Married at first sight. C4

[number2]

Driver101 said:

The same thing has now happened in the last few series of the UK and the Australian MAFS with a new couple getting together. They've all repeated the same quote about they've come into the experiment to find love, have now found love with another partner, and want to stay part of the process.

The old UK MAFS the couples really got married. Now it's just a pretend wedding. If they are going to allow couples to partner swap and stay all the time it's only going to compromise the experiment moving forward.

I'm not sure they got legally married, but either way you're right.

It's similar to Big Brother, started out as an interesting social experiment but is now just standard reality TV. People realise that they don't have to have any discernible skills to make a lot of money just from being on TV.

It's just different now.

[Driver101]

number2 said:

Driver101 said:

The same thing has now happened in the last few series of the UK and the Australian MAFS with a new couple getting together. They've all repeated the same quote about they've come into the experiment to find love, have now found love with another partner, and want to stay part of the process.

The old UK MAFS the couples really got married. Now it's just a pretend wedding. If they are going to allow couples to partner swap and stay all the time it's only going to compromise the experiment moving forward.

I'm not sure they got legally married, but either way you're right.

It's similar to Big Brother, started out as an interesting social experiment but is now just standard reality TV. People realise that they don't have to have any discernible skills to make a lot of money just from being on TV.

It's just different now.

The early UK series they really did get married. It was later the UK adopted the Australian format of fake weddings and all the dinner party drama stuff.

[number2]

Driver101 said:

The early UK series they really did get married. It was later the UK adopted the Australian format of fake weddings and all the dinner party drama stuff.

Ah fair play, it feels like a very long time ago now!

[Sway]

Driver101 said:

number2 said:

Driver101 said:

The same thing has now happened in the last few series of the UK and the Australian MAFS with a new couple getting together. They've all repeated the same quote about they've come into the experiment to find love, have now found love with another partner, and want to stay part of the process.

The old UK MAFS the couples really got married. Now it's just a pretend wedding. If they are going to allow couples to partner swap and stay all the time it's only going to compromise the experiment moving forward.

I'm not sure they got legally married, but either way you're right.

It's similar to Big Brother, started out as an interesting social experiment but is now just standard reality TV. People realise that they don't have to have any discernible skills to make a lot of money just from being on TV.

It's just different now.

The early UK series they really did get married. It was later the UK adopted the Australian format of fake weddings and all the dinner party drama stuff.

The US one is still like the UK one was originally.

Legal marriage, and the couples 'live their lives' without really meeting up with the other couples - certainly not the 'college dorm' type style with combatative dinners and sofa chats like the Aussie/Kiwi/current Brit series.

[mgtony]

PArbor1 said:

Anyone else think that Chinitas bloke looks like a young Peter Sutcliff?

That sounds like one of Johnathans dinner party conversation starters!

[Mikebentley]

mgtony said:

PArbor1 said:

Anyone else think that Chinitas bloke looks like a young Peter Sutcliff?

That sounds like one of Johnathans dinner party conversation starters!

[Kev_Mk3]

Pound Land Naomi Campbell and Viking Shrek have made a utter mockery of what the programs about so of course they can stay to carry on for the views.

[Jobbo]

I’ve been thinking they need to rename it ‘Wife-Swap at First Sight’ since a few seasons ago on the Australian version.

There was a couple in Australia who got together and asked to stay on, to be told no. That should have been the response here, for consistency and to set an example for the future. It has the potential to turn into a Love Island-style swingers show now the precedent has been set. But I bet that’ll just increase the ratings

[number2]

Kev_Mk3 said:

Pound Land Naomi Campbell and Viking Shrek have made a utter mockery of what the programs about so of course they can stay to carry on for the views.

Great nicknames .

I'm just catching up.

They're a couple of ***** aren't they. Let's be generous and call them narcissists.

I'm surprised shrek isn't annoyed to heck by her vocal fry.

Vocal fry - learnt that on this site . It's what bargain Beyonce does with her voice .

Kwame not wanting to show his woman where he lives... he really is so uninterested in her... and he's either got a stty place, or...?

[Driver101]

number2 said:

Kwame not wanting to show his woman where he lives... he really is so uninterested in her... and he's either got a stty place, or...?

I was surprised he allowed his mates to meet Kasia. Her comment at the dinner table was cringe. Everyone was thinking WTF.

As Kasia said why apply for the show and then be too embarrassed to follow the process. Kwame claims to be a private person? If you are a private person why are you on a TV programme for all to watch?

[RacerMike]

Wonder how Ch4 are going to deal with this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/19995213/married-at-fi...

