24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4

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CountyAFC

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4 months

Thursday 15th February
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Kamov said:
I'll go no comment from now on..
Always the best course...

Scrump

22,222 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th February
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Can anyone please explain why, in the last episode of to catch a copper, the Chief Constable was able to chair a hearing on gross misconduct and it was her decision as to the outcome; whilst in earlier episodes everything not going to court went to the IOPC and the chief constable had no say in the outcome (e.g. sex in the police car).

number2

4,347 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th February
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hairykrishna said:
The film was made by someone very sympathetic to "Stinson" to say the least.

I think the prosecution in Sam Miller's (i.e "Stinson Hunter") successful false imprisonment trial said it best; "The amateurs in this case, these defendants, cared as much, if not more, for self-publicity, notoriety and bullying others, as they did about stopping online offending.".
My bold. That is spot-on.


Kamov

249 posts

12 months

Thursday 15th February
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number2 said:
hairykrishna said:
The film was made by someone very sympathetic to "Stinson" to say the least.

I think the prosecution in Sam Miller's (i.e "Stinson Hunter") successful false imprisonment trial said it best; "The amateurs in this case, these defendants, cared as much, if not more, for self-publicity, notoriety and bullying others, as they did about stopping online offending.".
My bold. That is spot-on.
But if the outcome is they catch peado's in the act of being a peado, who cares if they are even doing it for likes or notoriety.
You could say the same for the police on any TV show, or any copper that wanted to catch one of the UK's many serial killers, they get fame and adulation and notoriety do they not?

Literally watching coppers chase down stolen cars and drunk drivers and talking to camera about it, not wildly different lust for notoriety is it?

Who cares so long as bad guys get caught......

And the clue as to the case, it was about false imprisonment, so i guess some peado argued that they held him in the house against his wishes.... the fact he was hoping to find some 13 year old in the house that he could abuse seems lost on the smug prosecutor's here....

Crazy who gets protection in these cases.....
But you lot crack on. If that puts you on some moral high ground then your welcome to that patch of hill...


EDIT TO ADD:
Just googled sam miller and you have the wrong bloke, that isn't Stintson Hunter...... so we aren't even talking about the same guy here..
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-ne...

Copper said
"While we recognise some Child Online Activist Groups are motivated by the desire to protect children, Sam Miller and James Moss had ulterior motives and set out to cause harm."

And some nicely worded stuff from here https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/online-child...

"Actions of the OCAG (online-child-abuse-activist-groups) member
OCAGs often film or live stream the confrontation of the suspect. It is likely that obtaining this footage is a reasonable line of enquiry as it may help build the case (e.g. it may include admissions made by the suspect) or may point away from a suspect’s guilt (e.g. show offences being committed by the OCAG). "



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Legacywr

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12,230 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th February
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You need to stop accusing people of aligning with pedophiles.

hairykrishna

13,185 posts

204 months

Thursday 15th February
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Kamov said:
But if the outcome is they catch peado's in the act of being a peado, who cares if they are even doing it for likes or notoriety.
You could say the same for the police on any TV show, or any copper that wanted to catch one of the UK's many serial killers, they get fame and adulation and notoriety do they not?

Literally watching coppers chase down stolen cars and drunk drivers and talking to camera about it, not wildly different lust for notoriety is it?

Who cares so long as bad guys get caught......

And the clue as to the case, it was about false imprisonment, so i guess some peado argued that they held him in the house against his wishes.... the fact he was hoping to find some 13 year old in the house that he could abuse seems lost on the smug prosecutor's here....

Crazy who gets protection in these cases.....
But you lot crack on, defending the rights of peado scum. If that puts you on some moral high ground then your welcome to that patch of hill...


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Just googled sam miller and you have the wrong bloke, that isn't Stintson Hunter...... so we aren't even talking about the same guy here...FFS the lengths people go to, to defend child abusers....

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-ne...

Copper said
"While we recognise some Child Online Activist Groups are motivated by the desire to protect children, Sam Miller and James Moss had ulterior motives and set out to cause harm."




Edited by Kamov on Thursday 15th February 18:51
Quite right, I mixed up my weird self promoting bell ends.

I just reported you for accusing me of defending child abusers. Hopefully you'll get a thread ban so we can go back to talking about telly.

Greendubber

13,251 posts

204 months

Thursday 15th February
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Kamov said:
hairykrishna said:
Quite right, I mixed up my weird self promoting bell ends.

I just reported you for accusing me of defending child abusers. Hopefully you'll get a thread ban so we can go back to talking about telly.
Did i? Did i name you? I don't even know your name unless your name is hairykrishna.... and anyway you are defending them from being caught out by a sting by a civilian, so its not an accusation its a fact...

"Ohh i reported you because you would like to see peado's killed or beaten..... what a nasty man..."

I'm going to join one of these online child abuse activist groups, thanks to this thread.... so if i get a ban from it so what...

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Edited by Kamov on Thursday 15th February 19:01
You really need to stop.

CoolHands

18,800 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th February
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Someone shut him up, for the love of god

Richtea1970

1,162 posts

61 months

Thursday 15th February
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Didn’t he say he wasn’t going to comment any more?

number2

4,347 posts

188 months

Friday 16th February
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He did say he was joining an online paediatrician hunting group.

This thread took a turn a while back, hopefully it'll get back to what it was. Although I'm not sure there are any new programs on the horizon.

helix402

7,896 posts

183 months

Friday 16th February
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number2 said:
He did say he was joining an online paediatrician hunting group.

This thread took a turn a while back, hopefully it'll get back to what it was. Although I'm not sure there are any new programs on the horizon.
Very good!

Deckert

608 posts

191 months

Friday 16th February
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number2 said:
He did say he was joining an online paediatrician hunting group.

This thread took a turn a while back, hopefully it'll get back to what it was. Although I'm not sure there are any new programs on the horizon.
Channel 5 - Killer at the Crime Scene.
It wasn't bad !

CountyAFC

739 posts

4 months

Friday 16th February
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He's started a Paedophile Hunter thread in the TV section.

number2

4,347 posts

188 months

Friday 16th February
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CountyAFC said:
He's started a Paedophile Hunter thread in the TV section.
At least it's self contained there. It's started off with an angry post, and it'll descend into a competition for who hates 'them' the most, and how far you'd go to exact your justice else you clearly side with them and need to take a good look at yourself.

Anyway I wouldn't recommend "Conviction: Murder in suburbia" or its "Murder at the station" counterpart. They're on Netflix but were BBC programmes so may well be on iPlayer.

An ex-journalist started a company which, on behalf of convicted criminals, re-opens their cases (in an unofficial capacity) to see if there are grounds for appeal.

The sleuthing was very amateur and I can only imagine it's worse than was actually screened. At one point she wanted the client (convict) to take a lie detector test...

It's funded through donations and they employ legal professionals so they take it seriously, it just didn't come across very professionally.


fourstardan

4,398 posts

145 months

Sunday 18th February
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Channel 5 at 10pm - Police suspect no 1

CountyAFC

739 posts

4 months

Sunday 18th February
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Was aired on Monday. Pretty dull.

Legacywr

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12,230 posts

189 months

Sunday 18th February
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CountyAFC said:
Was aired on Monday. Pretty dull.
Agreed.

Legacywr

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12,230 posts

189 months

Monday 19th February
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It’s the Irish surgeon tonight biggrin

LimmerickLad

1,055 posts

16 months

Monday 19th February
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Legacywr said:
It’s the Irish surgeon tonight biggrin
Repeat?

CountyAFC

739 posts

4 months

Monday 19th February
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Always worth a re-watch. Hubris personified. Threw his whole life down the toilet.