton ev saloons. Somehow I don't think he would have approved!!
Harry was effusive enough about the Taycan, which is just as heavy. As above I do wonder if the the issue here was comparing it to the M3/M4 due to the sticker price on the press car that BMW provided. At it's list price of £63k it's an EV M440i rival and should really be judged as such. An M4 xDrive with every option ticked as per the reviewed i4 would cost you £100k+.
Ref the weight, only Tesla manage to keep it close to ICE and we all know what people think about the quality of their build and materials in comparison to the German marques.
thegreenhell said:
F20CN16 said:
I feel slightly more optimistic than that. The vast majority of everyday cars people buy for transport have been a bit dull for decades. Lots of boring engines and lack of power (not all of them you understand). Electric motors will liven them up! But agree the cars for driving enthusiasts are going to be a challenge.
Once they become truly mainstream, the vast majority will be at the Renault Zoe/Nissan Leaf end of things rather than Taycans and Teslas. They drive boring dross now, and most will still be driving boring dross, except it will be powered by a washing machine motor. People aren't suddenly going to be driving around in 500hp rocketships. The current high end stuff is just the usual drip feed starting at the top to get people interested in and accepting of the technology, before the rollout of increasingly dull ste for the masses.
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