New series of Grand Designs

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onyx39

11,140 posts

152 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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coogy said:


Looks like business is booming!

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petemurphy

10,140 posts

185 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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BoRED S2upid said:
Your kidding right? its in london. Everyone knows that most people living in london are mad and have more money than sense. £5mill any day of the week.
the only private residence in london that has that view to themselves - thats quite a trophy tbh u only need 1 to fall in love with it

esvcg

851 posts

187 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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BullyB said:
NotNormal said:
Unlike a lot of TV these days that really was a great hour of TV viewing pleasure, in fact I reckon they could have made a longer episode for this one.

Massive hats off to the chap for everything from commitment, vision and big cahooners through to the final execution. End result was a real credit to all involved and to do it in such a timeframe is mind boggling.

What a true GRAND DESIGN for the 100th episode (topped by not having to endure any Eco drivel being thrown in either)

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totally agree, fantastic programme.
defo one of best programs on tv still, really dosen't seem to age very much. I thought it was the 200th program?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

193 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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The tower was amazing, and I have the utmost respect for the guys to have the vision and conkers to do it.

However, it's not what I would have done. From the top down I would have looked to do something like:

Lounge
Master Bedroom
Dining room
Kitchen
Bedroom
Bedroom
Utility Area

The problem is, they almost had to add the other stuff on to absorb the cost of the tower maintenance. I don't know how better to explain it, but using the following guess-timates:

£350k - Buying the tower.
£350k - Keeping the tower in one piece.
£300k - Fitting it out how I would like it.


£1m - Which you might be able to sell for £1.25m???

Spend another £1m adding to it and finishing it to tip-top spec, and you will probably have something that is now worth £3m.

Doing that, the restoration costs are now better absorbed by the added value. Hopefully I have explained myself.

(Almost like they're spending their way out of trouble. Which is kinda counter-intuitive.)

raptor600

1,356 posts

148 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Imagine if you were in the birds nest and needed a drink. What a pain in the arse!

civicduty

1,857 posts

205 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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z4chris99 said:
UK Buyers dont pay over the sqft price for that area, becuase they arnt stupid.
arabs and russians are stupid, but they dont buy in elephant and castle.

The ceiling for the area is Strata, at about 1300 sqft achieved, which is new build not conversion, has residents amienty all that jazz.
Didn't they say they moved from the Strata?

Raify

6,552 posts

250 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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civicduty said:
z4chris99 said:
UK Buyers dont pay over the sqft price for that area, becuase they arnt stupid.
arabs and russians are stupid, but they dont buy in elephant and castle.

The ceiling for the area is Strata, at about 1300 sqft achieved, which is new build not conversion, has residents amienty all that jazz.
Didn't they say they moved from the Strata?
yes Said that they spotted the water tower from the Strata.

Laurel Green

30,797 posts

234 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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raptor600 said:
Imagine if you were in the birds nest and needed a drink. What a pain in the arse!
I didn't see one but, a dumb-waiter would be an essential requirement or, at the very least, reminders on every facing step of the stairs.

civicduty said:
Didn't they say they moved from the Strata?
Yup!

matchmaker

8,516 posts

202 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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raptor600 said:
Imagine if you were in the birds nest and needed a drink. What a pain in the arse!
Sorry but laughlaughlaugh

Burnham

3,668 posts

261 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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BullyB said:
NotNormal said:
Unlike a lot of TV these days that really was a great hour of TV viewing pleasure, in fact I reckon they could have made a longer episode for this one.

Massive hats off to the chap for everything from commitment, vision and big cahooners through to the final execution. End result was a real credit to all involved and to do it in such a timeframe is mind boggling.

What a true GRAND DESIGN for the 100th episode (topped by not having to endure any Eco drivel being thrown in either)

clap
totally agree, fantastic programme.
They never seem to spend long enough with the big reveal....I want to see what its like living in it!

This was by far the best grand designs yet. Probabbly not the one I'd choose to live in given the choice, but what a property. Those views alone must have made the whole thing worthwhile.

Anybody in the business got any idea what the market value would be on the end result?

louiebaby

10,651 posts

193 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Burnham said:
Anybody in the business got any idea what the market value would be on the end result?
I suspect the short answer is "POA."

Previous replies in this thread seem to have ranged between £3.5m and £5m.

All of which fall into my "Not a chance" category.

dirty boy

14,721 posts

211 months

z4chris99

11,359 posts

181 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Burnham said:
Anybody in the business got any idea what the market value would be on the end result?
£1000 per sq ft

FourWheelDrift

88,726 posts

286 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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A previous Grand Design water tower of just over 6,000sq ft is for sale for £289,000

http://search.knightfrank.com/str100301

Remember the episode but can't remember the details, advert reads as if it hasn't been done even after the episode. Was something done and removed or never started?


And if you want to have a go yourself - http://www.housecritic.co.uk/2011/07/24/water-towe...

Jobbo

12,982 posts

266 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
A previous Grand Design water tower of just over 6,000sq ft is for sale for £289,000

http://search.knightfrank.com/str100301

Remember the episode but can't remember the details, advert reads as if it hasn't been done even after the episode. Was something done and removed or never started?
That wasn't on Grand Designs - I looked round it when it was for sale (without planning permission) from Severn Trent about 4 years ago. The buyer has obtained planning consent but not converted it, and it's never been on telly.

FourWheelDrift

88,726 posts

286 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Was it on another show then because I remember it from something, Restoration Man or something else?

Might have been posted on here in the past maybe, and that's where I remember it from I suppose.

Jobbo

12,982 posts

266 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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I'm not aware that it was on any other show - as I said, it hasn't been converted so it wouldn't have been very interesting viewing.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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louiebaby said:
The tower was amazing, and I have the utmost respect for the guys to have the vision and conkers to do it.

However, it's not what I would have done. From the top down I would have looked to do something like:

Lounge
Master Bedroom
Dining room
Kitchen
Bedroom
Bedroom
Utility Area

The problem is, they almost had to add the other stuff on to absorb the cost of the tower maintenance. I don't know how better to explain it, but using the following guess-timates:

£350k - Buying the tower.
£350k - Keeping the tower in one piece.
£300k - Fitting it out how I would like it.


£1m - Which you might be able to sell for £1.25m???

Spend another £1m adding to it and finishing it to tip-top spec, and you will probably have something that is now worth £3m.

Doing that, the restoration costs are now better absorbed by the added value. Hopefully I have explained myself.

(Almost like they're spending their way out of trouble. Which is kinda counter-intuitive.)
It sounds so easy when you put it like that but in pactice it never is.

You've got to get over the technical challenge of servicing each floor plate and then find a way to make circulation space without taking out too much of the floor plate. Old buildings always put up a good fight when you drag them into the present from 200 years back, changing a building use whilst dragging it into current day is an even bigger challenge.

Also, with the way you've aranged the floor you'll be constantly changing levels - think about the spaces you use the most and stick it at the top. Then work down from these whilst keeping a logical sequence link between each floor/space.

Their kitchen & living space on the 1st & 2nd floor of the cube makes no sense.

ETA - you've missed out consultant fees and facade restoration works eat money like there's no tomorrow.

Edited by sleep envy on Friday 19th October 17:02

louiebaby

10,651 posts

193 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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sleep envy said:
It sounds so easy when you put it like that but in pactice it never is.
I'm under no illusions about the challenges, and not planning on taking it on, but really, how hard could it be? smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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louiebaby said:
I'm under no illusions about the challenges, and not planning on taking it on, but really, how hard could it be? smile
It's a piece of piss. That's why I do it day in, day out and never get stressed or fked off with it at all wink