The Grand Tour

[IforB]

Gah. I had really enjoyed the series up to this point.

Well, the first couple of episodes weren't brilliant, but they weren't offensively bad in the way this last one was.

Luckily, they have shown that they can still do it with much of this series, but had they opened the series with that one, I suspect viewing figures would have been in the weeds.

Dreadful.

[frisbee]

DaveGrohl said:

Christ on a bike, there's some po faced miserable sods on here. It might not have been an absolute classic but watching Hammond fall off his bike and May get repeatedly soaked produced many chuckles around our telly. As for poking fun at the poor people of Mozambique? Are you people seriously so dumb? Did those people look malnourished to you? It's called a set up. Think about it, would you have gone to a place of genuine hunger and not leave some food behind after filming?

Series 2 has been more like it. The Jaaag episode was a belter in particular. Ouch, ouch, ouch. I had a squeeky bum watching them come down the piste. If you don't like it stop watching it, sod off and complain about something else.

Every time I laughed I hammered a nail into my leg to punish myself!

[Rich_W]

Dog Star said:

That was really really st - worse by a long way than even the India Special. I was looking forwards to it as well

The waste of fish - I’m like this about food waste in any form - really grated on me. The entire rest of it was just pants.

I'm not sure it was worse than the Indian special

What I would point out is that in the India episode Hamond wasted loads of food in a part of the world where food is not as plentiful as the west.

So I assume the simpering types on here with no awareness of food poverty around the world will claim that was "funny and get over it"

For those people "oilbethere" etc It's feeble to do that. Would you like it if a multi Millionaire turned up at your home and laughed for an hour at your life and everything you own as being crap and cheap and not as good as they had?

I'm sure we can arrange it.

Dog Star said:

Didn’t they look at the script or even the finished product and think
“Hmmmm, this is a bit wk, lets redo it”.

I don't think they do. I fear all the production team are "yes people" So there's no actual internal criticism of ideas. In a strange way, I suspect that where at the BBC TV people are relatively secure, out in the capitalist world of Amazon, upsetting those who manage you can result in you being let go. And results in more capitulation to those in charge.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

That was utter rubbish, and yes, worse than the India special. Zero effort on the story, buy three vehicles and drive down a mud road to deliver some fish. I bet Clarkson could have penned it whilst on the throne for 5 minutes.

[Leptons]

Genuinely don’t understand why some people don’t just fk off and watch something else. It’s Friday evening entertainment, there’s nothing more or nothing less to it.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Leptons said:

Genuinely don’t understand why some people don’t just fk off and watch something else. It’s Friday evening entertainment, there’s nothing more or nothing less to it.

OK, I'll try and answer this one. Firstly, someone watching it perpetually complaining how crap it is, agreed. This is why I stopped watching Enders some 7 years ago. I have watched all of TGT, and enjoyed more episodes than I disliked, same as series 1.

I entertained switching off last night, but thought I'd give it a chance.

Let's use a comparable. You have a favourite curry house, they're fairly consistent, sometimes slightly better than others. Then they serve you an under-cooked luke warm dish with gooey rice. Would you not be slightly narked? We have a right to be narked, we're paying for this crap.

[NDA]

suffolk009 said:

Doofus said:

suffolk009 said:

Yes it is. Moet was German.

Dutch, surely.

I just looked on the internet, and they do indeed say Dutch. I was going on a conversation I had years ago with a friend who is a Master of Wine. He told me German. He was probably drunk at the time.

In any event there are many far nicer Champagnes.

Yebbut, nobbut, yebbut.... The Dutch family were not called Moët. The name Moët was invented and given to LeClerc by the French. So it's a French name.

[Driver101]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Leptons said:

Genuinely don’t understand why some people don’t just fk off and watch something else. It’s Friday evening entertainment, there’s nothing more or nothing less to it.

OK, I'll try and answer this one. Firstly, someone watching it perpetually complaining how crap it is, agreed. This is why I stopped watching Enders some 7 years ago. I have watched all of TGT, and enjoyed more episodes than I disliked, same as series 1.

I entertained switching off last night, but thought I'd give it a chance.

Let's use a comparable. You have a favourite curry house, they're fairly consistent, sometimes slightly better than others. Then they serve you an under-cooked luke warm dish with gooey rice. Would you not be slightly narked? We have a right to be narked, we're paying for this crap.

Agreed. When it's a good episode generally the comments are positive.

I don't understand why a number of people are getting all sensitive when people are giving negative opinions when it was utter ste.

