BBC to Reveal Stars Earnings

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DoctorX

7,332 posts

169 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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pquinn said:
cqueen said:
I don't understand the Gary Linekar salary. He WAS a footballer, he aint anymore - so why pay him a footballers salary? Esp when any basic presenter could do the same.

Does the public even care who hosts MOTD? As a football fan, I sure don't..
But if they don't pay him that he'd go work for someone else,and have to find someone who could replace him.

Except the first bit just isn't going to happen and the second bit is trivial. His salary is a joke.
He does work for someone else, doesn’t he appear on BT too? Topping up his BBC salary hehe

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

255 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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El stovey said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
I fully agree but they defend the pay by saying they need to retain the so called talent. We all know it's a load of st there will be hundreds of people who could do the job better out there.
So why do you think the BBC doesn’t want to pay less and get people that “could do the job better”

Seems odd that they’re paying more than they need to for worse presenters?
Simply because the people on the remuneration committees are all overpaid as well.

They need to able to say "of course I'm worth my £300k a year. I'm Gary Lineker's boss and he's on £1.75m!!!"

It's all back-scratching, and the money doesn't belong to any of them. Happens everywhere, but at the BBC there should be much, much better control as they're all essentially civil servants.


Digga

40,463 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Simply because the people on the remuneration committees are all overpaid as well.

They need to able to say "of course I'm worth my £300k a year. I'm Gary Lineker's boss and he's on £1.75m!!!"

It's all back-scratching, and the money doesn't belong to any of them. Happens everywhere, but at the BBC there should be much, much better control as they're all essentially civil servants.
^This every time. It is rife, not only at the BBC, and the public sector in general, but also in many remuneration committees on the FTSE.

Much easier to justify your own pay increase when you've facilitated hikes in other people's earnings. OPM is a dangerous thing. Fiduciary duties are frequently overlooked.

pquinn

7,167 posts

48 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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DoctorX said:
pquinn said:
cqueen said:
I don't understand the Gary Linekar salary. He WAS a footballer, he aint anymore - so why pay him a footballers salary? Esp when any basic presenter could do the same.

Does the public even care who hosts MOTD? As a football fan, I sure don't..
But if they don't pay him that he'd go work for someone else,and have to find someone who could replace him.

Except the first bit just isn't going to happen and the second bit is trivial. His salary is a joke.
He does work for someone else, doesn’t he appear on BT too? Topping up his BBC salary hehe
Don't forget the little bit of work he does on the side selling crisps for Pepsico. Though after trying for at least 12 years they're now actually getting around to binning him off (apparently).

Gompo

4,430 posts

260 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Surely something is not quite right with that list; while I don't like listening to them at all I'm surprised Scott Mills, Greg James, Nick Grimshaw and maybe even Trevor Nelson aren't on there? Zoe Ball is a very annoying listen.

abzmike

8,564 posts

108 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Mojooo said:
Isn't Graham Norton actually the highest paid - its just that some of the money goes to his company?
I think a lot of 'stars' are paid through production companies and BBC Worldwide. The people on this list are salaried staffers.

Countdown

40,193 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Simply because the people on the remuneration committees are all overpaid as well.

They need to able to say "of course I'm worth my £300k a year. I'm Gary Lineker's boss and he's on £1.75m!!!"

It's all back-scratching, and the money doesn't belong to any of them. Happens everywhere, but at the BBC there should be much, much better control as they're all essentially civil servants.
That's not how Remuneration Committees work, plus it won't have been the RemCom that set GL's salary/fee.

Stan the Bat

8,981 posts

214 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Gary29 said:
abzmike said:
Quite - that number next to her name just boggles the mind
Is it one of those where she has her own production company and she produces the show out of her own pocket? It does seem a high number.

Isn't Jeremy Vine usually in the top 10? No mention of him in the list.
Strange there's no mention, must have a 'plan'.

Not-The-Messiah

3,622 posts

83 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Digga said:
SpeckledJim said:
Simply because the people on the remuneration committees are all overpaid as well.

They need to able to say "of course I'm worth my £300k a year. I'm Gary Lineker's boss and he's on £1.75m!!!"

It's all back-scratching, and the money doesn't belong to any of them. Happens everywhere, but at the BBC there should be much, much better control as they're all essentially civil servants.
^This every time. It is rife, not only at the BBC, and the public sector in general, but also in many remuneration committees on the FTSE.

Much easier to justify your own pay increase when you've facilitated hikes in other people's earnings. OPM is a dangerous thing. Fiduciary duties are frequently overlooked.
Was going to say exactly the same, it's a sort of pissing contest, it's not their money and they will feel all powerful and important being able to agree such things.

Mikebentley

6,206 posts

142 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Jeremy Vine is on everything now, plus his Ch5 stuff. I’m sure him and Norton earn theirs through production companies now.

I think Jeremy Vine is the thickest journalist I have ever heard. His interviews on Radio 2 are beyond useless as he doesn’t listen to what is being said to him.

williamp

19,293 posts

275 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Mikebentley said:
Jeremy Vine is on everything now, plus his Ch5 stuff. I’m sure him and Norton earn theirs through production companies now.

I think Jeremy Vine is the thickest journalist I have ever heard. His interviews on Radio 2 are beyond useless as he doesn’t listen to what is being said to him.
Companies house as Jelly Vine. Must be a contractor these days. Tax effecient, you see

mikebradford

2,549 posts

147 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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cqueen said:
I don't understand the Gary Linekar salary. He WAS a footballer, he aint anymore - so why pay him a footballers salary? Esp when any basic presenter could do the same.

Does the public even care who hosts MOTD? As a football fan, I sure don't..
I agree
And the fact Alan Shearer is on a quarter of the salary indicates to me theirs likely plenty of recognisable retired footballers willing to do the show for less than Linekars salary.


Countdown

40,193 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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mikebradford said:
cqueen said:
I don't understand the Gary Linekar salary. He WAS a footballer, he aint anymore - so why pay him a footballers salary? Esp when any basic presenter could do the same.

Does the public even care who hosts MOTD? As a football fan, I sure don't..
I agree
And the fact Alan Shearer is on a quarter of the salary indicates to me theirs likely plenty of recognisable retired footballers willing to do the show for less than Linekars salary.
I'm guessing GL and AS are employed for the same reason that Sky has a panel of ex-Footballers. It would make sense for those reviewing the game to have had first-hand experience of playing it.

bristolracer

5,561 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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I cannot fathom how any of these presenters are worth the salaries they are paid.


ninepoint2

3,336 posts

162 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Scotty2 said:
I don't think Zoe Ball is worth anything like that either!
Not even quarter of that...

Skyedriver

18,013 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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bristolracer said:
I cannot fathom how any of these presenters are worth the salaries they are paid.

But WE continue to pay these people through the TV licence!

Algarve

2,102 posts

83 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Skyedriver said:
But WE continue to pay these people through the TV licence!
Nobody is forcing you. You could cancel and send them an email telling them why.

ATG

20,735 posts

274 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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bristolracer said:
I cannot fathom how any of these presenters are worth the salaries they are paid.

They are their own brands and the BBC are paying for that. People follow these presenters. The BBC keeps its audience share by employing these individuals. If they move to another "content producer (dahlings)" the BBC will lose viewers. How much is that worth? A few hundred thousand each? By any commercial production company's reckoning, that's not a difficult decision.

williamp

19,293 posts

275 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Im not sure thats true. These are presenters, pundits etc. Will people really follow them if they move??

waynecyclist

9,022 posts

116 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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How is Zoe Ball worth that also would love know how much the top gear trio get paid.