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sisu

2,606 posts

174 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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FiF said:
LOL'ing at Smith and Sniff with Mystic Metcalfe the gypsy carteller.
I would pay good money to have a Top Trumps Tarot card reading from Harry.


RicksAlfas

13,432 posts

245 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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Skeptisk said:
The car was made in 1973. Perhaps people should check out standard spec of other cars in 1973. Not a lot and hardly comparable with a modern car.
I'll have you know my 1968 Alfa has three ashtrays!


ettore

4,169 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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RicksAlfas said:
Skeptisk said:
The car was made in 1973. Perhaps people should check out standard spec of other cars in 1973. Not a lot and hardly comparable with a modern car.
I'll have you know my 1968 Alfa has three ashtrays!
I have to say that the commentary on this thread about the last video really does show how either a) this site or b) the ‘scene’ has changed.

The video is about a lightweight 2.7RS! How far have we fallen to be criticising it for lack of ‘amenities’…

yanyan

615 posts

213 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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ettore said:
RicksAlfas said:
Skeptisk said:
The car was made in 1973. Perhaps people should check out standard spec of other cars in 1973. Not a lot and hardly comparable with a modern car.
I'll have you know my 1968 Alfa has three ashtrays!
I have to say that the commentary on this thread about the last video really does show how either a) this site or b) the ‘scene’ has changed.

The video is about a lightweight 2.7RS! How far have we fallen to be criticising it for lack of ‘amenities’…
I've been flummoxed reading some of these comments. I knew of the "lightweight" RS, and was very interested to hear how the weight savings were made. I'd never think of then slagging the car off because it doesn't have a "proper" interior door handle.

HughG

3,553 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Agreed, I get that 911s generally are marmite cars, and always considered myself a TVR guy until I actually wanted a vaguely practical sports car and drove a 911. I knew of the 2.7 RS and their values but very little else, and found the video interesting and love seeing cars like this being driven properly.

Interesting history, engaging to drive, plenty quick enough to enjoy - what’s not to like.

NDA

21,711 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Shame the F40 doesn't have a cup holder. Just sayin'

Overhaul

248 posts

171 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Looks like I'd better put the radio back in my car before I'm lynched !

MarkJS

1,561 posts

148 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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ettore said:
RicksAlfas said:
Skeptisk said:
The car was made in 1973. Perhaps people should check out standard spec of other cars in 1973. Not a lot and hardly comparable with a modern car.
I'll have you know my 1968 Alfa has three ashtrays!
I have to say that the commentary on this thread about the last video really does show how either a) this site or b) the ‘scene’ has changed.

The video is about a lightweight 2.7RS! How far have we fallen to be criticising it for lack of ‘amenities’…
I don't think you should let a couple of comments from 2 people influence your overall opinion of this site or 'scene'.

I hugely enjoy every single one of Harry's videos (cars & the farm), but I'm not into motorbikes and have utterly zero interest in the Fulvia Zagato (apart from the skill in the restoration of course) for example, but I still watch - not everyone can be please all of the time. Unfortunately there are those who seem to enjoy being displeased and commenting as such wink

sisu

2,606 posts

174 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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I find it odd that people are focusing on the bad comments, I had a look and its endless scrolling of people loving it.

Nice to see the review of a lightweight 2.7RS as this is a very nerdy Porsche theme. How they got there is just as interesting, others have taken hindsight to do it again and have missed the boat.
It is a wonderful time capsule of a car.

Guffy

2,311 posts

266 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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I enjoyed the Porsche video primarily because i'm a Harry fan, the RS left me a bit cold for some reason. A standard Carrera from that era would be a more complete package IMO.

Genuine Barn Find

5,786 posts

216 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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sisu said:
I find it odd that people are focusing on the bad comments, I had a look and its endless scrolling of people loving it.

Nice to see the review of a lightweight 2.7RS as this is a very nerdy Porsche theme. How they got there is just as interesting, others have taken hindsight to do it again and have missed the boat.
It is a wonderful time capsule of a car.
Often touted as Porsches’ finest ever
moment.

DonkeyApple

55,854 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Genuine Barn Find said:
Often touted as Porsches’ finest ever
moment.
Going from bust to manipulating the derivatives market to take control of one of the largest car companies on the planet with no one going to prison is surely Porsche's finest moment? wink

I do like these old 911s. Maybe they didn't fit armrests and ashtrays because you couldn't risk ever taking a hand off the wheel? biggrin

ChocolateFrog

25,817 posts

174 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Guffy said:
I enjoyed the Porsche video primarily because i'm a Harry fan, the RS left me a bit cold for some reason. A standard Carrera from that era would be a more complete package IMO.
Same.

