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LeoSayer

7,317 posts

245 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Loving the Spain road trip.

13mpg sounds like something is wrong. I know my 993 is a very different and newer car but I get more than twice that on a road trip

Lexington59

974 posts

66 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Harry needs a commission from the Spanish tourist board, those Bilbao ferries will soon be full of PHers seeking those fantastic empty roads… laugh

SydneyBridge

8,685 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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The mpg shows that fun was had..

Doofus

26,042 posts

174 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Lexington59 said:
Harry needs a commission from the Spanish tourist board, those Bilbao ferries will soon be full of PHers seeking those fantastic empty roads… laugh
It's a bloody horrible crossing.

limpsfield

5,896 posts

254 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Enjoyed that - great roads and a shocking mpg!

nebpor

3,753 posts

236 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Doofus said:
It's a bloody horrible crossing.
The boat or the seas?

Ed Moses

612 posts

121 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Enjoyed that, more road trips for subscribers please - may help pay the MPG/Hotel costs!

Doofus

26,042 posts

174 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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nebpor said:
Doofus said:
It's a bloody horrible crossing.
The boat or the seas?
The sea and the weather.

mdk1

458 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Lexington59 said:
Harry needs a commission from the Spanish tourist board, those Bilbao ferries will soon be full of PHers seeking those fantastic empty roads… laugh
Priced a return trip on the ferry for a week in October and it was just over £1000. For that price I’d be tempted to take the 30 hours crossing time to drive down and stay overnight somewhere.
Saying that was a great vid and the “desert” has been added to a list places to visit.

SWoll

18,576 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Can't say I'm hugely surprised by the mpg personally. Naff aero, a 30+ year old heavily turbocharged engine and lots of uphill travel in a loaded down car.

fantastic bit of kit though, and thoroughly enjoyed the video. thumbup

RichB

51,749 posts

285 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Doofus said:
Lexington59 said:
Harry needs a commission from the Spanish tourist board, those Bilbao ferries will soon be full of PHers seeking those fantastic empty roads… laugh
It's a bloody horrible crossing.
Agreed, the Bay of Biscay is notoriously rough.

cherryowen

11,743 posts

205 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Just poured a large Jamesons in readiness for one of the best things on YT; a European road trip courtesy of Harry's Garage.

Ladders

248 posts

225 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Really enjoy Harry’s road trips smile

But a grand and potentially 2 days of rough seas puts me off taking the ferry!

I’d like to ask Harry if he takes a tool kit if it’s an older car? (My Elise is now 20+ years so have to go prepared on road trips now) And is there any of your cars Mrs M dislikes road tripping in? (My wife is happy as long as she can have the whole Elise boot for her stuff)

ettore

4,163 posts

253 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Doofus said:
It's a bloody horrible crossing.
It’s not, it’s great. Regular Pompey - Santander/Bilbao traveller here, fantastic for Spain/Portugal, let alone the wonders of Northern Spain:

Boat very civilised and pleasant!

milu

2,356 posts

267 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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It’s been said before but Mrs M is a trooper!
A good road trip is fun. But not always for the passenger,especially if they keep getting pushed out to film lol

Car looked great. Proper 911 look to my old eyes.

wpa1975

8,960 posts

115 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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Really enjoyed the road trip video.

Ouch to 13mpg however

NDA

21,678 posts

226 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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Great video - I am partial to an annual road trip too, so always enjoy seeing one done properly.

Good that the 911 was left hand drive, made those overtakes a bit easier.

thegreenhell

15,577 posts

220 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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SWoll said:
Can't say I'm hugely surprised by the mpg personally. Naff aero, a 30+ year old heavily turbocharged engine and lots of uphill travel in a loaded down car.

fantastic bit of kit though, and thoroughly enjoyed the video. thumbup
As Harry said in the video, when running on higher boost these have to run extra rich to help with cooling. They're just dumping extra fuel into the cylinders to stop the pistons from melting. He said he was getting ~13mpg even on a gentle motorway run, and it didn't seem to drop much from that even when he went up into the mountains.

JonnyVTEC

3,009 posts

176 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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RichB said:
You see this what makes me laugh about EVs. This morning I drove to Southend to collect some batteries for my Lagonda, a round trip of 190 miles. Having set off early, I was on my way back by 10:30 and only stopped for 5 mins to get a coffee and flap jack in a BP garage. Home by 11:30, job done. So in a Tessa I'd be on the M3 looking at the juice gauge thinking 'st I wish I'd charged up somewhere' but that would have meant nursing a coffee somewhere for half an hour and not nipping into a basic garage on the A127.
I know, how will everyone manage?

Well most people don’t have Lagondas so there’s a good leveller

Caddyshack

10,996 posts

207 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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LeoSayer said:
Loving the Spain road trip.

13mpg sounds like something is wrong. I know my 993 is a very different and newer car but I get more than twice that on a road trip
My 993 was good on fuel. My Carrera 3.2 on track would get in to low teens but on a run 25 mpg would not be out of the question.

I think the mapping on an old and modified 930 (albeit factory mod) would be to wind up the boost and cover it in fuelling. I suspect a modern borg warner twin scroll turbo on decent manifold and a new ECU would change the MPG a lot, I doubt Harry wants to change the originality of this car but I would just keep the original bits in a box.

I think an F40 would also benefit from the same as above, not to increase power but to keep the power the same and improve the drivability, you could still have a "b" map that apes the lag and boost of the original.