Have to say that I didn’t like what I saw in the way he reacted to April’s ‘negatives’ thing last week. There’s definitely hints at him being a controlling person.

Overall I can’t say this series has selected the best examples of men in the county. Almost all of them seem to have serious issues with women in one way or another and take this out as coercive behaviour on their partners.

[Driver101]

RacerMike said:

Wonder how Ch4 are going to deal with this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/19995213/married-at-fi...

Have to say that I didn’t like what I saw in the way he reacted to April’s ‘negatives’ thing last week. There’s definitely hints at him being a controlling person.

Overall I can’t say this series has selected the best examples of men in the county. Almost all of them seem to have serious issues with women in one way or another and take this out as coercive behaviour on their partners.

The programme was filmed a while ago and I assume he never done anything too bad on the show. There is no point in cancelling the show now. Accusations have been made and at this point he hasn't been charged. It's too early to start taking action before facts have been established.

The programme is created and edited to make a story. I'm sure a lot of the contestants are on there to raise their own profiles. They aren't there to find love and are just playing games.

I don't think many of the contestants have shown themselves as good people this year. There has been uncomfortable and unacceptable behaviour throughout. If it was just quiet happy couples nobody would be watching.

While we all criticise the contestants for their behaviour, I don't think we can go too far considering all circumstances.

Edited by Driver101 on Monday 3rd October 22:58

[RacerMike]

Driver101 said:

RacerMike said:

Wonder how Ch4 are going to deal with this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/19995213/married-at-fi...

Have to say that I didn’t like what I saw in the way he reacted to April’s ‘negatives’ thing last week. There’s definitely hints at him being a controlling person.

Overall I can’t say this series has selected the best examples of men in the county. Almost all of them seem to have serious issues with women in one way or another and take this out as coercive behaviour on their partners.

The programme was filmed a while ago and I assume he never done anything too bad on the show. There is no point in cancelling the show now. Accusations have been made and at this point he hasn't been charged. It's too early to start taking action before facts have been established.

The programme is created and edited to make a story. I'm sure a lot of the contestants are on there to raise their own profiles. They aren't there to find love and are just playing games.

I don't think many of the contestants have shown themselves as good people this year. There has been uncomfortable and unacceptable behaviour throughout. If it was just quiet happy couples nobody would be watching.

While we all criticise the contestants for their behaviour, I don't think we can go too far considering all circumstances.

Edited by Driver101 on Monday 3rd October 22:58

The allegations don’t have much to do with the show though. April, I believe, is one of the people who’ve claimed he was controlling, but it’s previous ex’s who initiated it.

Not sure anyone is suggesting they cancel the show, but perhaps at least something to highlight that it’s not normal or acceptable behaviour wouldn’t be the worst thing to do.

The fact he’s been arrested I believe generally means there’s more to it than just accusations. Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

[Driver101]

RacerMike said:

The allegations don’t have much to do with the show though. April, I believe, is one of the people who’ve claimed he was controlling, but it’s previous ex’s who initiated it.

Not sure anyone is suggesting they cancel the show, but perhaps at least something to highlight that it’s not normal or acceptable behaviour wouldn’t be the worst thing to do.

The fact he’s been arrested I believe generally means there’s more to it than just accusations. Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

He is insecure and that was there to see. He blamed his insecurity on the behaviour of his ex towards him.

Being arrested does not mean more than accusations. The accusations haven't been published from what I've seen and the police haven't heard enough to charge him.

Convicting him on tabloid press stories, an arrest, and MAFS is too premature.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th October 11:48

[Muzzer79]

RacerMike said:

Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

That's a genuinely frightening viewpoint to have.

You could be arrested for all manner of crimes on someone's account alone.

Ask Cliff Richard, Paul Gambaccini & Jimmy Tarbuck (to name but three) if they agree with you.

MAFS George may or may not be guilty. If he is, he deserves everything he gets. But being arrested is certainly not "clear cut" or "proven" of anything.

[R56Cooper]

Driver101 said:

RacerMike said:

Wonder how Ch4 are going to deal with this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/19995213/married-at-fi...

Have to say that I didn’t like what I saw in the way he reacted to April’s ‘negatives’ thing last week. There’s definitely hints at him being a controlling person.

Overall I can’t say this series has selected the best examples of men in the county. Almost all of them seem to have serious issues with women in one way or another and take this out as coercive behaviour on their partners.

The programme was filmed a while ago and I assume he never done anything too bad on the show. There is no point in cancelling the show now. Accusations have been made and at this point he hasn't been charged. It's too early to start taking action before facts have been established.