I enjoyed some of the nerdiness, I'd never have known that the earlier cars were quite different from the later ones for example.

I also have no desire to own one, a sorted 993 for a fraction of the price would be a better car for me in every single way, but nice to see an in depth video on one.

Skeptisk

7,605 posts

110 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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ChocolateFrog said:
Guffy said:
I enjoyed the Porsche video primarily because i'm a Harry fan, the RS left me a bit cold for some reason. A standard Carrera from that era would be a more complete package IMO.
Same.

I enjoyed some of the nerdiness, I'd never have known that the earlier cars were quite different from the later ones for example.

I also have no desire to own one, a sorted 993 for a fraction of the price would be a better car for me in every single way, but nice to see an in depth video on one.
I’ve owned eleven 911s including three 993s and two early 911s and driven dozens of others up to a 991.2 GT3 touring my friend owned.

The 993 is a great car and for use all year round makes a lot of sense. However for Road driving enjoyment (not ultimate speed) nothing so far has bested a 2.7 RS. Just my experience.

I suspect a lot of negative or indifferent comments are from people who have never driven such cars in anger.

sisu

2,606 posts

174 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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Skeptisk said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Guffy said:
I enjoyed the Porsche video primarily because i'm a Harry fan, the RS left me a bit cold for some reason. A standard Carrera from that era would be a more complete package IMO.
Same.

I enjoyed some of the nerdiness, I'd never have known that the earlier cars were quite different from the later ones for example.

I also have no desire to own one, a sorted 993 for a fraction of the price would be a better car for me in every single way, but nice to see an in depth video on one.
I’ve owned eleven 911s including three 993s and two early 911s and driven dozens of others up to a 991.2 GT3 touring my friend owned.

The 993 is a great car and for use all year round makes a lot of sense. However for Road driving enjoyment (not ultimate speed) nothing so far has bested a 2.7 RS. Just my experience.

I suspect a lot of negative or indifferent comments are from people who have never driven such cars in anger.
See this is where I hate the religious aspect of early 911s. It is like Tesla owners. Any apathy is met with suspicion of you not having the purest version of it. I have driven 3 different 911 STs and a 906, I have a pretty good palete of what they are trying to paint. But this won't cut it because any questioning of it is seen as you not knowing enough or that you haven't pushed the limits of the car as I have bro.
I appreciate the 2.7RS and this example really illustrated the process they went thru. But I also understand it is a compromised car and that is ok too.

Mr Vic Tims

3 posts

22 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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I came here after seeing Harry’s videos on the XJC, wow what a build, loved every minute of watching that!

14

2,124 posts

162 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Since I was at the airshow at RAF Fairford yesterday, I decided to try the road Harry uses for his test drives, since it’s not to far away. I found it to be a good road and one where progress can be made. In Sussex where I live it’s not possible due to the amount of traffic. I also went past Diddly Farm Shop inadvertently, as my sat nav kept trying to send me down single track roads to get back home.

Simes205

4,554 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Mr Vic Tims said:
I came here after seeing Harry’s videos on the XJC, wow what a build, loved every minute of watching that!
I’d venture backwards and start from the beginning ‘EVO diaries’

LM240

4,699 posts

219 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Greg_B said:
thegreenhell said:
What basic amenities was it missing? As a mode of transport it has everything you need and nothing more.
Well, so would a Victorian dog-cart hitched to a horse, but...

Let's see: No glovebox, no ashtray (not that it matters much now but it might have in '73), no armrests, no rear seat, no interior door handles, no clock, no sound deadening, no bumpers, and probably not much in the way of corrosion resistance. It did appear to have a Porsche heater, for what that is worth. The racket it made drowned out most of Harry's driving commentary.

It is academic at this point since the value of these to those with the Porsche bug means few of us will have the ability to purchase one or even care. But that also limits my interest level to a great degree in videos like this.
Then you buy the version which was designed for day to day comforts. This was made for very specific reasons. In general, those that bought it would not have cared about these ‘omissions’.

Like many modern equivalents that have a more driver focused ethos, these sort of things get binned in development.

Personally I learnt some new stuff and I’m interested in seeing what these cars are like to drive. Just because I can’t have one isn’t a turn off.

614-HSO

1,344 posts

49 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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I like that Harry still uses paper maps.