Guy Martin -The Great Escape!
Discussion
Robmarriott said:
It’s ok, they said ‘no homo’ beforehand.
Stay in a Nazi POW camp or take a risk which involves a little bit of nudity for your freedom, I can see why the choice would be tough.
Or join the Royal Marines and get naked a lot of the time anyway just to be on the safe side.Stay in a Nazi POW camp or take a risk which involves a little bit of nudity for your freedom, I can see why the choice would be tough.
Anyway, didn’t they say a lot of POWs really weren’t interested in escaping the the “duty” to escape Is frequently misquoted?
Sit out the war growing vegetables and indulging in a bit of am-dram or risk your life AGAIN by crawling naked through a tunnel 30 feet under loose soil, to go on the run and risk being shot as a spy in order to get back home and be shoehorned back in to the tail turret of a Lancaster.....
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 11th December 15:30
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 11th December 15:31
Its our Guy so it saved the day. Otherwise a bit desperate.
Cant think of anything more dumb that recreating the steve mcqueen jump he didn't even do somewhere near the spot it was filmed.
What struck me was what a jolly jape it all was being a pow. Camping it up all day ,sports and half naked posing about.
Was a tough existence...
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
Cant think of anything more dumb that recreating the steve mcqueen jump he didn't even do somewhere near the spot it was filmed.
What struck me was what a jolly jape it all was being a pow. Camping it up all day ,sports and half naked posing about.
Was a tough existence...
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
Fundoreen said:
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
If you’re referring to concentration camps then it’s a bit irrelevant as the activities therein were on a totally different level to PoW camps.The latter at least had some protection for the prisoners in the form of the Geneva Conventions and Red Cross.
Crossflow Kid said:
Fundoreen said:
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
If you’re referring to concentration camps then it’s a bit irrelevant as the activities therein were on a totally different level to PoW camps.The latter at least had some protection for the prisoners in the form of the Geneva Conventions and Red Cross.
So said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Fundoreen said:
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
If you’re referring to concentration camps then it’s a bit irrelevant as the activities therein were on a totally different level to PoW camps.The latter at least had some protection for the prisoners in the form of the Geneva Conventions and Red Cross.
Edited by CanAm on Friday 13th December 09:52
So said:
I read a while back that being a POW wasn't that bad a deal during WW2 and people didn't WANT to escape, despite it being their duty to try. A lot of them were studying degrees I believe.
By all accounts it wasn't their duty to try and escape.It's a myth.It was their duty to try and evade captureV8covin said:
So said:
I read a while back that being a POW wasn't that bad a deal during WW2 and people didn't WANT to escape, despite it being their duty to try. A lot of them were studying degrees I believe.
By all accounts it wasn't their duty to try and escape.It's a myth.It was their duty to try and evade captureI suppose when you think about it, if you're a 20 year old lad being fairly well treated in a POW camp, studying an OU degree, fairly confident of not being shot, you might be disinclined to try to escape. An attempt might result in being immediately shot, and a successful escape could mean returning to active duty and being shot.
I believe the officer camps were far more comfortable than the camps for enlisted men.
Also it depended on how much of a Nazi the camp commander was.
Plus no one knew the war would end in 1945. Maybe the idea of being stuck in a camp for ten years or decades was enough to make you want to escape.
Also it depended on how much of a Nazi the camp commander was.
Plus no one knew the war would end in 1945. Maybe the idea of being stuck in a camp for ten years or decades was enough to make you want to escape.
Fundoreen said:
Its our Guy so it saved the day. Otherwise a bit desperate.
Cant think of anything more dumb that recreating the steve mcqueen jump he didn't even do somewhere near the spot it was filmed.
What struck me was what a jolly jape it all was being a pow. Camping it up all day ,sports and half naked posing about.
Was a tough existence...
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
Yeah it must have been great living on little more than starvation rations when the Red Cross parcels stopped getting through .Cant think of anything more dumb that recreating the steve mcqueen jump he didn't even do somewhere near the spot it was filmed.
What struck me was what a jolly jape it all was being a pow. Camping it up all day ,sports and half naked posing about.
Was a tough existence...
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
I don’t suppose the inmates thought it was much of a “jolly jape” during the death march in the winter of 1945 when the inmates were made to march towards Germany to stop them being liberated by the Russians-many pow’s perished -some from the cold ,some from beatings or even being shot by the guards if they couldn’t keep up.
Crossflow Kid said:
Anyway, didn’t they say a lot of POWs really weren’t interested in escaping the the “duty” to escape Is frequently misquoted?
Sit out the war growing vegetables and indulging in a bit of am-dram or risk your life AGAIN by crawling naked through a tunnel 30 feet under loose soil, to go on the run and risk being shot as a spy in order to get back home and be shoehorned back in to the tail turret of a Lancaster.....
Those aircrew that did make a home run from a POW camp, were not returned to ops over enemy territory. Desk jobs or instructors etc was the standard practice.Sit out the war growing vegetables and indulging in a bit of am-dram or risk your life AGAIN by crawling naked through a tunnel 30 feet under loose soil, to go on the run and risk being shot as a spy in order to get back home and be shoehorned back in to the tail turret of a Lancaster.....
Same with any returned from internment in neutral countries, although I am aware of at least one USAAF B-24 pilot that crashed landed in Sweden, was repatriated, and the yanks returned him to ops from UK again, and he had to crash land in Sweden again......Sweden did release him the 2nd time though!
aeropilot said:
Those aircrew that did make a home run from a POW camp, were not returned to ops over enemy territory. Desk jobs or instructors etc was the standard practice.
Forgive my ignorance but why not a return to ops ? I'm probably answering my own question here but was it that the top brass were aware that home runners had been, to say the least, through some psychological trauma and it would be insensitive to thrust them back into the thick of the action again ?ZymoTech said:
aeropilot said:
Those aircrew that did make a home run from a POW camp, were not returned to ops over enemy territory. Desk jobs or instructors etc was the standard practice.
Forgive my ignorance but why not a return to ops ? I'm probably answering my own question here but was it that the top brass were aware that home runners had been, to say the least, through some psychological trauma and it would be insensitive to thrust them back into the thick of the action again ?and31 said:
Fundoreen said:
Its our Guy so it saved the day. Otherwise a bit desperate.
Cant think of anything more dumb that recreating the steve mcqueen jump he didn't even do somewhere near the spot it was filmed.
What struck me was what a jolly jape it all was being a pow. Camping it up all day ,sports and half naked posing about.
Was a tough existence...
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
Yeah it must have been great living on little more than starvation rations when the Red Cross parcels stopped getting through .Cant think of anything more dumb that recreating the steve mcqueen jump he didn't even do somewhere near the spot it was filmed.
What struck me was what a jolly jape it all was being a pow. Camping it up all day ,sports and half naked posing about.
Was a tough existence...
All a bit of a slap in the face to those in camps being murdered really. I dont think it would play that well to that crowd.
I don’t suppose the inmates thought it was much of a “jolly jape” during the death march in the winter of 1945 when the inmates were made to march towards Germany to stop them being liberated by the Russians-many pow’s perished -some from the cold ,some from beatings or even being shot by the guards if they couldn’t keep up.
Halmyre said:
Nothing I've ever read suggests that the camps were anything but hardship, particularly towards the end of the war. Suggestions of POWs sitting out a cushy number are a bit insulting.
It was mentioned in this programme that not all POWs were 100% up for escaping.Their attitude was "been shot down once, survived the crash and destruction of my plane ,prefer not to go through that again"
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