[Doofus]

Driver101 said:

I don't understand why a number of people are getting all sensitive when people are giving negative opinions when it was utter ste.

Because the people who liked the crap episodes think the rest of us are calling them stupid.

It's the converse of the question I have asked before: Why do the people who don't like an episode not get arsey with those that do?

Edited by Doofus on Saturday 17th February 11:09

[andy_s]

I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed most of the episodes, for light entertainment it's pretty good I reckon. Far worse things on TV.

[cjs racing.]

That was the worst thing CHM have ever made, as said earlier by a few, it was even worse than the India special.

I think it was made even worse due to the fact that the previous 3 episodes were some of the best yet.

[anonymous-user]

Really enjoyed it, proper laughs, really interesting as well, surprised at negative comments, guess you can't please everyone. Well done guys..

[stuartmmcfc]

Same old jokes but made me laugh out loud never the less.
It’s been said before but I guess I like programs that happen to have cars in them. Pure car programs bore the tits off me.

[anonymous-user]

Certainly wasn't their best road trip but raised a few chuckles on the way

Not as many as reading the snowflakes on here who thought it was a genuine aid convoy and that the village won't eat now because of it

[PhantomPH]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Agree - hardly up to the standard being set in recent episodes, but it was knockabout stuff. I read a few of the comments on here before I watched it and was expecting some hideous trolling of the 3rd world by 3 buffoons...like eating a McDonalds in front of a homeless person...but trust me when I say that the tone expressed here is largely bks.

It was never about the 'aid' trip and the story was not gratuitous in any way. If there is anything at all to complain about, it's that the same old tired scripted 'gags' were being trotted out yet again. Oh Hammond's thing fell apart and didn't work - guffaw. James May gets wet - giggle (although the first time seemed quite genuinely spontaneous and the reaction from C and H suggested it was a surprise to them as well).

Anyway, 6/10 from me. Watchable, but not a classic.

[LuS1fer]

NDA said:

Yebbut, nobbut, yebbut.... The Dutch family were not called Moët. The name Moët was invented and given to LeClerc by the French. So it's a French name.

The ultimate authority is Freddie Mercury in the first line of Killer Queen. End of...

[anonymous-user]

oilbethere said:

What's her plans on feeding the poor people of Mozambique then?

This episode fully took the piss out of people like your Mrs, the Beckhams and Bono.

The helicopter scene at the end summed it up rather nicely you are just too thick to understand it.

You are quite the charmer aren't you?

Numerous others have also pointed out that they disapproved of the pointless waste of food during the episode, so no, it isn't just my partner being 'thick' as you so politely put it.

Of course we got the joke about celebrities 'helping' Africa, namely because it was pointed out by Clarkson every five minutes during the episode via his 'Bono jokes'.

Myself and the Mrs have previously enjoyed all of Top Gear and the Specials, we have also enjoyed this second series of TGT, but this final episode was awful beyond belief apart from maybe a couple of laughs.

I'm not a moanet who complains about TGT. I have enjoyed most of it.

But there was very, very little to like about the last episode.

[audidoody]

Bingo - the forgotten poverty-stricken village cruelly-exploited by the capitalist racists of Grand Tour.

With a st load of luxury hotels about 30'ish miles away,.



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[anonymous-user]

That was dire.

[PhantomPH]

audidoody said:

Bingo - the forgotten poverty-stricken village cruelly-exploited by the capitalist racists of Grand Tour.

With a st load of luxury hotels about 30'ish miles away,.



"Bingo hotel deals

Luxury hotels (including 5 star hotels and 4 star hotels) and cheap Bingo hotels (with best discount rates and up-to-date hotel deals) are both available in separate lists. Always bear in mind that with Maplandia.com and Booking.com the best price is guaranteed!
Hotels nearest to the centre of Bingo
Masorini Bush Lodge *** (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 87 km)
La Lechere Guest House **** (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 89 km)
Sefapane Lodge **** (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 90 km)
Hans Merensky Hotel and Spa **** (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 90 km)
Sunbird Lodge *** (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 91 km)
Phalaborwa Country Manor (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 91 km)
Royal Game Guest House **** (in Phalaborwa, distanced approximately 91 km)
more Bingo hotels "

http://www.maplandia.com/mozambique/gaza/chicualac...

Whilst your point is fair, none of those distances given are less than 50 miles...not "30ish".

The whole scenario was a spoof. Perhaps the slightly bad taste is that it's not really PC to make light of abject poverty and starvation in general. However (and it's a big 'however') that's kind of what CHM have made their money on - being deliberately un-pc.