Married at first sight. C4

[Muzzer79]

RacerMike said:

Driver101 said:

RacerMike said:

The allegations don’t have much to do with the show though. April, I believe, is one of the people who’ve claimed he was controlling, but it’s previous ex’s who initiated it.

Not sure anyone is suggesting they cancel the show, but perhaps at least something to highlight that it’s not normal or acceptable behaviour wouldn’t be the worst thing to do.

The fact he’s been arrested I believe generally means there’s more to it than just accusations. Arresting someone needs some sort of solid evidence, so I’d suggest that it’s reasonably clear cut that he’s been proven to have acted in a coercive way in at least one previous relationship.

He is insecure and that was there to see. He blamed his insecurity on the behaviour of his ex towards him.

Being arrested does not mean more than accusations. The accusations haven't been published from what I've seen and the police haven't heard enough to charge him.

Convicting him on tabloid press stories, an arrest, and MAFS is too premature.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 4th October 11:48

Don't think anyone's convicting him but he clearly showed controlling behaviour last week. Whilst his 'insecurity' initially seemed genuine, it's becoming more evident that it might by more jealousy than insecurity. The way he behaved after she kissed that girl on the honeymoon was a major overreaction. I get the impression he would ideally like his partner to live a life at home, away from anyone else where he can control who they see and what they do, and he achieves this through the guise of insecurity and guilt. Exactly how he's behaved with April.

You need to realise that this show is edited in such a way as to make you believe the narrative that they want.

Someone behind the scenes of another reality show recently claimed that they have so much footage, from literally hours and hours each day of activity, that they can create literally whatever storyline they like with said footage. Affair? No problem. Grudges? No problem. Sexual tension? You get the idea.

His behaviour on the show demonstrates precisely nothing about what he is like in the real world. This is an entertainment show, not a documentary.

Again, if he is guilty of what he's been accused of, then he deserves everything he gets but making judgements off a reality TV show is madness.

[RacerMike]

Muzzer79 said:

You need to realise that this show is edited in such a way as to make you believe the narrative that they want.

Someone behind the scenes of another reality show recently claimed that they have so much footage, from literally hours and hours each day of activity, that they can create literally whatever storyline they like with said footage. Affair? No problem. Grudges? No problem. Sexual tension? You get the idea.

His behaviour on the show demonstrates precisely nothing about what he is like in the real world. This is an entertainment show, not a documentary.

Again, if he is guilty of what he's been accused of, then he deserves everything he gets but making judgements off a reality TV show is madness.

If you can’t see that comments (taken in any context) aren’t the kind of things you should say to someone are wrong then that’s your own perception of things. I don’t think they’ve done anything in the editing to make George look bad in anyway and if anything they’ve made efforts to suggest he’s been the victim in his previous relationships.

The reaction he’s had to April in a couple of situations has been out of order regardless of context and shows hints of controlling behaviour/gas lighting.

[Driver101]

RacerMike said:

If you can’t see that comments (taken in any context) aren’t the kind of things you should say to someone are wrong then that’s your own perception of things. I don’t think they’ve done anything in the editing to make George look bad in anyway and if anything they’ve made efforts to suggest he’s been the victim in his previous relationships.

The reaction he’s had to April in a couple of situations has been out of order regardless of context and shows hints of controlling behaviour/gas lighting.

I didn't see every episode so maybe I'm missing something.

His reaction to April kissing someone else wasn't that bad. If you are taking the process seriously, which I think he was and April wasn't, if your wife or husband kissed someone else then there is obviously going to be a reaction.

He was genuinely upset that he witnessed April kissing someone else. That is normal behaviour.

April made out it was a bet and was done for fun. April made George feel stupid for reacting normally to a situation.

I don't know about you, but I don't find myself randomly kissing strangers for fun or bets.

[Muzzer79]

RacerMike said:

Muzzer79 said:

You need to realise that this show is edited in such a way as to make you believe the narrative that they want.

Someone behind the scenes of another reality show recently claimed that they have so much footage, from literally hours and hours each day of activity, that they can create literally whatever storyline they like with said footage. Affair? No problem. Grudges? No problem. Sexual tension? You get the idea.

His behaviour on the show demonstrates precisely nothing about what he is like in the real world. This is an entertainment show, not a documentary.