The programme is created and edited to make a story. I'm sure a lot of the contestants are on there to raise their own profiles. They aren't there to find love and are just playing games.

I don't think many of the contestants have shown themselves as good people this year. There has been uncomfortable and unacceptable behaviour throughout. If it was just quiet happy couples nobody would be watching.

While we all criticise the contestants for their behaviour, I don't think we can go too far considering all circumstances.

Edited by Driver101 on Monday 3rd October 22:58

Yep, bang on the money IMO.

The psychologists behind this show (and likewise love island etc) obviously know their stuff and have created a blend of personalities that will create drama. Likewise, the tasks are all aimed at winding them up. We wouldn't watch it if all the couples just got on and had a lovely time.

[number2]

Driver101 said:

RacerMike said:

The allegations don’t have much to do with the show though. April, I believe, is one of the people who’ve claimed he was controlling, but it’s previous ex’s who initiated it.

Not sure anyone is suggesting they cancel the show, but perhaps at least something to highlight that it’s not normal or acceptable behaviour wouldn’t be the worst thing to do.

The fact he’s been arrested I believe generally means there’s more to it than just accusations. Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

He is insecure and that was there to see. He blamed his insecurity on the behaviour of his ex towards him.

Being arrested does not mean more than accusations. The accusations haven't been published from what I've seen and the police haven't heard enough to charge him.

Convicting him on tabloid press stories, an arrest, and MAFS is too premature.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th October 11:48

There's a difference between being arrested and being charged. The latter requiring enough evidence for a conviction in the eyes of the CPS. I think. But let's not derail further!

I believe there have been more than hints at his controlling behaviour. He's been using his moods to try to control what April says and does, as well as gas-lighting her, making her feel responsible for problems of his making.

I don't know - as none of us do - what he's done/what he's like outside of the programme though. Equally, I don't know how valid any of the accusations levied at him are.

[RacerMike]

Driver101 said:

RacerMike said:

The allegations don’t have much to do with the show though. April, I believe, is one of the people who’ve claimed he was controlling, but it’s previous ex’s who initiated it.

Not sure anyone is suggesting they cancel the show, but perhaps at least something to highlight that it’s not normal or acceptable behaviour wouldn’t be the worst thing to do.

The fact he’s been arrested I believe generally means there’s more to it than just accusations. Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

He is insecure and that was there to see. He blamed his insecurity on the behaviour of his ex towards him.

Being arrested does not mean more than accusations. The accusations haven't been published from what I've seen and the police haven't heard enough to charge him.

Convicting him on tabloid press stories, an arrest, and MAFS is too premature.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th October 11:48

Don't think anyone's convicting him but he clearly showed controlling behaviour last week. Whilst his 'insecurity' initially seemed genuine, it's becoming more evident that it might by more jealousy than insecurity. The way he behaved after she kissed that girl on the honeymoon was a major overreaction. I get the impression he would ideally like his partner to live a life at home, away from anyone else where he can control who they see and what they do, and he achieves this through the guise of insecurity and guilt. Exactly how he's behaved with April.

[number2]

RacerMike said:

Driver101 said:

RacerMike said:

The allegations don’t have much to do with the show though. April, I believe, is one of the people who’ve claimed he was controlling, but it’s previous ex’s who initiated it.

Not sure anyone is suggesting they cancel the show, but perhaps at least something to highlight that it’s not normal or acceptable behaviour wouldn’t be the worst thing to do.

The fact he’s been arrested I believe generally means there’s more to it than just accusations. Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

He is insecure and that was there to see. He blamed his insecurity on the behaviour of his ex towards him.

Being arrested does not mean more than accusations. The accusations haven't been published from what I've seen and the police haven't heard enough to charge him.

Convicting him on tabloid press stories, an arrest, and MAFS is too premature.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th October 11:48

Don't think anyone's convicting him but he clearly showed controlling behaviour last week. Whilst his 'insecurity' initially seemed genuine, it's becoming more evident that it might by more jealousy than insecurity. The way he behaved after she kissed that girl on the honeymoon was a major overreaction. I get the impression he would ideally like his partner to live a life at home, away from anyone else where he can control who they see and what they do, and he achieves this through the guise of insecurity and guilt. Exactly how he's behaved with April.

That's about right Mike.

His insecurity is genuine, which is the reason *he* feels he needs to control, and he also weaponises it as a way to control. At least that's what is shown on the programme.

[Motoring12345]

80% of people on this show need therapy.