Biggest plot holes in films (spoilers)
Discussion
Antony Moxey said:
robemcdonald said:
Don’t get me started on Bond....
In one of the films doesn't he drive on two wheels to get through a narrow gap yet when he comes out the other side the car's up on the other two wheels?
Ayahuasca said:
Another Star Wars one - why are lasers fired by Memphis Belle style human aimed turrets and not computers that would never miss?
I suppose the real answer is it's fun and George based it on WW2 fights. The in-universe answer is that AI exists (for practical purposes) and it has formed/evolved/been created in some droids, but not all. Anything that requires skill specificity or intelligence is a droid, which can act as humans, ships are all devoid of that, something to do with the robot wars and the distrust of droids, or droids simply make clever gadgets obsolete?What you type reminds though of a friend pointing that out in ALien (or ALiens) when they have to do some docking (and it's countig down the distance) and my mate was all, "why is a human doing it as opposed to automated?" ALiens has droids too, but even so, making sure a human is the top of chain in everything isn't that unusual to me, in fact as AI happens, I can see the ultimate failsafe/COC being a real living human rather than having trust in automation or droids.
Halb said:
Ayahuasca said:
Another Star Wars one - why are lasers fired by Memphis Belle style human aimed turrets and not computers that would never miss?
I suppose the real answer is it's fun and George based it on WW2 fights. The in-universe answer is that AI exists (for practical purposes) and it has formed/evolved/been created in some droids, but not all. Anything that requires skill specificity or intelligence is a droid, which can act as humans, ships are all devoid of that, something to do with the robot wars and the distrust of droids, or droids make clever gadgets obsolete?What you type reminds though of a friend pointing that out in ALien (or ALiens) when they have to do some docking (and it's countig down the distance) and my mate was all, "why is a human doing it as opposed to automated?" ALiens has droids too, but even so, making sure a human is the top of chain in everything isn't that unusual to me, in fact as AI happens, I can see the ultimate failsafe/COC being a real living human rather than having trust in automation or droids.
In Star Wars the X-wings, at least, use targeting computers.
Halmyre said:
In the first part of 2001 all the docking manouevres involving the space plane and the moon shuttle appear to be automated.
In Star Wars the X-wings, at least, use targeting computers.
I don't know, but in 2001, HAL is unusual isn't he? He's the 2nd AI/supercomputer? The first to be put in charge?In Star Wars the X-wings, at least, use targeting computers.
IN Star Wars the targeting computer is s
t and fails, a human makes the hit. I'd sack the contractor! 
edit to add
I think in 2001 as AI becomes operational/common, the issue of having a human in charge wasn't really thought of, as they hadn't heard of Terminators.
Halb said:
Halmyre said:
In the first part of 2001 all the docking manouevres involving the space plane and the moon shuttle appear to be automated.
In Star Wars the X-wings, at least, use targeting computers.
I don't know, but in 2001, HAL is unusual isn't he? He's the 2nd AI/supercomputer? The first to be put in charge?In Star Wars the X-wings, at least, use targeting computers.
Halmyre said:
The docking system wouldn't necessarily need to be AI, just 'dumb' computers (although when 2001 was made a computer was probably the size of a house).
Makes sense, running the full gamut from casio calculator to super AI. All comes down to cost/availability I guess, like anything.Halb said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Star Wars Ep IV...
During the opening battle, when C3PO and R2D2 do a runner, the Star Destroyer crew spot their escape pod and comment:
“There goes another one” implying several are jettisoned during the seizure of the rebel ship.
Couple of scenes later, Vader is briefed “During the battle, an escape pod was jettisoned”
How/why was the one the two droids were aboard singled out?
weird for droids to use an escape pod? THey don't seem to be treated like living creatures, I thought the earlier ones had people on them trying to get away from the Empire.During the opening battle, when C3PO and R2D2 do a runner, the Star Destroyer crew spot their escape pod and comment:
“There goes another one” implying several are jettisoned during the seizure of the rebel ship.
Couple of scenes later, Vader is briefed “During the battle, an escape pod was jettisoned”
How/why was the one the two droids were aboard singled out?
Fair play, that actually makes total sense now you spell it out. Just not very clear in the film.
Halb said:
Ayahuasca said:
Another Star Wars one - why are lasers fired by Memphis Belle style human aimed turrets and not computers that would never miss?
I suppose the real answer is it's fun and George based it on WW2 fights. The in-universe answer is that AI exists (for practical purposes) and it has formed/evolved/been created in some droids, but not all. Anything that requires skill specificity or intelligence is a droid, which can act as humans, ships are all devoid of that, something to do with the robot wars and the distrust of droids, or droids simply make clever gadgets obsolete?What you type reminds though of a friend pointing that out in ALien (or ALiens) when they have to do some docking (and it's countig down the distance) and my mate was all, "why is a human doing it as opposed to automated?" ALiens has droids too, but even so, making sure a human is the top of chain in everything isn't that unusual to me, in fact as AI happens, I can see the ultimate failsafe/COC being a real living human rather than having trust in automation or droids.
Flumpo said:
Covered by many before, but the fact Jeff goldblums Apple laptop is so easy to connect to the alien computers. Independence Day.
Also, seemed to have very long battery life.
Although I’m not sure if this is actually a plot hole as opposed to just being unbelievable.
Where do you think Jobs got the Apple tech from in the first place?Also, seemed to have very long battery life.
Although I’m not sure if this is actually a plot hole as opposed to just being unbelievable.
Explains why Apple products are so difficult to interface with other stuff.
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