Again, if he is guilty of what he's been accused of, then he deserves everything he gets but making judgements off a reality TV show is madness.

If you can’t see that comments (taken in any context) aren’t the kind of things you should say to someone are wrong then that’s your own perception of things. I don’t think they’ve done anything in the editing to make George look bad in anyway and if anything they’ve made efforts to suggest he’s been the victim in his previous relationships.

The reaction he’s had to April in a couple of situations has been out of order regardless of context and shows hints of controlling behaviour/gas lighting.

Its. An. Entertainment. Show.

To use a motoring analogy; It's like making a judgement on Mike Brewer's character from the way he behaves on Wheeler Dealers. He's not actually like that in real life you know.

The accusations against George may be proven correct in time. We may all be able to use elements of the show as back up of that. The way he has been portrayed isn't good. Some of the behaviour appears very worrying. But we should not make a judgement on the strength of the show alone.

I'll say again, if he's guilty - throw the book at him. But it never sits well with me that people are judge and jury before the defendant has even been charged with anything.

[shady lee]

Kev_Mk3 said:

Pound Land Naomi Campbell and Viking Shrek have made a utter mockery of what the programs about so of course they can stay to carry on for the views.

Post Malone from wish.....

[number2]

Not for discussion on this thread, but if anyone wants some similar ste to watch, check out Love is Blind on Netflix. People meet and chat but can't see eachother. They then have to choose a wife/husband. Minor twist on the usual.

Back on topic...

They're all mental. Some of what we see is not easy to see in a different context... George for example. I do hope they don't bow down to the noisy few, and keep the programme on air.

Shrek's Billy big balls act is grating now and poundland naomi's voice is the cherry on top of her unpleasant behaviour.

[Fermit]

Since filming finished Thomas has seemingly gone in to interplanetary space travel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTDUuBWGtpU

[simonrockman]

Yup

[Kev_Mk3]

I cant fathom how or why Tom works in supporting Mental health. He has so many red flags for it and he shows this over and over. Scary thought really.

[hurstg01]

As others have said, its a guilty pleasure - I can't stand Love Island, etc but the UK and moreso the Aussie version of this have me transfixed for each episode.

Love the Poundland Naomi Campbell nickname - she's a proper nutter, and what's with her calling Duka 'the kid'..!!??!! Matt, her new man aka Tattoo'd Shrek is a nasty piece of work, just his replies to Gemma were uncalled for and borderline bullying

April and George - he's been a proper dildo but he must have been really fked up by his previous relationships; she's just there for the exposure and for the eye candy [cant see others on there as pleasing to the eye as her, but its very slim pickings....]

Thomas and Adrian - what a nightmare Thomas is; very opinionated but wont listen to others who don't agree with him, a right primadonna. Adrian's ok, but too soft for Thomas

Kwame and Kasia - it all went very wrong when he wouldnt show her his home, whats up with that? Is he a secret millionaire?

Sophie and Jonathan should go the distance IMO, I think Jenna and Zoe will be OK

[R56Cooper]

hurstg01 said:

Kwame and Kasia - it all went very wrong when he wouldnt show her his home, whats up with that? Is he a secret millionaire?

Kwame just needs to admit that he simply doesn't fancy Kasia. He obviously didn't want a big girl and admitted as much in the conversation with her sisters!

[hurstg01]

R56Cooper said:

hurstg01 said:

Kwame and Kasia - it all went very wrong when he wouldnt show her his home, whats up with that? Is he a secret millionaire?

Kwame just needs to admit that he simply doesn't fancy Kasia. He obviously didn't want a big girl and admitted as much in the conversation with her sisters!

But why not show his home? Is he worried she'll turn up unannounced and raid his fridge?

[MesoForm]

hurstg01 said:

R56Cooper said:

hurstg01 said:

Kwame and Kasia - it all went very wrong when he wouldnt show her his home, whats up with that? Is he a secret millionaire?

Kwame just needs to admit that he simply doesn't fancy Kasia. He obviously didn't want a big girl and admitted as much in the conversation with her sisters!

But why not show his home? Is he worried she'll turn up unannounced and raid his fridge?

My guess it's something that doesn't fit in with the successful man image he's trying to portray - bedsit, shared house, lives with his mum in a high-rise, etc.

However a quick Google says he didn't want cameras showing his road/house for the sake of his kids
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1127...
"Because I wanted to protect the home my kids live in with me. But I made it clear to Kasia numerous times that I am happy to book an Uber while we were jamming and go to my yard privately, as in her and I, but not cameras showing my road, my living room, my bedroom – that’s too much of me. I also kept my kids off the show and all this was fully understood prior to filming by production and K, but that explanation didn’t make the edits."

I guess not telling us the real reason creates column inches and talk on message boards.

[hurstg01]

MesoForm said:

My guess it's something that doesn't fit in with the successful man image he's trying to portray - bedsit, shared house, lives with his mum in a high-rise, etc.

However a quick Google says he didn't want cameras showing his road/house for the sake of his kids
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1127...
"Because I wanted to protect the home my kids live in with me. But I made it clear to Kasia numerous times that I am happy to book an Uber while we were jamming and go to my yard privately, as in her and I, but not cameras showing my road, my living room, my bedroom – that’s too much of me. I also kept my kids off the show and all this was fully understood prior to filming by production and K, but that explanation didn’t make the edits."

I guess not telling us the real reason creates column inches and talk on message boards.

[R56Cooper]

hurstg01 said:

R56Cooper said:

hurstg01 said:

Kwame and Kasia - it all went very wrong when he wouldnt show her his home, whats up with that? Is he a secret millionaire?

Kwame just needs to admit that he simply doesn't fancy Kasia. He obviously didn't want a big girl and admitted as much in the conversation with her sisters!

But why not show his home? Is he worried she'll turn up unannounced and raid his fridge?

Lol, yeah I also thought that his reluctance to show "his wife" his home was very odd. I reckon he actually lives in a right st hole. Either that, or he's scared she'll be stalking him after the show.

Bit of a stupid move to go on the show as a private person!

[Kev_Mk3]

hurstg01 said:

April and George - he's been a proper dildo but he must have been really fked up by his previous relationships; she's just there for the exposure and for the eye candy [cant see others on there as pleasing to the eye as her, but its very slim pickings....]

More hes the nutter

https://www.capitalfm.com/news/tv-film/mafs-uk-sta...

[Driver101]

Kev_Mk3 said:

I cant fathom how or why Tom works in supporting Mental health. He has so many red flags for it and he shows this over and over. Scary thought really.

That would be the last job I would predict he would have.

MesoForm said:

My guess it's something that doesn't fit in with the successful man image he's trying to portray - bedsit, shared house, lives with his mum in a high-rise, etc.

However a quick Google says he didn't want cameras showing his road/house for the sake of his kids
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1127...
"Because I wanted to protect the home my kids live in with me. But I made it clear to Kasia numerous times that I am happy to book an Uber while we were jamming and go to my yard privately, as in her and I, but not cameras showing my road, my living room, my bedroom – that’s too much of me. I also kept my kids off the show and all this was fully understood prior to filming by production and K, but that explanation didn’t make the edits."

I guess not telling us the real reason creates column inches and talk on message boards.

Who has been looking after his kids all this time? He can't get anyone to look after them for a few days of the home stay?

I don't remember any other kids featuring on the show. Keeping your kids off camera is a reasonable request. Entering MAFS the home stay is a big part of the process. If they are taking the process seriously then seeing someone in their own home is vital.

I would be surprised if MAFS actually agreed to no home stay.

[Driver101]

Kasia didn't get to meet any of his family during the entire process even when he's really close to them?

I didn't think Kwame was in this for the real reasons from the start. The more I hear the more I'm convinced he has only been there to raise his profile.

I didn't believe the excuses about the home stay, but his family nowhere to be seen doesn't have much excuse.

[Driver101]

What did Zoe say about Matt's tattoo? We've rewound it a few times and it still makes no sense to us.

Thomas being a horrible person again. Mental health worker?

[number2]

I can't recall, but did you see the photo that poundshop beyonce gave Matt? Bloody hell it was like a cheap Instagram posed shot, really uncomfortable looking .

I thought the tattoo would be of her name at least...

George is a drama queen. Lays on the trust stuff so thick .